It takes time, money and (most important) - responsibility. They do not want to be responsible for the important things.
Maybe they are afraid of responsibility? Maybe they lack some knowlidge?
andrey Wrote:It takes time, money and (most important) - responsibility. They do not want to be responsible for the important things.
Maybe they are afraid of responsibility? Maybe they lack some knowlidge?
Yes. You need education, money and a working team to rule any International Unit. Not everybody can do it!
Evaluating high WFF Pro level, USA organizers have sent a preposal to WFF-International:
Dear Edmundas,
I need the promoters name and contact info for each show. Any WFF athlete that places top three in any of your WFF shows will be accepted as a WPI Pro by purchasing their WPI membership card on line and compete in my first pro show May 17th and 18th at the Orleans hotel in Las Vegas. Any ametuer WFF athlete can compete Friday night on the 17th in the pro qualifier show.
Craig Titus
edmundas daubaras Wrote:Evaluating high WFF Pro level, USA organizers have sent a preposal to WFF-International:
Dear Edmundas,
I need the promoters name and contact info for each show. Any WFF athlete that places top three in any of your WFF shows will be accepted as a WPI Pro by purchasing their WPI membership card on line and compete in my first pro show May 17th and 18th at the Orleans hotel in Las Vegas. Any ametuer WFF athlete can compete Friday night on the 17th in the pro qualifier show.
Craig Titus
USA comes to Europe with the friendly offer!
rob Wrote:edmundas daubaras Wrote:Evaluating high WFF Pro level, USA organizers have sent a preposal to WFF-International:
Dear Edmundas,
I need the promoters name and contact info for each show. Any WFF athlete that places top three in any of your WFF shows will be accepted as a WPI Pro by purchasing their WPI membership card on line and compete in my first pro show May 17th and 18th at the Orleans hotel in Las Vegas. Any ametuer WFF athlete can compete Friday night on the 17th in the pro qualifier show.
Craig Titus
USA comes to Europe with the friendly offer!
Offer is offer. Let us wait and see.
WFF-International is a Social International non profit Organization, working according the law. It is registered and it is real (many "groups of friends" call themselves "organization", but they are only a group of private persons. Just friends, like NABBA-International of Ivan Dunbar or fitness of Klaus Hoffmann). They do not egzist in real life.
It is good if anybody wants to coopertate. But what law status you represent - a private firm, a private person or a social organization?
This is very important. This matters on what level the International cooperation will be set.
edmundas daubaras Wrote:WFF-International is a Social International non profit Organization, working according the law. It is registered and it is real (many "groups of friends" call themselves "organization", but they are only a group of private persons. Just friends, like NABBA-International of Ivan Dunbar or fitness of Klaus Hoffmann). They do not egzist in real life.
It is good if anybody wants to coopertate. But what law status you represent - a private firm, a private person or a social organization?
This is very important. This matters on what level the International cooperation will be set.
Interesting!
OFFICIAL WARNING!!!
A few days ago a few Lithuanians returned from Klaus Hoffmann "village" contests in Germany. They have written in Lithuanian press about the false (fake) WFF federation of Klaus Hoffmann.
WFF-International (official one, that is registered in Lithuania) is going to the Court of Lithuania to stop these games of Klaus Hoffmann. He can play the games in Germany for some time but not in our countries. This is the official letter of WFF-International sent to the all press representatives in Lithuania:
Any can speak a lot about "great" "international" federations. But when it goes to the official level - it is evident that there are NO FEDERATIONS at all. So called "federations" and "associations" have no registration. They are only a few private persons.
timoxa Wrote:Any can speak a lot about "great" "international" federations. But when it goes to the official level - it is evident that there are NO FEDERATIONS at all. So called "federations" and "associations" have no registration. They are only a few private persons.
But nobody cares about it for years.
tony Wrote:timoxa Wrote:Any can speak a lot about "great" "international" federations. But when it goes to the official level - it is evident that there are NO FEDERATIONS at all. So called "federations" and "associations" have no registration. They are only a few private persons.
But nobody cares about it for years.
When you make illegal and undergrioung contest - it does not matter. But it matter when you deal with press, government or municipal officials. It matters when you deal with sponsors.
timoxa Wrote:tony Wrote:timoxa Wrote:Any can speak a lot about "great" "international" federations. But when it goes to the official level - it is evident that there are NO FEDERATIONS at all. So called "federations" and "associations" have no registration. They are only a few private persons.
But nobody cares about it for years.
When you make illegal and undergrioung contest - it does not matter. But it matter when you deal with press, government or municipal officials. It matters when you deal with sponsors.
You are right.
A letter reeceived from the South America:
Dear Edmundas,
How are you? We hope you are doing fine. Perhaps now you will be able to rest a little after the big effort required for the world contests of Lithuania and Russia.
We also wanted to thank you for your help and assistance during the Championship. We should have written last week, but we were working hard organizing the final Contests of this year, especially the one known as Argentinean Championship.
This is the most important championship of the year, at least for most athletes. As you can imagine a lot of things had to be taken care of or to be taken into account and all of them at last moment.
Edmundas, we are considering the possibility of attending next year WFF World Championship, with more athletes not only from Argentina, but also from other countries (Uruguay, Brazil, etc.). We wanted to know if there is any chance of going by ourselves as individuals representing our countries; or representing our own Federation and countries, or we must necessary go by the means or terms of the other federation and under the organization of Mr. Cedale.
Last week during a contest held at the other Federation, we heard that he has been recognized as the representative and president of WFF International for all South American countries.
Our best regards.
We hope to hear from you soon.
Pedro A. ______________________________
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edmundas daubaras Wrote:A letter reeceived from the South America:
Dear Edmundas,
How are you? We hope you are doing fine. Perhaps now you will be able to rest a little after the big effort required for the world contests of Lithuania and Russia.
We also wanted to thank you for your help and assistance during the Championship. We should have written last week, but we were working hard organizing the final Contests of this year, especially the one known as Argentinean Championship.
This is the most important championship of the year, at least for most athletes. As you can imagine a lot of things had to be taken care of or to be taken into account and all of them at last moment.
Edmundas, we are considering the possibility of attending next year WFF World Championship, with more athletes not only from Argentina, but also from other countries (Uruguay, Brazil, etc.). We wanted to know if there is any chance of going by ourselves as individuals representing our countries; or representing our own Federation and countries, or we must necessary go by the means or terms of the other federation and under the organization of Mr. Cedale.
Last week during a contest held at the other Federation, we heard that he has been recognized as the representative and president of WFF International for all South American countries.
Our best regards.
We hope to hear from you soon.
Pedro A. ______________________________
Visita http://www.tutopia.com y comienza a navegar más rápido en Internet. Tutopia es Internet para todos.
it is fine!
WFF-International headquarters received a letter from Ireland:
Edmundas,
My name is Damien Robson. I am setting up my own federation here in Ireland and i am seeking other federations to team up with.I have an aspiration of staging an "All Federations World Championship" in the near future and i need to get most federations to team up with me to make this happen. So far i have excellent feedback from everyone i have contacted.The WFF being one of if not "the biggest" federation in Europe, makes it vitally important to have you work with us to make it happen.By staging an all federations championships would make it the biggest event in europe, having all federations comming together once each year to battle it out onstage for the biggest title in Europe and beyond.
Any feedback would be warmly welcomed.
Yours Sincerely
Damien Robson
By law WFF-International is the officially registered social non profit international sport organization.
There is not enough information to start cooperation.
This is our question to the nice initiatives of Ireland by now:
Dear Sir,
WFF-International is in close contact with over 60 countries. WFF works on International level successfuly.
Will you answer a question, please:
1.What official status has your created organization? Is it a registered public international organization or a private firm or just nothing (as NABBA-International of Ivan Dunbar)?
Yours faithfuly,
Edmundas Daubaras
edmundas daubaras Wrote:By law WFF-International is the officially registered social non profit international sport organization.
There is not enough information to start cooperation.
This is our question to the nice initiatives of Ireland by now:
Dear Sir,
WFF-International is in close contact with over 60 countries. WFF works on International level successfuly.
Will you answer a question, please:
1.What official status has your created organization? Is it a registered public international organization or a private firm or just nothing (as NABBA-International of Ivan Dunbar)?
Yours faithfuly,
Edmundas Daubaras
Playing international games is only playing. Working seriously means offcial documents and registration.
What are you - this is the question.
takas Wrote:edmundas daubaras Wrote:By law WFF-International is the officially registered social non profit international sport organization.
There is not enough information to start cooperation.
This is our question to the nice initiatives of Ireland by now:
Dear Sir,
WFF-International is in close contact with over 60 countries. WFF works on International level successfuly.
Will you answer a question, please:
1.What official status has your created organization? Is it a registered public international organization or a private firm or just nothing (as NABBA-International of Ivan Dunbar)?
Yours faithfuly,
Edmundas Daubaras
Playing international games is only playing. Working seriously means offcial documents and registration.
What are you - this is the question.
Without the official registration of an organization (federation), especialy international one, all nice work is worthless. It is done just for fun!
vika Wrote:takas Wrote:edmundas daubaras Wrote:By law WFF-International is the officially registered social non profit international sport organization.
There is not enough information to start cooperation.
This is our question to the nice initiatives of Ireland by now:
Dear Sir,
WFF-International is in close contact with over 60 countries. WFF works on International level successfuly.
Will you answer a question, please:
1.What official status has your created organization? Is it a registered public international organization or a private firm or just nothing (as NABBA-International of Ivan Dunbar)?
Yours faithfuly,
Edmundas Daubaras
Playing international games is only playing. Working seriously means offcial documents and registration.
What are you - this is the question.
Without the official registration of an organization (federation), especialy international one, all nice work is worthless. It is done just for fun!
Evident!
abbey Wrote:vika Wrote:takas Wrote:edmundas daubaras Wrote:By law WFF-International is the officially registered social non profit international sport organization.
There is not enough information to start cooperation.
This is our question to the nice initiatives of Ireland by now:
Dear Sir,
WFF-International is in close contact with over 60 countries. WFF works on International level successfuly.
Will you answer a question, please:
1.What official status has your created organization? Is it a registered public international organization or a private firm or just nothing (as NABBA-International of Ivan Dunbar)?
Yours faithfuly,
Edmundas Daubaras
Playing international games is only playing. Working seriously means offcial documents and registration.
What are you - this is the question.
Without the official registration of an organization (federation), especialy international one, all nice work is worthless. It is done just for fun!
Evident!
Our friend from Ireland is welcomed to the 2006 WFF-International seminar in Latvia:
I know these organisations are very tight and run by strict politics.Ive encountered this first hand as a competitor.I would like to get a committee with all (most) federations presidents forming one body with the soul aim of joining together once each year for the all federations world championships, and discuss the future of bodybuilding in Europe.If we can achieve this, and the afore mentioned federations get left out of this, it wont be long before they come knocking on our door.
I think i can make it to your seminar, although ill have to check my calendar before confirming.
Thanks again
Damien Robson
No matter that so many so called "International federations" are not registered and they are not real.
But for many countries being a member of the officilaly registered organization means sponsorship and other awards in their countries.
This is a letter from Ukraine.
Representing unofficial organization Klaus Hoffmann can not make even official invitations to Germany for Ukraine sportsmen.
But the official WFF can do such things and a lot more.
Representing the official WFF Ukraine athletes after participating in 2005 WFF World Championship in Vilnius received State awards and sponsorship in Ukraine:
Здравствуйте Едмундас.
Обращается к вам Виктор Мацикур, я был
представителем Украины на конгрессе в Паланге в этом году. В Вильнюсе я участвовал в Чемпионате мира вместе с своей женой. Хочу попросить Вас сбросить на факс документы (протоколы) подтверждающие наше выступление для получения МСМК Украины.
Интересует второе и третье места, которые позволяют получить МСМК
Украины.
Заранее спасибо за помощь, также за организацию Чемпионата, лично для себя вижу перспективу именно в ВФФ, поэтому буду серьезно готовится на мир в Турции. Всегда с интересом читаю форум на сайте ВФФ, уже дважды регистрировался, но с этим возникают неполадки.
С уважением, Виктор.
edmundas daubaras Wrote:No matter that so many so called "International federations" are not registered and they are not real.
But for many countries being a member of the officilaly registered organization means sponsorship and other awards in their countries.
This is a letter from Ukraine.
Representing unofficial organization Klaus Hoffmann can not make even official invitations to Germany for Ukraine sportsmen.
But the official WFF can do such things and a lot more.
Representing the official WFF Ukraine athletes after participating in 2005 WFF World Championship in Vilnius received State awards and sponsorship in Ukraine:
Здравствуйте Едмундас.
Обращается к вам Виктор Мацикур, я был
представителем Украины на конгрессе в Паланге в этом году. В Вильнюсе я участвовал в Чемпионате мира вместе с своей женой. Хочу попросить Вас сбросить на факс документы (протоколы) подтверждающие наше выступление для получения МСМК Украины.
Интересует второе и третье места, которые позволяют получить МСМК
Украины.
Заранее спасибо за помощь, также за организацию Чемпионата, лично для себя вижу перспективу именно в ВФФ, поэтому буду серьезно готовится на мир в Турции. Всегда с интересом читаю форум на сайте ВФФ, уже дважды регистрировался, но с этим возникают неполадки.
С уважением, Виктор.
Nothing to add!
I do not know any other federation which works so serious!
WFF-International stand on the very official position.
It is good.
joel Wrote:I do not know any other federation which works so serious!
WFF-International stand on the very official position.
It is good.
During the last years WFF-International did a tremendous work.
edmundas daubaras Wrote:OFFICIAL WARNING!!!
A few days ago a few Lithuanians returned from Klaus Hoffmann "village" contests in Germany. They have written in Lithuanian press about the false (fake) WFF federation of Klaus Hoffmann.
WFF-International (official one, that is registered in Lithuania) is going to the Court of Lithuania to stop these games of Klaus Hoffmann. He can play the games in Germany for some time but not in our countries. This is the official letter of WFF-International sent to the all press representatives in Lithuania:
Speaking with such false man as Klaus Hoffmann with his "federations" and "associations" first question must be - what are you and what you represent???
GIVE THE REGISTRATION!
And you will see that there is NOTHING!
vika Wrote:edmundas daubaras Wrote:OFFICIAL WARNING!!!
A few days ago a few Lithuanians returned from Klaus Hoffmann "village" contests in Germany. They have written in Lithuanian press about the false (fake) WFF federation of Klaus Hoffmann.
WFF-International (official one, that is registered in Lithuania) is going to the Court of Lithuania to stop these games of Klaus Hoffmann. He can play the games in Germany for some time but not in our countries. This is the official letter of WFF-International sent to the all press representatives in Lithuania:
Speaking with such false man as Klaus Hoffmann with his "federations" and "associations" first question must be - what are you and what you represent???
GIVE THE REGISTRATION!
And you will see that there is NOTHING!
Nobody ever thought about it. It seems he does everything correct. And finaly - just zero. Zero federation!
takas Wrote:edmundas daubaras Wrote:By law WFF-International is the officially registered social non profit international sport organization.
There is not enough information to start cooperation.
This is our question to the nice initiatives of Ireland by now:
Dear Sir,
WFF-International is in close contact with over 60 countries. WFF works on International level successfuly.
Will you answer a question, please:
1.What official status has your created organization? Is it a registered public international organization or a private firm or just nothing (as NABBA-International of Ivan Dunbar)?
Yours faithfuly,
Edmundas Daubaras
Playing international games is only playing. Working seriously means offcial documents and registration.
What are you - this is the question.
Some time ago the organizer of "America Pageant", "Musclemania" and some other famous contests Mr. Louis Zwick called me from USA and we have spoken on the matter of the officiality.
I know Mr.Louis Zwick nearly 20 years and all this period we were in friendly contact.
He sayed to me that WFF looks upon the officiality very serious. In USA these things go more easy. One has his own business ant it goes well.
Yes, I agree. But when it goes to deal with the Governments, Parliaments, Municipal Governments, official National and International organizations - then the officiality does matter.
It is not possible to be on the respectable level and be unregistered. At least it should be as your private business (like IFBB, WABBA or NABBA-International of Mr.Joe Lopez).
This is the position of the official (not fake) WFF-International. And WFF-International does everything from this position.
edmundas daubaras Wrote:takas Wrote:edmundas daubaras Wrote:By law WFF-International is the officially registered social non profit international sport organization.
There is not enough information to start cooperation.
This is our question to the nice initiatives of Ireland by now:
Dear Sir,
WFF-International is in close contact with over 60 countries. WFF works on International level successfuly.
Will you answer a question, please:
1.What official status has your created organization? Is it a registered public international organization or a private firm or just nothing (as NABBA-International of Ivan Dunbar)?
Yours faithfuly,
Edmundas Daubaras
Playing international games is only playing. Working seriously means offcial documents and registration.
What are you - this is the question.
Some time ago the organizer of "America Pageant", "Musclemania" and some other famous contests Mr. Louis Zwick called me from USA and we have spoken on the matter of the officiality.
I know Mr.Louis Zwick nearly 20 years and all this period we were in friendly contact.
He sayed to me that WFF looks upon the officiality very serious. In USA these things go more easy. One has his own business ant it goes well.
Yes, I agree. But when it goes to deal with the Governments, Parliaments, Municipal Governments, official National and International organizations - then the officiality does matter.
It is not possible to be on the respectable level and be unregistered. At least it should be as your private business (like IFBB, WABBA or NABBA-International of Mr.Joe Lopez).
This is the position of the official (not fake) WFF-International. And WFF-International does everything from this position.
I know Louis. He is a good man!
Louis is a very active person. Positively active. There are not so much such men among us.