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samuel Wrote:
Brad Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:This is a picture of one of the last meetings, when there was only one NABBA.
But even then it was wery strange to see three presidents of NABBA: Ivan Dunbar, Klaus Hoffmann and Joe Lopes. It was a very clumsy constant question for every of the members of NABBA: who of them was the Boss???
Every one of the three NABBA Presidents was going after each NABBA member with his own check-book collecting the annual fee. Sometimes it was very strange to see some concurence between them: who of them takes the fee first...
It was strange to see that those check-books were not official ones. Such checks you can buy in every shop round the corner.
Finaly due to the inner fights and intriques NABBA was split and three NABBA's appeared on the bodybuilding stage.
FOTO:
NABBA - last time together.
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Interesting information!

I even do not know what to say!

Lovely story!
Alicija Wrote:
samuel Wrote:
Brad Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:This is a picture of one of the last meetings, when there was only one NABBA.
But even then it was wery strange to see three presidents of NABBA: Ivan Dunbar, Klaus Hoffmann and Joe Lopes. It was a very clumsy constant question for every of the members of NABBA: who of them was the Boss???
Every one of the three NABBA Presidents was going after each NABBA member with his own check-book collecting the annual fee. Sometimes it was very strange to see some concurence between them: who of them takes the fee first...
It was strange to see that those check-books were not official ones. Such checks you can buy in every shop round the corner.
Finaly due to the inner fights and intriques NABBA was split and three NABBA's appeared on the bodybuilding stage.
FOTO:
NABBA - last time together.
s
Interesting information!

I even do not know what to say!

Lovely story!

It is a lovely story when you know it. But when not - it seems as a very serious NABBA association.
Sorry, very seriuos three NABBA associations.
andrey Wrote:
Alicija Wrote:
samuel Wrote:
Brad Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:This is a picture of one of the last meetings, when there was only one NABBA.
But even then it was wery strange to see three presidents of NABBA: Ivan Dunbar, Klaus Hoffmann and Joe Lopes. It was a very clumsy constant question for every of the members of NABBA: who of them was the Boss???
Every one of the three NABBA Presidents was going after each NABBA member with his own check-book collecting the annual fee. Sometimes it was very strange to see some concurence between them: who of them takes the fee first...
It was strange to see that those check-books were not official ones. Such checks you can buy in every shop round the corner.
Finaly due to the inner fights and intriques NABBA was split and three NABBA's appeared on the bodybuilding stage.
FOTO:
NABBA - last time together.
s
Interesting information!

I even do not know what to say!

Lovely story!

It is a lovely story when you know it. But when not - it seems as a very serious NABBA association.
Sorry, very seriuos three NABBA associations.

Humoristic situation about nabba's!
Danny Wrote:
andrey Wrote:
Alicija Wrote:
samuel Wrote:
Brad Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:This is a picture of one of the last meetings, when there was only one NABBA.
But even then it was wery strange to see three presidents of NABBA: Ivan Dunbar, Klaus Hoffmann and Joe Lopes. It was a very clumsy constant question for every of the members of NABBA: who of them was the Boss???
Every one of the three NABBA Presidents was going after each NABBA member with his own check-book collecting the annual fee. Sometimes it was very strange to see some concurence between them: who of them takes the fee first...
It was strange to see that those check-books were not official ones. Such checks you can buy in every shop round the corner.
Finaly due to the inner fights and intriques NABBA was split and three NABBA's appeared on the bodybuilding stage.
FOTO:
NABBA - last time together.
s
Interesting information!

I even do not know what to say!

Lovely story!

It is a lovely story when you know it. But when not - it seems as a very serious NABBA association.
Sorry, very seriuos three NABBA associations.

Humoristic situation about nabba's!

NABBA-3 of Joe Lopez is loosing it's power. NABBA-International President Joe Lopez is not always present at the official contests. The initiative and power of the organization slowly goes to NABBA Germany (NAC). During the last years NAC organized a number of good contetsts for NABBA in Germany. But NAC is a German NABBA, not International. When this question will be solved, NABBA will get a new face and fresh power.
Sendriene Edita Wrote:
Danny Wrote:
andrey Wrote:
Alicija Wrote:
samuel Wrote:
Brad Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:This is a picture of one of the last meetings, when there was only one NABBA.
But even then it was wery strange to see three presidents of NABBA: Ivan Dunbar, Klaus Hoffmann and Joe Lopes. It was a very clumsy constant question for every of the members of NABBA: who of them was the Boss???
Every one of the three NABBA Presidents was going after each NABBA member with his own check-book collecting the annual fee. Sometimes it was very strange to see some concurence between them: who of them takes the fee first...
It was strange to see that those check-books were not official ones. Such checks you can buy in every shop round the corner.
Finaly due to the inner fights and intriques NABBA was split and three NABBA's appeared on the bodybuilding stage.
FOTO:
NABBA - last time together.
s
Interesting information!

I even do not know what to say!

Lovely story!

It is a lovely story when you know it. But when not - it seems as a very serious NABBA association.
Sorry, very seriuos three NABBA associations.

Humoristic situation about nabba's!

NABBA-3 of Joe Lopez is loosing it's power. NABBA-International President Joe Lopez is not always present at the official contests. The initiative and power of the organization slowly goes to NABBA Germany (NAC). During the last years NAC organized a number of good contetsts for NABBA in Germany. But NAC is a German NABBA, not International. When this question will be solved, NABBA will get a new face and fresh power.

Due to financial problems NABBA of Joe Lopez refused to organize 2006 Eyurope Championships.
So both NABBA's - one of Ivan Dunbar and another of Joe Lopez - due to the same reasons had no Europe Championships this year.
Ellada Wrote:
Sendriene Edita Wrote:
Danny Wrote:
andrey Wrote:
Alicija Wrote:
samuel Wrote:
Brad Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:This is a picture of one of the last meetings, when there was only one NABBA.
But even then it was wery strange to see three presidents of NABBA: Ivan Dunbar, Klaus Hoffmann and Joe Lopes. It was a very clumsy constant question for every of the members of NABBA: who of them was the Boss???
Every one of the three NABBA Presidents was going after each NABBA member with his own check-book collecting the annual fee. Sometimes it was very strange to see some concurence between them: who of them takes the fee first...
It was strange to see that those check-books were not official ones. Such checks you can buy in every shop round the corner.
Finaly due to the inner fights and intriques NABBA was split and three NABBA's appeared on the bodybuilding stage.
FOTO:
NABBA - last time together.
s
Interesting information!

I even do not know what to say!

Lovely story!

It is a lovely story when you know it. But when not - it seems as a very serious NABBA association.
Sorry, very seriuos three NABBA associations.

Humoristic situation about nabba's!

NABBA-3 of Joe Lopez is loosing it's power. NABBA-International President Joe Lopez is not always present at the official contests. The initiative and power of the organization slowly goes to NABBA Germany (NAC). During the last years NAC organized a number of good contetsts for NABBA in Germany. But NAC is a German NABBA, not International. When this question will be solved, NABBA will get a new face and fresh power.

Due to financial problems NABBA of Joe Lopez refused to organize 2006 Eyurope Championships.
So both NABBA's - one of Ivan Dunbar and another of Joe Lopez - due to the same reasons had no Europe Championships this year.

This shows unstability in all NABBA's.
I think the organization of Joe Lopez will end with NAC coming on top and soon we will see something new in the bodybuilding World.
The NABBA of Ivan Dunbar is suffering bad times for years and I suppose nothing good will be in future for them. Financial weakness, no support caused this NABBA-2 a few times to make World and Europe Championships together in one day with the same bodybuilders. Now they have no power to do an European Championship at all...
At the same time NABBA UK will go on with British "Universe" contests and bodybuilders from many countries will go there (but not from USA!). But this is NABBA UK, not NABBA-International!!! British people from NABBA UK work hard and do well. I like the way they work it!
timoxa Wrote:
Ellada Wrote:
Sendriene Edita Wrote:
Danny Wrote:
andrey Wrote:
Alicija Wrote:
samuel Wrote:
Brad Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:This is a picture of one of the last meetings, when there was only one NABBA.
But even then it was wery strange to see three presidents of NABBA: Ivan Dunbar, Klaus Hoffmann and Joe Lopes. It was a very clumsy constant question for every of the members of NABBA: who of them was the Boss???
Every one of the three NABBA Presidents was going after each NABBA member with his own check-book collecting the annual fee. Sometimes it was very strange to see some concurence between them: who of them takes the fee first...
It was strange to see that those check-books were not official ones. Such checks you can buy in every shop round the corner.
Finaly due to the inner fights and intriques NABBA was split and three NABBA's appeared on the bodybuilding stage.
FOTO:
NABBA - last time together.
s
Interesting information!

I even do not know what to say!

Lovely story!

It is a lovely story when you know it. But when not - it seems as a very serious NABBA association.
Sorry, very seriuos three NABBA associations.

Humoristic situation about nabba's!

NABBA-3 of Joe Lopez is loosing it's power. NABBA-International President Joe Lopez is not always present at the official contests. The initiative and power of the organization slowly goes to NABBA Germany (NAC). During the last years NAC organized a number of good contetsts for NABBA in Germany. But NAC is a German NABBA, not International. When this question will be solved, NABBA will get a new face and fresh power.

Due to financial problems NABBA of Joe Lopez refused to organize 2006 Eyurope Championships.
So both NABBA's - one of Ivan Dunbar and another of Joe Lopez - due to the same reasons had no Europe Championships this year.

This shows unstability in all NABBA's.
I think the organization of Joe Lopez will end with NAC coming on top and soon we will see something new in the bodybuilding World.
The NABBA of Ivan Dunbar is suffering bad times for years and I suppose nothing good will be in future for them. Financial weakness, no support caused this NABBA-2 a few times to make World and Europe Championships together in one day with the same bodybuilders. Now they have no power to do an European Championship at all...
At the same time NABBA UK will go on with British "Universe" contests and bodybuilders from many countries will go there (but not from USA!). But this is NABBA UK, not NABBA-International!!! British people from NABBA UK work hard and do well. I like the way they work it!

Valuable information!
Jerremy Wrote:
timoxa Wrote:
Ellada Wrote:
Sendriene Edita Wrote:
Danny Wrote:
andrey Wrote:
Alicija Wrote:
samuel Wrote:
Brad Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:This is a picture of one of the last meetings, when there was only one NABBA.
But even then it was wery strange to see three presidents of NABBA: Ivan Dunbar, Klaus Hoffmann and Joe Lopes. It was a very clumsy constant question for every of the members of NABBA: who of them was the Boss???
Every one of the three NABBA Presidents was going after each NABBA member with his own check-book collecting the annual fee. Sometimes it was very strange to see some concurence between them: who of them takes the fee first...
It was strange to see that those check-books were not official ones. Such checks you can buy in every shop round the corner.
Finaly due to the inner fights and intriques NABBA was split and three NABBA's appeared on the bodybuilding stage.
FOTO:
NABBA - last time together.
s
Interesting information!

I even do not know what to say!

Lovely story!

It is a lovely story when you know it. But when not - it seems as a very serious NABBA association.
Sorry, very seriuos three NABBA associations.

Humoristic situation about nabba's!

NABBA-3 of Joe Lopez is loosing it's power. NABBA-International President Joe Lopez is not always present at the official contests. The initiative and power of the organization slowly goes to NABBA Germany (NAC). During the last years NAC organized a number of good contetsts for NABBA in Germany. But NAC is a German NABBA, not International. When this question will be solved, NABBA will get a new face and fresh power.

Due to financial problems NABBA of Joe Lopez refused to organize 2006 Eyurope Championships.
So both NABBA's - one of Ivan Dunbar and another of Joe Lopez - due to the same reasons had no Europe Championships this year.

This shows unstability in all NABBA's.
I think the organization of Joe Lopez will end with NAC coming on top and soon we will see something new in the bodybuilding World.
The NABBA of Ivan Dunbar is suffering bad times for years and I suppose nothing good will be in future for them. Financial weakness, no support caused this NABBA-2 a few times to make World and Europe Championships together in one day with the same bodybuilders. Now they have no power to do an European Championship at all...
At the same time NABBA UK will go on with British "Universe" contests and bodybuilders from many countries will go there (but not from USA!). But this is NABBA UK, not NABBA-International!!! British people from NABBA UK work hard and do well. I like the way they work it!

Valuable information!

Indeed!
Greg Wrote:
Jerremy Wrote:
timoxa Wrote:
Ellada Wrote:
Sendriene Edita Wrote:
Danny Wrote:
andrey Wrote:
Alicija Wrote:
samuel Wrote:
Brad Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:This is a picture of one of the last meetings, when there was only one NABBA.
But even then it was wery strange to see three presidents of NABBA: Ivan Dunbar, Klaus Hoffmann and Joe Lopes. It was a very clumsy constant question for every of the members of NABBA: who of them was the Boss???
Every one of the three NABBA Presidents was going after each NABBA member with his own check-book collecting the annual fee. Sometimes it was very strange to see some concurence between them: who of them takes the fee first...
It was strange to see that those check-books were not official ones. Such checks you can buy in every shop round the corner.
Finaly due to the inner fights and intriques NABBA was split and three NABBA's appeared on the bodybuilding stage.
FOTO:
NABBA - last time together.
s
Interesting information!

I even do not know what to say!

Lovely story!

It is a lovely story when you know it. But when not - it seems as a very serious NABBA association.
Sorry, very seriuos three NABBA associations.

Humoristic situation about nabba's!

NABBA-3 of Joe Lopez is loosing it's power. NABBA-International President Joe Lopez is not always present at the official contests. The initiative and power of the organization slowly goes to NABBA Germany (NAC). During the last years NAC organized a number of good contetsts for NABBA in Germany. But NAC is a German NABBA, not International. When this question will be solved, NABBA will get a new face and fresh power.

Due to financial problems NABBA of Joe Lopez refused to organize 2006 Eyurope Championships.
So both NABBA's - one of Ivan Dunbar and another of Joe Lopez - due to the same reasons had no Europe Championships this year.

This shows unstability in all NABBA's.
I think the organization of Joe Lopez will end with NAC coming on top and soon we will see something new in the bodybuilding World.
The NABBA of Ivan Dunbar is suffering bad times for years and I suppose nothing good will be in future for them. Financial weakness, no support caused this NABBA-2 a few times to make World and Europe Championships together in one day with the same bodybuilders. Now they have no power to do an European Championship at all...
At the same time NABBA UK will go on with British "Universe" contests and bodybuilders from many countries will go there (but not from USA!). But this is NABBA UK, not NABBA-International!!! British people from NABBA UK work hard and do well. I like the way they work it!

Valuable information!

Indeed!

I LIKE SUCH INFO!
Lori Wrote:
Greg Wrote:
Jerremy Wrote:
timoxa Wrote:
Ellada Wrote:
Sendriene Edita Wrote:
Danny Wrote:
andrey Wrote:
Alicija Wrote:
samuel Wrote:
Brad Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:This is a picture of one of the last meetings, when there was only one NABBA.
But even then it was wery strange to see three presidents of NABBA: Ivan Dunbar, Klaus Hoffmann and Joe Lopes. It was a very clumsy constant question for every of the members of NABBA: who of them was the Boss???
Every one of the three NABBA Presidents was going after each NABBA member with his own check-book collecting the annual fee. Sometimes it was very strange to see some concurence between them: who of them takes the fee first...
It was strange to see that those check-books were not official ones. Such checks you can buy in every shop round the corner.
Finaly due to the inner fights and intriques NABBA was split and three NABBA's appeared on the bodybuilding stage.
FOTO:
NABBA - last time together.
s
Interesting information!

I even do not know what to say!

Lovely story!

It is a lovely story when you know it. But when not - it seems as a very serious NABBA association.
Sorry, very seriuos three NABBA associations.

Humoristic situation about nabba's!

NABBA-3 of Joe Lopez is loosing it's power. NABBA-International President Joe Lopez is not always present at the official contests. The initiative and power of the organization slowly goes to NABBA Germany (NAC). During the last years NAC organized a number of good contetsts for NABBA in Germany. But NAC is a German NABBA, not International. When this question will be solved, NABBA will get a new face and fresh power.

Due to financial problems NABBA of Joe Lopez refused to organize 2006 Eyurope Championships.
So both NABBA's - one of Ivan Dunbar and another of Joe Lopez - due to the same reasons had no Europe Championships this year.

This shows unstability in all NABBA's.
I think the organization of Joe Lopez will end with NAC coming on top and soon we will see something new in the bodybuilding World.
The NABBA of Ivan Dunbar is suffering bad times for years and I suppose nothing good will be in future for them. Financial weakness, no support caused this NABBA-2 a few times to make World and Europe Championships together in one day with the same bodybuilders. Now they have no power to do an European Championship at all...
At the same time NABBA UK will go on with British "Universe" contests and bodybuilders from many countries will go there (but not from USA!). But this is NABBA UK, not NABBA-International!!! British people from NABBA UK work hard and do well. I like the way they work it!

Valuable information!

Indeed!

I LIKE SUCH INFO!

But there are many people, who do not like that others start knowing the matter like this.
For them is better you know nothing!
Nicole Wrote:
Lori Wrote:
Greg Wrote:
Jerremy Wrote:
timoxa Wrote:
Ellada Wrote:
Sendriene Edita Wrote:
Danny Wrote:
andrey Wrote:
Alicija Wrote:
samuel Wrote:
Brad Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:This is a picture of one of the last meetings, when there was only one NABBA.
But even then it was wery strange to see three presidents of NABBA: Ivan Dunbar, Klaus Hoffmann and Joe Lopes. It was a very clumsy constant question for every of the members of NABBA: who of them was the Boss???
Every one of the three NABBA Presidents was going after each NABBA member with his own check-book collecting the annual fee. Sometimes it was very strange to see some concurence between them: who of them takes the fee first...
It was strange to see that those check-books were not official ones. Such checks you can buy in every shop round the corner.
Finaly due to the inner fights and intriques NABBA was split and three NABBA's appeared on the bodybuilding stage.
FOTO:
NABBA - last time together.
s
Interesting information!

I even do not know what to say!

Lovely story!

It is a lovely story when you know it. But when not - it seems as a very serious NABBA association.
Sorry, very seriuos three NABBA associations.

Humoristic situation about nabba's!

NABBA-3 of Joe Lopez is loosing it's power. NABBA-International President Joe Lopez is not always present at the official contests. The initiative and power of the organization slowly goes to NABBA Germany (NAC). During the last years NAC organized a number of good contetsts for NABBA in Germany. But NAC is a German NABBA, not International. When this question will be solved, NABBA will get a new face and fresh power.

Due to financial problems NABBA of Joe Lopez refused to organize 2006 Eyurope Championships.
So both NABBA's - one of Ivan Dunbar and another of Joe Lopez - due to the same reasons had no Europe Championships this year.

This shows unstability in all NABBA's.
I think the organization of Joe Lopez will end with NAC coming on top and soon we will see something new in the bodybuilding World.
The NABBA of Ivan Dunbar is suffering bad times for years and I suppose nothing good will be in future for them. Financial weakness, no support caused this NABBA-2 a few times to make World and Europe Championships together in one day with the same bodybuilders. Now they have no power to do an European Championship at all...
At the same time NABBA UK will go on with British "Universe" contests and bodybuilders from many countries will go there (but not from USA!). But this is NABBA UK, not NABBA-International!!! British people from NABBA UK work hard and do well. I like the way they work it!

Valuable information!

Indeed!

I LIKE SUCH INFO!

But there are many people, who do not like that others start knowing the matter like this.
For them is better you know nothing!

Yes, you are right!
I would like that WFF will continue giving information to all of us. Other federations never say what is going on!
Eva Wrote:I would like that WFF will continue giving information to all of us. Other federations never say what is going on!

Yes!
Nick Wrote:
Eva Wrote:I would like that WFF will continue giving information to all of us. Other federations never say what is going on!

Yes!

Indeed! This is very important for all ofus in variuos countries!
This thema more suits here.
There were a few official meetings between the President WFF-International EDMUNDAS DAUBARAS, President WFF Russia ANDREJ BASOV from one side and representatives of Government Moscow, representatives of Government Tver, representatives of the Prersident Russia VLADIMIR PUTIN from another side.
The results of those meetings are evident:
- coming 2006 WFF Amateur World Championship in Tver (November 10-12)
- support to the WFF-International
- support to the WFF Russia.
Indeed, every day WFF-International goes forward it's official way. Official social non profit international organization (not a commercial firm as IFBB or WABBA, not just a group of friends like NABBA or some other so called "organizations").
The results of this "official way" with being registrated are evident, as you can see: total support by the Governments and National Olympic Committees of different countries.
Edita Sendriene Wrote:This thema more suits here.
There were a few official meetings between the President WFF-International EDMUNDAS DAUBARAS, President WFF Russia ANDREJ BASOV from one side and representatives of Government Moscow, representatives of Government Tver, representatives of the Prersident Russia VLADIMIR PUTIN from another side.
The results of those meetings are evident:
- coming 2006 WFF Amateur World Championship in Tver (November 10-12)
- support to the WFF-International
- support to the WFF Russia.
Indeed, every day WFF-International goes forward it's official way. Official social non profit international organization (not a commercial firm as IFBB or WABBA, not just a group of friends like NABBA or some other so called "organizations").
The results of this "official way" with being registrated are evident, as you can see: total support by the Governments and National Olympic Committees of different countries.

Only a blind person can not see this!
Alicija Wrote:
Edita Sendriene Wrote:This thema more suits here.
There were a few official meetings between the President WFF-International EDMUNDAS DAUBARAS, President WFF Russia ANDREJ BASOV from one side and representatives of Government Moscow, representatives of Government Tver, representatives of the Prersident Russia VLADIMIR PUTIN from another side.
The results of those meetings are evident:
- coming 2006 WFF Amateur World Championship in Tver (November 10-12)
- support to the WFF-International
- support to the WFF Russia.
Indeed, every day WFF-International goes forward it's official way. Official social non profit international organization (not a commercial firm as IFBB or WABBA, not just a group of friends like NABBA or some other so called "organizations").
The results of this "official way" with being registrated are evident, as you can see: total support by the Governments and National Olympic Committees of different countries.

Only a blind person can not see this!

That means great eveluation of the WFF-International work.
Maybe it souds a little somehow offensive, but we should state that there is a big mess in the international sport of fitness and bodybuilding. It looks very much like a gipsy bazar: variuos people, variuos dresses, variuos languages, songs and talks.
But the basic essence of every federation is neglected: official registration (registration certificate, constitution, judging rules, book keeping etc...). We speak about it again and again. Being not registarted the organization is not organization. It is just gathering of people.
Organization (especially international one) can not live the "gipsy way". It must be registered (as an organization, not as a public club like NABBA UK, or even more not registrated at all as NABBA of Ivan Dunbar or IFBA of Biagio Filizila!).
We understand that our so called "old federations" do not like our oppinion. They are used to the "gypsy way", but life goes on. Techological revolution opens the doors for all of us to know more, to know better and to move ahead. At least we do not want to go the "gipsy way"... Every organization respecting laws should go the official way.
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:Maybe it souds a little somehow offensive, but we should state that there is a big mess in the international sport of fitness and bodybuilding. It looks very much like a gipsy bazar: variuos people, variuos dresses, variuos languages, songs and talks.
But the basic essence of every federation is neglected: official registration (registration certificate, constitution, judging rules, book keeping etc...). We speak about it again and again. Being not registarted the organization is not organization. It is just gathering of people.
Organization (especially international one) can not live the "gipsy way". It must be registered (as an organization, not as a public club like NABBA UK, or even more not registrated at all as NABBA of Ivan Dunbar or IFBA of Biagio Filizila!).
We understand that our so called "old federations" do not like our oppinion. They are used to the "gypsy way", but life goes on. Techological revolution opens the doors for all of us to know more, to know better and to move ahead. At least we do not want to go the "gipsy way"... Every organization respecting laws should go the official way.

Do you want to say that all organizations are not registered and not official?
Elisabeth Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:Maybe it souds a little somehow offensive, but we should state that there is a big mess in the international sport of fitness and bodybuilding. It looks very much like a gipsy bazar: variuos people, variuos dresses, variuos languages, songs and talks.
But the basic essence of every federation is neglected: official registration (registration certificate, constitution, judging rules, book keeping etc...). We speak about it again and again. Being not registarted the organization is not organization. It is just gathering of people.
Organization (especially international one) can not live the "gipsy way". It must be registered (as an organization, not as a public club like NABBA UK, or even more not registrated at all as NABBA of Ivan Dunbar or IFBA of Biagio Filizila!).
We understand that our so called "old federations" do not like our oppinion. They are used to the "gypsy way", but life goes on. Techological revolution opens the doors for all of us to know more, to know better and to move ahead. At least we do not want to go the "gipsy way"... Every organization respecting laws should go the official way.

Do you want to say that all organizations are not registered and not official?

No, there are registered private commercial firms, that call themselves "International Federation".
But we should state that WFF-International is the only one registered International Social Non Profit Seeking Sport Organization. It has nothing private.
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:
Elisabeth Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:Maybe it souds a little somehow offensive, but we should state that there is a big mess in the international sport of fitness and bodybuilding. It looks very much like a gipsy bazar: variuos people, variuos dresses, variuos languages, songs and talks.
But the basic essence of every federation is neglected: official registration (registration certificate, constitution, judging rules, book keeping etc...). We speak about it again and again. Being not registarted the organization is not organization. It is just gathering of people.
Organization (especially international one) can not live the "gipsy way". It must be registered (as an organization, not as a public club like NABBA UK, or even more not registrated at all as NABBA of Ivan Dunbar or IFBA of Biagio Filizila!).
We understand that our so called "old federations" do not like our oppinion. They are used to the "gypsy way", but life goes on. Techological revolution opens the doors for all of us to know more, to know better and to move ahead. At least we do not want to go the "gipsy way"... Every organization respecting laws should go the official way.

Do you want to say that all organizations are not registered and not official?

No, there are registered private commercial firms, that call themselves "International Federation".
But we should state that WFF-International is the only one registered International Social Non Profit Seeking Sport Organization. It has nothing private.

I know that IFBB ia a private commercial firm of Ben Weider and Jim Manion.
I know that WABBA ia a commercial private firm of De Beck.
I know that one of three NABBA's is a private commercial firm of Joe Lopez.
Alicija Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:
Elisabeth Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:Maybe it souds a little somehow offensive, but we should state that there is a big mess in the international sport of fitness and bodybuilding. It looks very much like a gipsy bazar: variuos people, variuos dresses, variuos languages, songs and talks.
But the basic essence of every federation is neglected: official registration (registration certificate, constitution, judging rules, book keeping etc...). We speak about it again and again. Being not registarted the organization is not organization. It is just gathering of people.
Organization (especially international one) can not live the "gipsy way". It must be registered (as an organization, not as a public club like NABBA UK, or even more not registrated at all as NABBA of Ivan Dunbar or IFBA of Biagio Filizila!).
We understand that our so called "old federations" do not like our oppinion. They are used to the "gypsy way", but life goes on. Techological revolution opens the doors for all of us to know more, to know better and to move ahead. At least we do not want to go the "gipsy way"... Every organization respecting laws should go the official way.

Do you want to say that all organizations are not registered and not official?

No, there are registered private commercial firms, that call themselves "International Federation".
But we should state that WFF-International is the only one registered International Social Non Profit Seeking Sport Organization. It has nothing private.

I know that IFBB ia a private commercial firm of Ben Weider and Jim Manion.
I know that WABBA ia a commercial private firm of De Beck.
I know that one of three NABBA's is a private commercial firm of Joe Lopez.

It is very strange when a commercial firm calls itself "international sport federation". Every commercial firm wants profit. How does it connect with the international sport federation and international sport in general?
We are sportsmen, we stay for sport and somebody makes business of us?
Tuse Wrote:
Alicija Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:
Elisabeth Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:Maybe it souds a little somehow offensive, but we should state that there is a big mess in the international sport of fitness and bodybuilding. It looks very much like a gipsy bazar: variuos people, variuos dresses, variuos languages, songs and talks.
But the basic essence of every federation is neglected: official registration (registration certificate, constitution, judging rules, book keeping etc...). We speak about it again and again. Being not registarted the organization is not organization. It is just gathering of people.
Organization (especially international one) can not live the "gipsy way". It must be registered (as an organization, not as a public club like NABBA UK, or even more not registrated at all as NABBA of Ivan Dunbar or IFBA of Biagio Filizila!).
We understand that our so called "old federations" do not like our oppinion. They are used to the "gypsy way", but life goes on. Techological revolution opens the doors for all of us to know more, to know better and to move ahead. At least we do not want to go the "gipsy way"... Every organization respecting laws should go the official way.

Do you want to say that all organizations are not registered and not official?

No, there are registered private commercial firms, that call themselves "International Federation".
But we should state that WFF-International is the only one registered International Social Non Profit Seeking Sport Organization. It has nothing private.

I know that IFBB ia a private commercial firm of Ben Weider and Jim Manion.
I know that WABBA ia a commercial private firm of De Beck.
I know that one of three NABBA's is a private commercial firm of Joe Lopez.

It is very strange when a commercial firm calls itself "international sport federation". Every commercial firm wants profit. How does it connect with the international sport federation and international sport in general?
We are sportsmen, we stay for sport and somebody makes business of us?

Let everybody answer this question to himself on his own. Everybody must think a little and decide.
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:
Tuse Wrote:
Alicija Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:
Elisabeth Wrote:
Daubaras Edmundas Wrote:Maybe it souds a little somehow offensive, but we should state that there is a big mess in the international sport of fitness and bodybuilding. It looks very much like a gipsy bazar: variuos people, variuos dresses, variuos languages, songs and talks.
But the basic essence of every federation is neglected: official registration (registration certificate, constitution, judging rules, book keeping etc...). We speak about it again and again. Being not registarted the organization is not organization. It is just gathering of people.
Organization (especially international one) can not live the "gipsy way". It must be registered (as an organization, not as a public club like NABBA UK, or even more not registrated at all as NABBA of Ivan Dunbar or IFBA of Biagio Filizila!).
We understand that our so called "old federations" do not like our oppinion. They are used to the "gypsy way", but life goes on. Techological revolution opens the doors for all of us to know more, to know better and to move ahead. At least we do not want to go the "gipsy way"... Every organization respecting laws should go the official way.

Do you want to say that all organizations are not registered and not official?

No, there are registered private commercial firms, that call themselves "International Federation".
But we should state that WFF-International is the only one registered International Social Non Profit Seeking Sport Organization. It has nothing private.

I know that IFBB ia a private commercial firm of Ben Weider and Jim Manion.
I know that WABBA ia a commercial private firm of De Beck.
I know that one of three NABBA's is a private commercial firm of Joe Lopez.

It is very strange when a commercial firm calls itself "international sport federation". Every commercial firm wants profit. How does it connect with the international sport federation and international sport in general?
We are sportsmen, we stay for sport and somebody makes business of us?

Let everybody answer this question to himself on his own. Everybody must think a little and decide.

No words...
Thinking is a very useful occupation!
It is no secret that IFBB Czechia was split.
For years IFBB Czechia was organizing anual commercial contest (this time with 7000 Euro prize money).
The contest organizers are inviting WFF athletes to thier contest this year.
They are even ready to put WFF logo on stage, newspapers and TV.
But:
- it is very unexpected for WFF-International
- the time of contest is not the best for WFF-International
- there is very little time to think it over.
If it were convenient, then it could be a 2006 "WFF World Pro Grand Prix" with the best World's athletes!
Edita Sendriene Wrote:It is no secret that IFBB Czechia was split.
For years IFBB Czechia was organizing anual commercial contest (this time with 7000 Euro prize money).
The contest organizers are inviting WFF athletes to thier contest this year.
They are even ready to put WFF logo on stage, newspapers and TV.
But:
- it is very unexpected for WFF-International
- the time of contest is not the best for WFF-International
- there is very little time to think it over.
If it were convenient, then it could be a 2006 "WFF World Pro Grand Prix" with the best World's athletes!

Oh....
Jenny Wrote:
Edita Sendriene Wrote:It is no secret that IFBB Czechia was split.
For years IFBB Czechia was organizing anual commercial contest (this time with 7000 Euro prize money).
The contest organizers are inviting WFF athletes to thier contest this year.
They are even ready to put WFF logo on stage, newspapers and TV.
But:
- it is very unexpected for WFF-International
- the time of contest is not the best for WFF-International
- there is very little time to think it over.
If it were convenient, then it could be a 2006 "WFF World Pro Grand Prix" with the best World's athletes!

Oh....

I like this process. Wff becomes very popular!
President WFF North America MICHAEL GLASS is in correspondence with the live bodybuilding legend SERGE NUBRET.
Serge is interested in what WFF does and maybe we will meet him at 2006 WFF Pro World in Vilnius soon.
That are a few words of Sege's last letter to Michael:

"I red your e-mail with a lot of attentions. Evry thing on it remind me the time I was with the IFBB, it was a nightmare. You took to long to undestand the Weiders brother. I would like to know everything about the WFF...
...I saw many of your show and I know too what you capable to do. What a pitty we did not joined our power before...."
All the best
Serge Nubret
Edita Sendriene Wrote:President WFF North America MICHAEL GLASS is in correspondence with the live bodybuilding legend SERGE NUBRET.
Serge is interested in what WFF does and maybe we will meet him at 2006 WFF Pro World in Vilnius soon.
That are a few words of Sege's last letter to Michael:

"I red your e-mail with a lot of attentions. Evry thing on it remind me the time I was with the IFBB, it was a nightmare. You took to long to undestand the Weiders brother. I would like to know everything about the WFF...
...I saw many of your show and I know too what you capable to do. What a pitty we did not joined our power before...."
All the best
Serge Nubret