wff_edita Wrote:Šiandien gavome laišką iš POLO ČIUA (Paul Chua), antro pagal rangą žmogaus tarptautinėje IFBB veikloje.
Jis kelia IFBB teisinio egzistavimo legalumo klausimą.
Pasak jo, oficialiai registruota komercinė firma, kuri net vadinasi kitu vardu, pristatoma visuomenei kaip tarptautinė IFBB federacija.
IFBB konstitucija (įstatai), kurie paviešinti oficialiame IFBB interneto puslapyje, visai kiti, negu yra iš tikro.
IFBB – tai tik komercinė firma ir nieko daugiau.
P.ČIUA kaltina RAFAELĮ SANTOCHĄ, kad šis vengia viešo klausimo svarstymo, neatsako į oficialiai pateiktus juridinius ir finansinius klausimus.
Tačiau tikri IFBB patriotai eis iki galo ir parodys viską taip, kaip yra iš tikro.
Tam jau kreiptasi į Ispanijos ir Kanados policiją, išsiųsti dokumentai į WADA asociaciją.

wff_edita Wrote:

wff_edita Wrote:Šiandien gavome laišką iš POLO ČIUA (Paul Chua), antro pagal rangą žmogaus tarptautinėje IFBB veikloje.
Jis kelia IFBB teisinio egzistavimo legalumo klausimą.
Pasak jo, oficialiai registruota komercinė firma, kuri net vadinasi kitu vardu, pristatoma visuomenei kaip tarptautinė IFBB federacija.
IFBB konstitucija (įstatai), kurie paviešinti oficialiame IFBB interneto puslapyje, visai kiti, negu yra iš tikro.
IFBB – tai tik komercinė firma ir nieko daugiau.
P.ČIUA kaltina RAFAELĮ SANTOCHĄ, kad šis vengia viešo klausimo svarstymo, neatsako į oficialiai pateiktus juridinius ir finansinius klausimus.
Tačiau tikri IFBB patriotai eis iki galo ir parodys viską taip, kaip yra iš tikro.
Tam jau kreiptasi į Ispanijos ir Kanados policiją, išsiųsti dokumentai į WADA asociaciją.

DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE ABBF
I FEEL IT IS MY DUTY TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND AS TO WHY THE "IFBB" IS ACTING DESPERATELY TO REMOVE ME AND TO SUSPEND ALL OUR ABBF EXECUTIVE MEMBERS FOR ONE YEAR AS PER THE CIRCULAR LETTER SENT BY ADEL FAHIM, "EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE IFBB PRESIDENT" A COPY OF WHICH I HAVE WITH ME WRITTEN IN ARABIC AND TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH.
ANOTHER LETTER WAS SENT BY WILLIAM TIERNEY AS WELL.
RAFAEL AVOIDED IN SENDING THIS EMAIL AS HE KNOW THE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES INVOLVED.
HE CANNOT SIMPLY SUSPEND A CONTINENTAL FEDERATION, SINCE THEIR HOUSE IS NOT IN ORDER AND THEY HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER US, WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT THEM.
ABBF UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED BY MANY ASIAN COUNTRIES, AND IF A COMMITTEE IS FORMED BY RAFAEL'S GROUP WE WILL ELIMINATE THEM.
WE HAVE SPOKEN TO OUR LAWYERS IN LONDON AND THEY HAVE ASKED US TO CONTINUE WITH OUR WORK, AND IF RAFAEL AND HIS GROUP DISTURB US WE WILL TAKE LEGAL ACTION, THEY CANNOT DICTATATE AS WE HAD ALREADY PROCEEDED WITH OUR LEGAL PROCEEDINGS LAST MONTH.
THERE WAS NO NATURAL JUSTICE AND NO FAIR HEARING GIVEN TO ALL OF US.
IN THIS DEMOCRATIC AND CIVILISED WORLD NO INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION WILL SUSPEND A CONTINENTAL FEDERATION OR ITS EXECUTIVE MEMBERS WITHOUT A FAIR HEARING.
THEY SUSPENDED US BECAUSE OF THE 2005 DOPING CASES.
WE DID SUSPEND ALL THE ATHLETES AND EXCEPT FOR THE 3 HONGKONG ATHLETES THEIR SUSPENSION WERE REDUCED FROM 2 YEARS TO A YEAR WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE LATE BEN WEIDER AND THE IFBB. WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THE LATE BEN WEIDER TO PROVE. IFBB ALSO REDUCED THE SUSPENSION OF 2 ATHLETES FROM QATAR BY ACCEPTING US$10,000 FOR EACH OFFENCE FROM 2 YEARS TO 8 MONTHS. I HAVE ALL THE PAPERS WITH ME TO SHOW PROOF.
ABBF WILL NOT BE THE SERVANT OF THE "IFBB" NO MATTER WHAT, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR DUTY AND ACTIVITIES AS USUAL AND WE WILL ORGANISE OUR CHAMPIONSHIPS ON OUR OWN TO PROMOTE THIS SPORT.
I WOULD CALL UPON YOU TO STAND STRONG AND DO NOT GIVE WAY TO PRESSURE BECAUSE THIS "IFBB GROUP" IS STILL IN LIMBO BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL, AND THEY HAVE NOT PICKED THE COURAGE TO REPLY THE EMAIL WHICH MR. AXEL BAUER SENT TO THEM.
WHY?
THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE ACCOUNTS OF THE IFBB.
AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE IFBB CORPORATION IS NOT THE SAME AS PUBLISHED IN THEIR WEBSITE???
BE BRAVE AND STAND TALL AGAINST THEIR THREATS AND SUSPENSIONS ..
WE CANNOT BE COWED AROUND.
PLEASE READ THE LETTER SHOWN BELOW AND DIGEST SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW THE ACTUAL REASON WHY MR. RAFAEL SANTONJA IS NOT ANSWERING?
THE IFBB WAS REGISTERED UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME AND ALSO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE IFBB AND THE REGISTERED CORPORATIONS ARE NOT THE SAME.
THIS IS A BUSINESS CORPORATION.
RAFAEL IS SILENCING ME BECAUSE HE IS AFRAID THAT AT THE CONGRESS I WILL CHALLENGE HIM AND HE FEEL THAT BY SUSPENDING ALL MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMIT TE OF THE ABBF , HE CAN DO AS AS HE WISH, NOBODY TO QUESTION HIM.
IF HE IS A BRAVE MAN, HE SHOULD NOT USE THIS DIRTY TACTIC TO SUSPEND ME AND THE ABBF.
THE EXCUSE OF DOPING MATTERS IS A PRETEXT, AND WE WILL WRITE TO WADA AND CHECK IF THIS IS TRUE OR FALSE. IT WAS THE IFFB THAT SET THE PRECEDENT OF REDUCING SUSPENSIONS, AND WE DID WITH THE CONSENT OF THE THE LATE IFBB PRESIDENT AND ALSO RAFAEL AND PAMELA WERE INFORMED. WHY THEY DID NOT OBJECT AT THAT TIME, THEY WENT ALONG WITH THE DECISION WHICH WAS MADE BY BEN.
MORE DOCUMENTS WILL BE EMAILED TO YOU SOON.
WE HAVE SOLID EVIDENCES
IF YOU RECEIVE ANY EMAIL OR LETTER FROM THE" IFBB" PLEASE IGNORE THEM AND CONTACT THE ABBF SECRETARY-GENERAL FOR CLARIFICATION BEFORE YOU REPLY THEM. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE UNITED AND STRONG.
IF YOUR OLYMPIC COMMITTEE OR ANY DEPARTMENTS WERE TO CALL YOU FOR EXPLANATIONS, PLEASE SHOW THEM THESE EMAILS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THE "IFBB" LEGAL STATUS IS IN QUESTION?
AND THEIR FINANCIAL PROBLEM IS IN A MESS.
PRINT OUT ALL THE DOCUMENTS WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN RECEIVING ABOUT THE IFBB LATELY AND HAND OVER TO THEM.
OUR PRESIDENT MR. OSAMA ALSHAFAR HAVE ASKED ME TO TELL YOU THAT WE WILL FIGHT ON WITH THIS DESTRUCTIVE GROUP AND WILL NOT RETREAT.
LONG LIVE ASI
PAUL CHUA
SECRETARY-GENERAL/TREASURER - ABBF


PLEASE READ THE ONES WHICH I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED PRINT...WHERE THE MONEY OF THE IFBB GONE TO??? MYSTERY NEED TO BE SOLVED

Edita Sendriene WFF Wrote:Gerbiami sporto kolegos,
IFBB vadovai kreipėsi į mus prašydami paviešinti informaciją, kuria jie atsiuntė.
Draugiškumo vardan mes jų prašymą patenkinome.

CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
PLEASE READ THIS EMAIL CAREFULLY AND ALSO MY EMAIL OF TODAY DATE

Ifbb Professional <ifbbpro@rocketmail.com> wrote:
SILENCE IS NO MORE GOLDEN, BE HONEST AND COME OUT IN THE OPEN

Fair Play <ifbbeurope@yahoo.com> wrote:
DOES THE IFBB STILL EXIST???
Dear Sir,
You need to publish the news in your website and attack the pocket Napolean called Rafael and we must finish him

"Jose Pardo Hidalgo"pardoinfo@ono.com wrote:
Santonja email is internacional@santonja.com Write all you to them attacking. He must be destroyed. Only he wanr money,money and money. Really, he never likes Jewish persons,
included Ben Weider, my old father.

Fair Play <ifbbeurope@yahoo.com> wrote:
CONGRATS TO ABDUL SAMAD AND SHAME FOR THE IFBB
GOD IS GREAT. This is the way the CURRENT HIGH OFFICIALS of the IFBB operate. To cover and cheat and they could not hide their SHAME.
Where is the credibility of the Anti-Doping Committee and "President Rafael", they should resign. How can we trust them on doping ?
Victor

Fair Play <ifbbeurope@yahoo.com> wrote:
IS THE IFBB A SPORTS ORGANIZATION OR A BUSINESS CORPORATION??
his name is Mr. Paul Chua and he is the Secretary-General of the Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation whereby he controls about 40 countries in Asia.
He is also the current Vice-President of the IFBB for Asia.
He is strongly against Rafael Santonja the pocket Napolean and has taken legal action against him and the IFBB.

Tony Blinn [mailto:tblinn@ifbbpro.com]
I don't believe WADA would agree with such a decision; however, even more important than WADA, we have to do what's in the best interests of the IFBB first and foremost. And we all seem to agree that it's not in our best interests to suspend Mr. Santos for two years.

Ifbb Pro <ifbb@rocketmail.com> wrote:
CHEATING, BULLYING AND DICTACTORSHIP WILL NOT WORK ANYMORE
All those people who are involved in the scam must be brought to justice. All documents which I received will be sent to the three departments.
The IFBB Corporation must be transparent. They are hiding and keeping everything a secret for their personal benefit.
As an ardent supporter of EBBF, I would not want to be hauled and questioned by the police in my country.
I feel insecure after reading all the emails coming from the various people in the IFBB and EBBF.

WFF-WBBF Headquarters Int Wrote:Šiandien mes gavome laišką iš Singapūro.
Tarptautinės IFBB federacijos prezidentas POLAS ČIUA, atstovaujantis 40 Azijos ir Arabų pasaulio šalių, rašo, kad gerai atsimena 1989 metus, kai BENAS VEIDERIS jam pristatė pasaulinės WFF-WBBF federacijos prezidentą EDMUNDĄ DAUBARĄ.
Jis vardija žmones, esančius to meto nuotraukoje;
Iš kairės – „peliukas‘, jo dukra ŽOZEFINA ČIUA, BENAS VEIDERIS, EDMUNDAS DAUBARAS.
Išaiškėjus, kad IFBB yra ne sporto federacija, o privati firma, tik prisidengianti „federacijos“ pavadinimu, POLAS ČIUA tolimesniam sporto vystymui sutinka bendradarbiauti ir jungtis prie WFF-WBBF federacijos veiklos.

CHUA PAUL abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg wrote:

Dear friend Edmundas
I remember you because I was introduced by Ben in Kuala Lumpur. The lady sitted next to Ben is my daughter Josephine and of course next to her is the MOUSE.
Do you have a copy of your constitution for me to see.
Most of the Asian Countries are disgusted with the present IFBB and they are not an association and non-profit organisation but registered under a different name in Spain under the Corporation act.
If you have any information please send them to me.
We should co-operate and work together for the better development of our sport.
Warm regards

Datuk Paul Chua
ABBF Secretary-General/Treasurer
IFBB Vice-President for Asia

FOTO:
RAFAEL SANTONJA, JOSEPHINE CHUA, BEN WEIDER, EDMUNDAS DAUBARAS.
(1989)

WFF secretary service Wrote:Šiandien gavome dar vieną laišką iš vyriausio IFBB finansininko austro ALEKSO BAUERIO.
Pasak jo, RAFAELIS SANTOCHA vėl pažeidė IFBB konstituciją (tą, kuri paviešinta IFBB interneto puslapyje) - jis nubaudė ne tik lojalius IFBB narius, bet ir pačią Azijos IFBB federaciją.
1. Bijodamas viešumo ir atviros konfrontacijos su Azijos ir arabų šalių atstovais, R.SANTOCHA atšaukė pasaulio čempionatą Dubajuje
2. R.SANTOCHA nušalino nuo tarptautinės IFBB vice prezidento pareigų POLĄ ČIUA, kuris tarnavo IFBB 38 metus. Bet, esant tokiai purvinai situacijai IFBB, POLAS ir pats ten nebūtų likęs
3. R.SANTOCHA nušalino nuo veiklos SIMONĄ CHANĄ ir visą Azijos IFBB federaciją
4. Sekančiu kankiniu turi būti vyriausias IFBB finansininkas austras ALEKSAS BAUERIS, kuris išdrįso paviešinti nešvarias R.SANTOCHOS privačios IFBB korporacijos aferas
5. Sužinojusi tiesą, Azijos IFBB federacija pareiškė nenorinti būti menamai tarptautinės, o faktiškai „Ispanijos IFBB“, kuri yra privati komercinė firma, nare.
6. Visi turi parskaityti dokumentus, kuriuos atsiuntėme. Ten R.SANTOCHAI užduoti konkretūs juridiniai ir finansiniai klausimai, į kuriuos jis bijo ir nenori atsakyti.

Ifbb Professional ifbbpro@rocketmail.com wrote:
SINS OF RAFAEL AND HIS YES-MEN

Respected Sirs
This year 2009 Rafael blundered and acted in a dictatorial manner and used his power of Article 20.1 mercilessly attacking and punishing federation and loyal members of the IFBB. We curse at this man for his unbecoming behaviour and unbecoming attitude. He will pay a price or members of his family may get the curse, he cannot escape God's wrath.
1. He cancelled the Championships in Dubai, U.A.E. this year by postal votes (actually it was unilateral) but he said that it was done by postal votes; Why because he will look like a toy compared to Mr. Osama the champion of bodybuilders for Asia.
2. For not communicating with Rafael, Datuk Paul Chua was removed as the Executive Assistant? This is the most stupid reason given.
3. He suspended Datuk Paul Chua the man who served loyally and faithfully to the late Ben Weider in Asia for over 38 years. He used the doping incidents of the Hongkong Bodybuilders as a pretext to remove him. I understand Chua does not care anymore about the IFBB, he will not associate with these dirty rats.
4. He suspended Mr. Simon Chan, the Chairman of the ABBF Judges' Committee by holding a special meeting with all his YES-MEN ?
5. He suspended ABBF and its Executive Members for not obeying Rafael the dictator. His Executive Assistant happily announced in Arabic about this decision but he does not know the back-lash of the Asians. They underestimated the Asians pride.
6. We guess the next head to roll will be Mr. Axel Bauer for boldly speaking and exposing Rafael's crooked ways and the IFBB Corporation and their business empire???
I urge ABBF not to be a member of the so called "IFBB SPAIN" operating under the business corporation. You should not support the IFBB because it has many dirt's to clear.
You should read the emails which I sent to you: Mr. Axel Bauer asked many questions about their accounts, registration number etc. etc. but Rafael did not respond. Why is he hiding and avoiding all the questions from Mr. Bauer? IF THE IFBB IS CLEAN WHY NOT SUBMIT ALL THE INFORMATION AND CLEAR THE STORY OF SUSPICION ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Victor

Edita Sendriene WFF Wrote:Gerbiami sporto kolegos,
IFBB vadovai kreipėsi į mus prašydami paviešinti informaciją, kuria jie atsiuntė.
Draugiškumo vardan mes jų prašymą patenkinome.

CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
PLEASE READ THIS EMAIL CAREFULLY AND ALSO MY EMAIL OF TODAY DATE

Ifbb Professional <ifbbpro@rocketmail.com> wrote:
SILENCE IS NO MORE GOLDEN, BE HONEST AND COME OUT IN THE OPEN

Fair Play <ifbbeurope@yahoo.com> wrote:
DOES THE IFBB STILL EXIST???
Dear Sir,
You need to publish the news in your website and attack the pocket Napolean called Rafael and we must finish him

"Jose Pardo Hidalgo"pardoinfo@ono.com wrote:
Santonja email is internacional@santonja.com Write all you to them attacking. He must be destroyed. Only he wanr money,money and money. Really, he never likes Jewish persons,
included Ben Weider, my old father.

Fair Play <ifbbeurope@yahoo.com> wrote:
CONGRATS TO ABDUL SAMAD AND SHAME FOR THE IFBB
GOD IS GREAT. This is the way the CURRENT HIGH OFFICIALS of the IFBB operate. To cover and cheat and they could not hide their SHAME.
Where is the credibility of the Anti-Doping Committee and "President Rafael", they should resign. How can we trust them on doping ?
Victor

Fair Play <ifbbeurope@yahoo.com> wrote:
IS THE IFBB A SPORTS ORGANIZATION OR A BUSINESS CORPORATION??
his name is Mr. Paul Chua and he is the Secretary-General of the Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation whereby he controls about 40 countries in Asia.
He is also the current Vice-President of the IFBB for Asia.
He is strongly against Rafael Santonja the pocket Napolean and has taken legal action against him and the IFBB.

Tony Blinn [mailto:tblinn@ifbbpro.com]
I don't believe WADA would agree with such a decision; however, even more important than WADA, we have to do what's in the best interests of the IFBB first and foremost. And we all seem to agree that it's not in our best interests to suspend Mr. Santos for two years.

Ifbb Pro <ifbb@rocketmail.com> wrote:
CHEATING, BULLYING AND DICTACTORSHIP WILL NOT WORK ANYMORE
All those people who are involved in the scam must be brought to justice. All documents which I received will be sent to the three departments.
The IFBB Corporation must be transparent. They are hiding and keeping everything a secret for their personal benefit.
As an ardent supporter of EBBF, I would not want to be hauled and questioned by the police in my country.
I feel insecure after reading all the emails coming from the various people in the IFBB and EBBF.

Arunas Petraitis Wrote:JUODI DARBELIAI
Kažkada kalbėjome su IFBB pareigūnu ir šis papasakojo tokią istoriją.
IFBB pasaulio mėgėjų čempionate „pagavo“ naudojus dopingą 28 finalininkus iš 35 dalyvių (7 kategorijos po 5 dalyvius). Tuomet tarp „pakliuvusių“ buvo visa Rusijos rinktinė (8 žmonės) ir vienas lietuvis. - čia agentūra VBS (viena bobutė sakė)....

....nes tikriausiai kalbama apie 2002 m. Egipte vykusį pasaulio čempionatą. Faktai čia yra tokie: šešiose (nuo 65 kg iki per 90 kg) kategorijose buvo paimta 20 dopingo (pas visų kategorijų prizininkus plius dar 2 burtų keliu nustatytus atletus) mėginių.
Teigiami testai užfiksuoti pas 14 atletų: Masimov (AZE), Pahani (IRN), Kvača (CZE), Sayed (EGY), Milazzo (GER), Vorobjov (RUS), Bilous (UKR), Remizov (UKR), Shahat (EGY), Orosz (CZE), Strzelinski (POL), Cikunkov (RUS), Pocius (LTU), Protas (UKR).
Beje, toks pat antirekordas (14 teigiamų atvejų) buvo užfiksuotas ir 1990 m. pasaulio čempionate Malaizijoje.

Dita Wrote:

Arunas Petraitis Wrote:JUODI DARBELIAI
Kažkada kalbėjome su IFBB pareigūnu ir šis papasakojo tokią istoriją.
IFBB pasaulio mėgėjų čempionate „pagavo“ naudojus dopingą 28 finalininkus iš 35 dalyvių (7 kategorijos po 5 dalyvius). Tuomet tarp „pakliuvusių“ buvo visa Rusijos rinktinė (8 žmonės) ir vienas lietuvis. - čia agentūra VBS (viena bobutė sakė)....

....nes tikriausiai kalbama apie 2002 m. Egipte vykusį pasaulio čempionatą. Faktai čia yra tokie: šešiose (nuo 65 kg iki per 90 kg) kategorijose buvo paimta 20 dopingo (pas visų kategorijų prizininkus plius dar 2 burtų keliu nustatytus atletus) mėginių.
Teigiami testai užfiksuoti pas 14 atletų: Masimov (AZE), Pahani (IRN), Kvača (CZE), Sayed (EGY), Milazzo (GER), Vorobjov (RUS), Bilous (UKR), Remizov (UKR), Shahat (EGY), Orosz (CZE), Strzelinski (POL), Cikunkov (RUS), Pocius (LTU), Protas (UKR).
Beje, toks pat antirekordas (14 teigiamų atvejų) buvo užfiksuotas ir 1990 m. pasaulio čempionate Malaizijoje.

Motai, Arūnai, kadangi WFF tolima nuo dopingo vartojimo problemų, tuo labiau nuo dopingo statistikos, gali būti ir taip. Čia jau tamsta esi "specialistas".

wff_edita Wrote:

wff_edita Wrote:Šiandien gavome laišką iš POLO ČIUA (Paul Chua), antro pagal rangą žmogaus tarptautinėje IFBB veikloje.
Jis kelia IFBB teisinio egzistavimo legalumo klausimą.
Pasak jo, oficialiai registruota komercinė firma, kuri net vadinasi kitu vardu, pristatoma visuomenei kaip tarptautinė IFBB federacija.
IFBB konstitucija (įstatai), kurie paviešinti oficialiame IFBB interneto puslapyje, visai kiti, negu yra iš tikro.
IFBB – tai tik komercinė firma ir nieko daugiau.
P.ČIUA kaltina RAFAELĮ SANTOCHĄ, kad šis vengia viešo klausimo svarstymo, neatsako į oficialiai pateiktus juridinius ir finansinius klausimus.
Tačiau tikri IFBB patriotai eis iki galo ir parodys viską taip, kaip yra iš tikro.
Tam jau kreiptasi į Ispanijos ir Kanados policiją, išsiųsti dokumentai į WADA asociaciją.

DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE ABBF
I FEEL IT IS MY DUTY TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND AS TO WHY THE "IFBB" IS ACTING DESPERATELY TO REMOVE ME AND TO SUSPEND ALL OUR ABBF EXECUTIVE MEMBERS FOR ONE YEAR AS PER THE CIRCULAR LETTER SENT BY ADEL FAHIM, "EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE IFBB PRESIDENT" A COPY OF WHICH I HAVE WITH ME WRITTEN IN ARABIC AND TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH.
ANOTHER LETTER WAS SENT BY WILLIAM TIERNEY AS WELL.
RAFAEL AVOIDED IN SENDING THIS EMAIL AS HE KNOW THE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES INVOLVED.
HE CANNOT SIMPLY SUSPEND A CONTINENTAL FEDERATION, SINCE THEIR HOUSE IS NOT IN ORDER AND THEY HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER US, WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT THEM.
ABBF UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED BY MANY ASIAN COUNTRIES, AND IF A COMMITTEE IS FORMED BY RAFAEL'S GROUP WE WILL ELIMINATE THEM.
WE HAVE SPOKEN TO OUR LAWYERS IN LONDON AND THEY HAVE ASKED US TO CONTINUE WITH OUR WORK, AND IF RAFAEL AND HIS GROUP DISTURB US WE WILL TAKE LEGAL ACTION, THEY CANNOT DICTATATE AS WE HAD ALREADY PROCEEDED WITH OUR LEGAL PROCEEDINGS LAST MONTH.
THERE WAS NO NATURAL JUSTICE AND NO FAIR HEARING GIVEN TO ALL OF US.
IN THIS DEMOCRATIC AND CIVILISED WORLD NO INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION WILL SUSPEND A CONTINENTAL FEDERATION OR ITS EXECUTIVE MEMBERS WITHOUT A FAIR HEARING.
THEY SUSPENDED US BECAUSE OF THE 2005 DOPING CASES.
WE DID SUSPEND ALL THE ATHLETES AND EXCEPT FOR THE 3 HONGKONG ATHLETES THEIR SUSPENSION WERE REDUCED FROM 2 YEARS TO A YEAR WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE LATE BEN WEIDER AND THE IFBB. WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THE LATE BEN WEIDER TO PROVE. IFBB ALSO REDUCED THE SUSPENSION OF 2 ATHLETES FROM QATAR BY ACCEPTING US$10,000 FOR EACH OFFENCE FROM 2 YEARS TO 8 MONTHS. I HAVE ALL THE PAPERS WITH ME TO SHOW PROOF.
ABBF WILL NOT BE THE SERVANT OF THE "IFBB" NO MATTER WHAT, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR DUTY AND ACTIVITIES AS USUAL AND WE WILL ORGANISE OUR CHAMPIONSHIPS ON OUR OWN TO PROMOTE THIS SPORT.
I WOULD CALL UPON YOU TO STAND STRONG AND DO NOT GIVE WAY TO PRESSURE BECAUSE THIS "IFBB GROUP" IS STILL IN LIMBO BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL, AND THEY HAVE NOT PICKED THE COURAGE TO REPLY THE EMAIL WHICH MR. AXEL BAUER SENT TO THEM.
WHY?
THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE ACCOUNTS OF THE IFBB.
AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE IFBB CORPORATION IS NOT THE SAME AS PUBLISHED IN THEIR WEBSITE???
BE BRAVE AND STAND TALL AGAINST THEIR THREATS AND SUSPENSIONS ..
WE CANNOT BE COWED AROUND.
PLEASE READ THE LETTER SHOWN BELOW AND DIGEST SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW THE ACTUAL REASON WHY MR. RAFAEL SANTONJA IS NOT ANSWERING?
THE IFBB WAS REGISTERED UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME AND ALSO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE IFBB AND THE REGISTERED CORPORATIONS ARE NOT THE SAME.
THIS IS A BUSINESS CORPORATION.
RAFAEL IS SILENCING ME BECAUSE HE IS AFRAID THAT AT THE CONGRESS I WILL CHALLENGE HIM AND HE FEEL THAT BY SUSPENDING ALL MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMIT TE OF THE ABBF , HE CAN DO AS AS HE WISH, NOBODY TO QUESTION HIM.
IF HE IS A BRAVE MAN, HE SHOULD NOT USE THIS DIRTY TACTIC TO SUSPEND ME AND THE ABBF.
THE EXCUSE OF DOPING MATTERS IS A PRETEXT, AND WE WILL WRITE TO WADA AND CHECK IF THIS IS TRUE OR FALSE. IT WAS THE IFFB THAT SET THE PRECEDENT OF REDUCING SUSPENSIONS, AND WE DID WITH THE CONSENT OF THE THE LATE IFBB PRESIDENT AND ALSO RAFAEL AND PAMELA WERE INFORMED. WHY THEY DID NOT OBJECT AT THAT TIME, THEY WENT ALONG WITH THE DECISION WHICH WAS MADE BY BEN.
MORE DOCUMENTS WILL BE EMAILED TO YOU SOON.
WE HAVE SOLID EVIDENCES
IF YOU RECEIVE ANY EMAIL OR LETTER FROM THE" IFBB" PLEASE IGNORE THEM AND CONTACT THE ABBF SECRETARY-GENERAL FOR CLARIFICATION BEFORE YOU REPLY THEM. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE UNITED AND STRONG.
IF YOUR OLYMPIC COMMITTEE OR ANY DEPARTMENTS WERE TO CALL YOU FOR EXPLANATIONS, PLEASE SHOW THEM THESE EMAILS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THE "IFBB" LEGAL STATUS IS IN QUESTION?
AND THEIR FINANCIAL PROBLEM IS IN A MESS.
PRINT OUT ALL THE DOCUMENTS WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN RECEIVING ABOUT THE IFBB LATELY AND HAND OVER TO THEM.
OUR PRESIDENT MR. OSAMA ALSHAFAR HAVE ASKED ME TO TELL YOU THAT WE WILL FIGHT ON WITH THIS DESTRUCTIVE GROUP AND WILL NOT RETREAT.
LONG LIVE ASI
PAUL CHUA
SECRETARY-GENERAL/TREASURER - ABBF


PLEASE READ THE ONES WHICH I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED PRINT...WHERE THE MONEY OF THE IFBB GONE TO??? MYSTERY NEED TO BE SOLVED

WFF secretary service Wrote:

wff_edita Wrote:

wff_edita Wrote:Šiandien gavome laišką iš POLO ČIUA (Paul Chua), antro pagal rangą žmogaus tarptautinėje IFBB veikloje.
Jis kelia IFBB teisinio egzistavimo legalumo klausimą.
Pasak jo, oficialiai registruota komercinė firma, kuri net vadinasi kitu vardu, pristatoma visuomenei kaip tarptautinė IFBB federacija.
IFBB konstitucija (įstatai), kurie paviešinti oficialiame IFBB interneto puslapyje, visai kiti, negu yra iš tikro.
IFBB – tai tik komercinė firma ir nieko daugiau.
P.ČIUA kaltina RAFAELĮ SANTOCHĄ, kad šis vengia viešo klausimo svarstymo, neatsako į oficialiai pateiktus juridinius ir finansinius klausimus.
Tačiau tikri IFBB patriotai eis iki galo ir parodys viską taip, kaip yra iš tikro.
Tam jau kreiptasi į Ispanijos ir Kanados policiją, išsiųsti dokumentai į WADA asociaciją.

DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE ABBF
I FEEL IT IS MY DUTY TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND AS TO WHY THE "IFBB" IS ACTING DESPERATELY TO REMOVE ME AND TO SUSPEND ALL OUR ABBF EXECUTIVE MEMBERS FOR ONE YEAR AS PER THE CIRCULAR LETTER SENT BY ADEL FAHIM, "EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE IFBB PRESIDENT" A COPY OF WHICH I HAVE WITH ME WRITTEN IN ARABIC AND TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH.
ANOTHER LETTER WAS SENT BY WILLIAM TIERNEY AS WELL.
RAFAEL AVOIDED IN SENDING THIS EMAIL AS HE KNOW THE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES INVOLVED.
HE CANNOT SIMPLY SUSPEND A CONTINENTAL FEDERATION, SINCE THEIR HOUSE IS NOT IN ORDER AND THEY HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER US, WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT THEM.
ABBF UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED BY MANY ASIAN COUNTRIES, AND IF A COMMITTEE IS FORMED BY RAFAEL'S GROUP WE WILL ELIMINATE THEM.
WE HAVE SPOKEN TO OUR LAWYERS IN LONDON AND THEY HAVE ASKED US TO CONTINUE WITH OUR WORK, AND IF RAFAEL AND HIS GROUP DISTURB US WE WILL TAKE LEGAL ACTION, THEY CANNOT DICTATATE AS WE HAD ALREADY PROCEEDED WITH OUR LEGAL PROCEEDINGS LAST MONTH.
THERE WAS NO NATURAL JUSTICE AND NO FAIR HEARING GIVEN TO ALL OF US.
IN THIS DEMOCRATIC AND CIVILISED WORLD NO INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION WILL SUSPEND A CONTINENTAL FEDERATION OR ITS EXECUTIVE MEMBERS WITHOUT A FAIR HEARING.
THEY SUSPENDED US BECAUSE OF THE 2005 DOPING CASES.
WE DID SUSPEND ALL THE ATHLETES AND EXCEPT FOR THE 3 HONGKONG ATHLETES THEIR SUSPENSION WERE REDUCED FROM 2 YEARS TO A YEAR WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE LATE BEN WEIDER AND THE IFBB. WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THE LATE BEN WEIDER TO PROVE. IFBB ALSO REDUCED THE SUSPENSION OF 2 ATHLETES FROM QATAR BY ACCEPTING US$10,000 FOR EACH OFFENCE FROM 2 YEARS TO 8 MONTHS. I HAVE ALL THE PAPERS WITH ME TO SHOW PROOF.
ABBF WILL NOT BE THE SERVANT OF THE "IFBB" NO MATTER WHAT, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR DUTY AND ACTIVITIES AS USUAL AND WE WILL ORGANISE OUR CHAMPIONSHIPS ON OUR OWN TO PROMOTE THIS SPORT.
I WOULD CALL UPON YOU TO STAND STRONG AND DO NOT GIVE WAY TO PRESSURE BECAUSE THIS "IFBB GROUP" IS STILL IN LIMBO BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL, AND THEY HAVE NOT PICKED THE COURAGE TO REPLY THE EMAIL WHICH MR. AXEL BAUER SENT TO THEM.
WHY?
THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE ACCOUNTS OF THE IFBB.
AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE IFBB CORPORATION IS NOT THE SAME AS PUBLISHED IN THEIR WEBSITE???
BE BRAVE AND STAND TALL AGAINST THEIR THREATS AND SUSPENSIONS ..
WE CANNOT BE COWED AROUND.
PLEASE READ THE LETTER SHOWN BELOW AND DIGEST SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW THE ACTUAL REASON WHY MR. RAFAEL SANTONJA IS NOT ANSWERING?
THE IFBB WAS REGISTERED UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME AND ALSO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE IFBB AND THE REGISTERED CORPORATIONS ARE NOT THE SAME.
THIS IS A BUSINESS CORPORATION.
RAFAEL IS SILENCING ME BECAUSE HE IS AFRAID THAT AT THE CONGRESS I WILL CHALLENGE HIM AND HE FEEL THAT BY SUSPENDING ALL MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMIT TE OF THE ABBF , HE CAN DO AS AS HE WISH, NOBODY TO QUESTION HIM.
IF HE IS A BRAVE MAN, HE SHOULD NOT USE THIS DIRTY TACTIC TO SUSPEND ME AND THE ABBF.
THE EXCUSE OF DOPING MATTERS IS A PRETEXT, AND WE WILL WRITE TO WADA AND CHECK IF THIS IS TRUE OR FALSE. IT WAS THE IFFB THAT SET THE PRECEDENT OF REDUCING SUSPENSIONS, AND WE DID WITH THE CONSENT OF THE THE LATE IFBB PRESIDENT AND ALSO RAFAEL AND PAMELA WERE INFORMED. WHY THEY DID NOT OBJECT AT THAT TIME, THEY WENT ALONG WITH THE DECISION WHICH WAS MADE BY BEN.
MORE DOCUMENTS WILL BE EMAILED TO YOU SOON.
WE HAVE SOLID EVIDENCES
IF YOU RECEIVE ANY EMAIL OR LETTER FROM THE" IFBB" PLEASE IGNORE THEM AND CONTACT THE ABBF SECRETARY-GENERAL FOR CLARIFICATION BEFORE YOU REPLY THEM. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE UNITED AND STRONG.
IF YOUR OLYMPIC COMMITTEE OR ANY DEPARTMENTS WERE TO CALL YOU FOR EXPLANATIONS, PLEASE SHOW THEM THESE EMAILS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THE "IFBB" LEGAL STATUS IS IN QUESTION?
AND THEIR FINANCIAL PROBLEM IS IN A MESS.
PRINT OUT ALL THE DOCUMENTS WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN RECEIVING ABOUT THE IFBB LATELY AND HAND OVER TO THEM.
OUR PRESIDENT MR. OSAMA ALSHAFAR HAVE ASKED ME TO TELL YOU THAT WE WILL FIGHT ON WITH THIS DESTRUCTIVE GROUP AND WILL NOT RETREAT.
LONG LIVE ASI
PAUL CHUA
SECRETARY-GENERAL/TREASURER - ABBF


PLEASE READ THE ONES WHICH I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED PRINT...WHERE THE MONEY OF THE IFBB GONE TO??? MYSTERY NEED TO BE SOLVED

SUVESKIME REZULTATUS
Dar kartą norime pabrėžti faktą, kad šiandien tik pasaulinės WFF ir WBBF federacijos yra vienintelės pasaulyje tarptautinės nesiekiančios pelno sporto organizacijos (kalbame apie fitnesą ir kultūrizmą).
Negi manote, kad yra įmanomas bet koks oficialus bendravimas tarp tarptautinių organizacijų, kaip IOC, WADA, GAISF ir pan. su save vadinančiomis „tarptautinėmis federacijomis ar asociacijomis“, kurios iš tikro juridiškai yra privačios korporacijos, komercinės firmos (tokių dauguma pasaulyje), ar sporto klubai (kaip NABBA), ar net išvis grupelė privačių žmonių (fizinių asmenų), save įvardinančių „tarptautine federacija“?
Juridinė ESMĖ yra tai, o visa kita seka tik po to (jei išvis seka).

Vilija Wrote:

wff_edita Wrote:

wff_edita Wrote:Šiandien gavome laišką iš POLO ČIUA (Paul Chua), antro pagal rangą žmogaus tarptautinėje IFBB veikloje.
Jis kelia IFBB teisinio egzistavimo legalumo klausimą.
Pasak jo, oficialiai registruota komercinė firma, kuri net vadinasi kitu vardu, pristatoma visuomenei kaip tarptautinė IFBB federacija.
IFBB konstitucija (įstatai), kurie paviešinti oficialiame IFBB interneto puslapyje, visai kiti, negu yra iš tikro.
IFBB – tai tik komercinė firma ir nieko daugiau.
P.ČIUA kaltina RAFAELĮ SANTOCHĄ, kad šis vengia viešo klausimo svarstymo, neatsako į oficialiai pateiktus juridinius ir finansinius klausimus.
Tačiau tikri IFBB patriotai eis iki galo ir parodys viską taip, kaip yra iš tikro.
Tam jau kreiptasi į Ispanijos ir Kanados policiją, išsiųsti dokumentai į WADA asociaciją.

DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE ABBF
I FEEL IT IS MY DUTY TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND AS TO WHY THE "IFBB" IS ACTING DESPERATELY TO REMOVE ME AND TO SUSPEND ALL OUR ABBF EXECUTIVE MEMBERS FOR ONE YEAR AS PER THE CIRCULAR LETTER SENT BY ADEL FAHIM, "EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE IFBB PRESIDENT" A COPY OF WHICH I HAVE WITH ME WRITTEN IN ARABIC AND TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH.
ANOTHER LETTER WAS SENT BY WILLIAM TIERNEY AS WELL.
RAFAEL AVOIDED IN SENDING THIS EMAIL AS HE KNOW THE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES INVOLVED.
HE CANNOT SIMPLY SUSPEND A CONTINENTAL FEDERATION, SINCE THEIR HOUSE IS NOT IN ORDER AND THEY HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER US, WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT THEM.
ABBF UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED BY MANY ASIAN COUNTRIES, AND IF A COMMITTEE IS FORMED BY RAFAEL'S GROUP WE WILL ELIMINATE THEM.
WE HAVE SPOKEN TO OUR LAWYERS IN LONDON AND THEY HAVE ASKED US TO CONTINUE WITH OUR WORK, AND IF RAFAEL AND HIS GROUP DISTURB US WE WILL TAKE LEGAL ACTION, THEY CANNOT DICTATATE AS WE HAD ALREADY PROCEEDED WITH OUR LEGAL PROCEEDINGS LAST MONTH.
THERE WAS NO NATURAL JUSTICE AND NO FAIR HEARING GIVEN TO ALL OF US.
IN THIS DEMOCRATIC AND CIVILISED WORLD NO INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION WILL SUSPEND A CONTINENTAL FEDERATION OR ITS EXECUTIVE MEMBERS WITHOUT A FAIR HEARING.
THEY SUSPENDED US BECAUSE OF THE 2005 DOPING CASES.
WE DID SUSPEND ALL THE ATHLETES AND EXCEPT FOR THE 3 HONGKONG ATHLETES THEIR SUSPENSION WERE REDUCED FROM 2 YEARS TO A YEAR WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE LATE BEN WEIDER AND THE IFBB. WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THE LATE BEN WEIDER TO PROVE. IFBB ALSO REDUCED THE SUSPENSION OF 2 ATHLETES FROM QATAR BY ACCEPTING US$10,000 FOR EACH OFFENCE FROM 2 YEARS TO 8 MONTHS. I HAVE ALL THE PAPERS WITH ME TO SHOW PROOF.
ABBF WILL NOT BE THE SERVANT OF THE "IFBB" NO MATTER WHAT, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR DUTY AND ACTIVITIES AS USUAL AND WE WILL ORGANISE OUR CHAMPIONSHIPS ON OUR OWN TO PROMOTE THIS SPORT.
I WOULD CALL UPON YOU TO STAND STRONG AND DO NOT GIVE WAY TO PRESSURE BECAUSE THIS "IFBB GROUP" IS STILL IN LIMBO BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL, AND THEY HAVE NOT PICKED THE COURAGE TO REPLY THE EMAIL WHICH MR. AXEL BAUER SENT TO THEM.
WHY?
THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE ACCOUNTS OF THE IFBB.
AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE IFBB CORPORATION IS NOT THE SAME AS PUBLISHED IN THEIR WEBSITE???
BE BRAVE AND STAND TALL AGAINST THEIR THREATS AND SUSPENSIONS ..
WE CANNOT BE COWED AROUND.
PLEASE READ THE LETTER SHOWN BELOW AND DIGEST SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW THE ACTUAL REASON WHY MR. RAFAEL SANTONJA IS NOT ANSWERING?
THE IFBB WAS REGISTERED UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME AND ALSO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE IFBB AND THE REGISTERED CORPORATIONS ARE NOT THE SAME.
THIS IS A BUSINESS CORPORATION.
RAFAEL IS SILENCING ME BECAUSE HE IS AFRAID THAT AT THE CONGRESS I WILL CHALLENGE HIM AND HE FEEL THAT BY SUSPENDING ALL MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMIT TE OF THE ABBF , HE CAN DO AS AS HE WISH, NOBODY TO QUESTION HIM.
IF HE IS A BRAVE MAN, HE SHOULD NOT USE THIS DIRTY TACTIC TO SUSPEND ME AND THE ABBF.
THE EXCUSE OF DOPING MATTERS IS A PRETEXT, AND WE WILL WRITE TO WADA AND CHECK IF THIS IS TRUE OR FALSE. IT WAS THE IFFB THAT SET THE PRECEDENT OF REDUCING SUSPENSIONS, AND WE DID WITH THE CONSENT OF THE THE LATE IFBB PRESIDENT AND ALSO RAFAEL AND PAMELA WERE INFORMED. WHY THEY DID NOT OBJECT AT THAT TIME, THEY WENT ALONG WITH THE DECISION WHICH WAS MADE BY BEN.
MORE DOCUMENTS WILL BE EMAILED TO YOU SOON.
WE HAVE SOLID EVIDENCES
IF YOU RECEIVE ANY EMAIL OR LETTER FROM THE" IFBB" PLEASE IGNORE THEM AND CONTACT THE ABBF SECRETARY-GENERAL FOR CLARIFICATION BEFORE YOU REPLY THEM. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE UNITED AND STRONG.
IF YOUR OLYMPIC COMMITTEE OR ANY DEPARTMENTS WERE TO CALL YOU FOR EXPLANATIONS, PLEASE SHOW THEM THESE EMAILS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THE "IFBB" LEGAL STATUS IS IN QUESTION?
AND THEIR FINANCIAL PROBLEM IS IN A MESS.
PRINT OUT ALL THE DOCUMENTS WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN RECEIVING ABOUT THE IFBB LATELY AND HAND OVER TO THEM.
OUR PRESIDENT MR. OSAMA ALSHAFAR HAVE ASKED ME TO TELL YOU THAT WE WILL FIGHT ON WITH THIS DESTRUCTIVE GROUP AND WILL NOT RETREAT.
LONG LIVE ASI
PAUL CHUA
SECRETARY-GENERAL/TREASURER - ABBF


PLEASE READ THE ONES WHICH I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED PRINT...WHERE THE MONEY OF THE IFBB GONE TO??? MYSTERY NEED TO BE SOLVED

yra apie ka pagalvoti. :?:

edmundas daubaras Wrote:KOMERCINĖS FIRMOS AR SPORTO ISTORIJA??

Kadaise, kai pasaulį dalino „geležinė uždanga“, kultūrizmo ir fitneso sportas vystėsi izoliuotai abipus šių sienų. Informacijos nebuvo arba ji buvo sąmoningai slepiama.
Užjūrio komersantai savo prekybines firmas-korporacijas pavadino „pasaulinėmis federacijomis“ ir atėjo į visus kontinentus nešini „saldainiukais“ ir blizgučiais, kaip kadaise Kristupas Kolumbas atvyko į Ameriką.
Įvairių kontinentų „aborigenai“ šiuos saldainiukus prarijo nekramtydami ir aklai patikėjo komercinės firmos pasakomis.
Kad „saldainiukai“ būtų gausiai perkami ir valgomi, šios firmos sukūrė daug „Šecherezados“ pasakų, kurias pamėgo naivūs sportininkai.
Su savimi komercinės firmos atsinešė įvairiausius sporto žurnalus, kurie iš tikro buvo reklaminiai jų gaminamų prekių katalogai.
Garsūs sportininkai už „saldainiukus“ reklamavo šias komercines firmas-federacijas, o nemąstantys fanatiški propagandininkai mušėsi į krūtinę ir kvietė visus melstis menamoms vertybėms ir taip metai iš metų melo kamuolys augo.
Ilgai spėliojus ir diskutavus, paskutiniu metu, o ypač 2009 metais, pasirodė faktinė dokumentinė medžiaga, liudijanti, kad po tarptautinių sporto federacijų priedanga veikė ir iki šiol veikia kelių privačių asmenų komercinės firmos, mulkinusios mus visus, įvairių šalių valdžią, tokias tarptautines organizacijas, kaip IOC, WADA, GAISF ir t.t..
Laikas peržiūrėti apgaulingą sporto istoriją ir atstatyti kiek įmanomą teisingumą.

WFF secretary service Wrote:

wff_edita Wrote:

wff_edita Wrote:Šiandien gavome laišką iš POLO ČIUA (Paul Chua), antro pagal rangą žmogaus tarptautinėje IFBB veikloje.
Jis kelia IFBB teisinio egzistavimo legalumo klausimą.
Pasak jo, oficialiai registruota komercinė firma, kuri net vadinasi kitu vardu, pristatoma visuomenei kaip tarptautinė IFBB federacija.
IFBB konstitucija (įstatai), kurie paviešinti oficialiame IFBB interneto puslapyje, visai kiti, negu yra iš tikro.
IFBB – tai tik komercinė firma ir nieko daugiau.
P.ČIUA kaltina RAFAELĮ SANTOCHĄ, kad šis vengia viešo klausimo svarstymo, neatsako į oficialiai pateiktus juridinius ir finansinius klausimus.
Tačiau tikri IFBB patriotai eis iki galo ir parodys viską taip, kaip yra iš tikro.
Tam jau kreiptasi į Ispanijos ir Kanados policiją, išsiųsti dokumentai į WADA asociaciją.

DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE ABBF
I FEEL IT IS MY DUTY TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND AS TO WHY THE "IFBB" IS ACTING DESPERATELY TO REMOVE ME AND TO SUSPEND ALL OUR ABBF EXECUTIVE MEMBERS FOR ONE YEAR AS PER THE CIRCULAR LETTER SENT BY ADEL FAHIM, "EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE IFBB PRESIDENT" A COPY OF WHICH I HAVE WITH ME WRITTEN IN ARABIC AND TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH.
ANOTHER LETTER WAS SENT BY WILLIAM TIERNEY AS WELL.
RAFAEL AVOIDED IN SENDING THIS EMAIL AS HE KNOW THE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES INVOLVED.
HE CANNOT SIMPLY SUSPEND A CONTINENTAL FEDERATION, SINCE THEIR HOUSE IS NOT IN ORDER AND THEY HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER US, WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT THEM.
ABBF UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED BY MANY ASIAN COUNTRIES, AND IF A COMMITTEE IS FORMED BY RAFAEL'S GROUP WE WILL ELIMINATE THEM.
WE HAVE SPOKEN TO OUR LAWYERS IN LONDON AND THEY HAVE ASKED US TO CONTINUE WITH OUR WORK, AND IF RAFAEL AND HIS GROUP DISTURB US WE WILL TAKE LEGAL ACTION, THEY CANNOT DICTATATE AS WE HAD ALREADY PROCEEDED WITH OUR LEGAL PROCEEDINGS LAST MONTH.
THERE WAS NO NATURAL JUSTICE AND NO FAIR HEARING GIVEN TO ALL OF US.
IN THIS DEMOCRATIC AND CIVILISED WORLD NO INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION WILL SUSPEND A CONTINENTAL FEDERATION OR ITS EXECUTIVE MEMBERS WITHOUT A FAIR HEARING.
THEY SUSPENDED US BECAUSE OF THE 2005 DOPING CASES.
WE DID SUSPEND ALL THE ATHLETES AND EXCEPT FOR THE 3 HONGKONG ATHLETES THEIR SUSPENSION WERE REDUCED FROM 2 YEARS TO A YEAR WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE LATE BEN WEIDER AND THE IFBB. WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THE LATE BEN WEIDER TO PROVE. IFBB ALSO REDUCED THE SUSPENSION OF 2 ATHLETES FROM QATAR BY ACCEPTING US$10,000 FOR EACH OFFENCE FROM 2 YEARS TO 8 MONTHS. I HAVE ALL THE PAPERS WITH ME TO SHOW PROOF.
ABBF WILL NOT BE THE SERVANT OF THE "IFBB" NO MATTER WHAT, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR DUTY AND ACTIVITIES AS USUAL AND WE WILL ORGANISE OUR CHAMPIONSHIPS ON OUR OWN TO PROMOTE THIS SPORT.
I WOULD CALL UPON YOU TO STAND STRONG AND DO NOT GIVE WAY TO PRESSURE BECAUSE THIS "IFBB GROUP" IS STILL IN LIMBO BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL, AND THEY HAVE NOT PICKED THE COURAGE TO REPLY THE EMAIL WHICH MR. AXEL BAUER SENT TO THEM.
WHY?
THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE ACCOUNTS OF THE IFBB.
AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE IFBB CORPORATION IS NOT THE SAME AS PUBLISHED IN THEIR WEBSITE???
BE BRAVE AND STAND TALL AGAINST THEIR THREATS AND SUSPENSIONS ..
WE CANNOT BE COWED AROUND.
PLEASE READ THE LETTER SHOWN BELOW AND DIGEST SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW THE ACTUAL REASON WHY MR. RAFAEL SANTONJA IS NOT ANSWERING?
THE IFBB WAS REGISTERED UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME AND ALSO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE IFBB AND THE REGISTERED CORPORATIONS ARE NOT THE SAME.
THIS IS A BUSINESS CORPORATION.
RAFAEL IS SILENCING ME BECAUSE HE IS AFRAID THAT AT THE CONGRESS I WILL CHALLENGE HIM AND HE FEEL THAT BY SUSPENDING ALL MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMIT TE OF THE ABBF , HE CAN DO AS AS HE WISH, NOBODY TO QUESTION HIM.
IF HE IS A BRAVE MAN, HE SHOULD NOT USE THIS DIRTY TACTIC TO SUSPEND ME AND THE ABBF.
THE EXCUSE OF DOPING MATTERS IS A PRETEXT, AND WE WILL WRITE TO WADA AND CHECK IF THIS IS TRUE OR FALSE. IT WAS THE IFFB THAT SET THE PRECEDENT OF REDUCING SUSPENSIONS, AND WE DID WITH THE CONSENT OF THE THE LATE IFBB PRESIDENT AND ALSO RAFAEL AND PAMELA WERE INFORMED. WHY THEY DID NOT OBJECT AT THAT TIME, THEY WENT ALONG WITH THE DECISION WHICH WAS MADE BY BEN.
MORE DOCUMENTS WILL BE EMAILED TO YOU SOON.
WE HAVE SOLID EVIDENCES
IF YOU RECEIVE ANY EMAIL OR LETTER FROM THE" IFBB" PLEASE IGNORE THEM AND CONTACT THE ABBF SECRETARY-GENERAL FOR CLARIFICATION BEFORE YOU REPLY THEM. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE UNITED AND STRONG.
IF YOUR OLYMPIC COMMITTEE OR ANY DEPARTMENTS WERE TO CALL YOU FOR EXPLANATIONS, PLEASE SHOW THEM THESE EMAILS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THE "IFBB" LEGAL STATUS IS IN QUESTION?
AND THEIR FINANCIAL PROBLEM IS IN A MESS.
PRINT OUT ALL THE DOCUMENTS WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN RECEIVING ABOUT THE IFBB LATELY AND HAND OVER TO THEM.
OUR PRESIDENT MR. OSAMA ALSHAFAR HAVE ASKED ME TO TELL YOU THAT WE WILL FIGHT ON WITH THIS DESTRUCTIVE GROUP AND WILL NOT RETREAT.
LONG LIVE ASI
PAUL CHUA
SECRETARY-GENERAL/TREASURER - ABBF


PLEASE READ THE ONES WHICH I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED PRINT...WHERE THE MONEY OF THE IFBB GONE TO??? MYSTERY NEED TO BE SOLVED

SUVESKIME REZULTATUS
Dar kartą norime pabrėžti faktą, kad šiandien tik pasaulinės WFF ir WBBF federacijos yra vienintelės pasaulyje tarptautinės nesiekiančios pelno sporto organizacijos (kalbame apie fitnesą ir kultūrizmą).
Negi manote, kad yra įmanomas bet koks oficialus bendravimas tarp tarptautinių organizacijų, kaip IOC, WADA, GAISF ir pan. su save vadinančiomis „tarptautinėmis federacijomis ar asociacijomis“, kurios iš tikro juridiškai yra privačios korporacijos, komercinės firmos (tokių dauguma pasaulyje), ar sporto klubai (kaip NABBA), ar net išvis grupelė privačių žmonių (fizinių asmenų), save įvardinančių „tarptautine federacija“?
Juridinė ESMĖ yra tai, o visa kita seka tik po to (jei išvis seka).

Tomas Wrote:

WFF secretary service Wrote:

wff_edita Wrote:

wff_edita Wrote:Šiandien gavome laišką iš POLO ČIUA (Paul Chua), antro pagal rangą žmogaus tarptautinėje IFBB veikloje.
Jis kelia IFBB teisinio egzistavimo legalumo klausimą.
Pasak jo, oficialiai registruota komercinė firma, kuri net vadinasi kitu vardu, pristatoma visuomenei kaip tarptautinė IFBB federacija.
IFBB konstitucija (įstatai), kurie paviešinti oficialiame IFBB interneto puslapyje, visai kiti, negu yra iš tikro.
IFBB – tai tik komercinė firma ir nieko daugiau.
P.ČIUA kaltina RAFAELĮ SANTOCHĄ, kad šis vengia viešo klausimo svarstymo, neatsako į oficialiai pateiktus juridinius ir finansinius klausimus.
Tačiau tikri IFBB patriotai eis iki galo ir parodys viską taip, kaip yra iš tikro.
Tam jau kreiptasi į Ispanijos ir Kanados policiją, išsiųsti dokumentai į WADA asociaciją.

DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE ABBF
I FEEL IT IS MY DUTY TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND AS TO WHY THE "IFBB" IS ACTING DESPERATELY TO REMOVE ME AND TO SUSPEND ALL OUR ABBF EXECUTIVE MEMBERS FOR ONE YEAR AS PER THE CIRCULAR LETTER SENT BY ADEL FAHIM, "EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE IFBB PRESIDENT" A COPY OF WHICH I HAVE WITH ME WRITTEN IN ARABIC AND TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH.
ANOTHER LETTER WAS SENT BY WILLIAM TIERNEY AS WELL.
RAFAEL AVOIDED IN SENDING THIS EMAIL AS HE KNOW THE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES INVOLVED.
HE CANNOT SIMPLY SUSPEND A CONTINENTAL FEDERATION, SINCE THEIR HOUSE IS NOT IN ORDER AND THEY HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER US, WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT THEM.
ABBF UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED BY MANY ASIAN COUNTRIES, AND IF A COMMITTEE IS FORMED BY RAFAEL'S GROUP WE WILL ELIMINATE THEM.
WE HAVE SPOKEN TO OUR LAWYERS IN LONDON AND THEY HAVE ASKED US TO CONTINUE WITH OUR WORK, AND IF RAFAEL AND HIS GROUP DISTURB US WE WILL TAKE LEGAL ACTION, THEY CANNOT DICTATATE AS WE HAD ALREADY PROCEEDED WITH OUR LEGAL PROCEEDINGS LAST MONTH.
THERE WAS NO NATURAL JUSTICE AND NO FAIR HEARING GIVEN TO ALL OF US.
IN THIS DEMOCRATIC AND CIVILISED WORLD NO INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION WILL SUSPEND A CONTINENTAL FEDERATION OR ITS EXECUTIVE MEMBERS WITHOUT A FAIR HEARING.
THEY SUSPENDED US BECAUSE OF THE 2005 DOPING CASES.
WE DID SUSPEND ALL THE ATHLETES AND EXCEPT FOR THE 3 HONGKONG ATHLETES THEIR SUSPENSION WERE REDUCED FROM 2 YEARS TO A YEAR WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE LATE BEN WEIDER AND THE IFBB. WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THE LATE BEN WEIDER TO PROVE. IFBB ALSO REDUCED THE SUSPENSION OF 2 ATHLETES FROM QATAR BY ACCEPTING US$10,000 FOR EACH OFFENCE FROM 2 YEARS TO 8 MONTHS. I HAVE ALL THE PAPERS WITH ME TO SHOW PROOF.
ABBF WILL NOT BE THE SERVANT OF THE "IFBB" NO MATTER WHAT, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR DUTY AND ACTIVITIES AS USUAL AND WE WILL ORGANISE OUR CHAMPIONSHIPS ON OUR OWN TO PROMOTE THIS SPORT.
I WOULD CALL UPON YOU TO STAND STRONG AND DO NOT GIVE WAY TO PRESSURE BECAUSE THIS "IFBB GROUP" IS STILL IN LIMBO BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL, AND THEY HAVE NOT PICKED THE COURAGE TO REPLY THE EMAIL WHICH MR. AXEL BAUER SENT TO THEM.
WHY?
THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE ACCOUNTS OF THE IFBB.
AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE IFBB CORPORATION IS NOT THE SAME AS PUBLISHED IN THEIR WEBSITE???
BE BRAVE AND STAND TALL AGAINST THEIR THREATS AND SUSPENSIONS ..
WE CANNOT BE COWED AROUND.
PLEASE READ THE LETTER SHOWN BELOW AND DIGEST SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW THE ACTUAL REASON WHY MR. RAFAEL SANTONJA IS NOT ANSWERING?
THE IFBB WAS REGISTERED UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME AND ALSO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE IFBB AND THE REGISTERED CORPORATIONS ARE NOT THE SAME.
THIS IS A BUSINESS CORPORATION.
RAFAEL IS SILENCING ME BECAUSE HE IS AFRAID THAT AT THE CONGRESS I WILL CHALLENGE HIM AND HE FEEL THAT BY SUSPENDING ALL MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMIT TE OF THE ABBF , HE CAN DO AS AS HE WISH, NOBODY TO QUESTION HIM.
IF HE IS A BRAVE MAN, HE SHOULD NOT USE THIS DIRTY TACTIC TO SUSPEND ME AND THE ABBF.
THE EXCUSE OF DOPING MATTERS IS A PRETEXT, AND WE WILL WRITE TO WADA AND CHECK IF THIS IS TRUE OR FALSE. IT WAS THE IFFB THAT SET THE PRECEDENT OF REDUCING SUSPENSIONS, AND WE DID WITH THE CONSENT OF THE THE LATE IFBB PRESIDENT AND ALSO RAFAEL AND PAMELA WERE INFORMED. WHY THEY DID NOT OBJECT AT THAT TIME, THEY WENT ALONG WITH THE DECISION WHICH WAS MADE BY BEN.
MORE DOCUMENTS WILL BE EMAILED TO YOU SOON.
WE HAVE SOLID EVIDENCES
IF YOU RECEIVE ANY EMAIL OR LETTER FROM THE" IFBB" PLEASE IGNORE THEM AND CONTACT THE ABBF SECRETARY-GENERAL FOR CLARIFICATION BEFORE YOU REPLY THEM. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE UNITED AND STRONG.
IF YOUR OLYMPIC COMMITTEE OR ANY DEPARTMENTS WERE TO CALL YOU FOR EXPLANATIONS, PLEASE SHOW THEM THESE EMAILS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THE "IFBB" LEGAL STATUS IS IN QUESTION?
AND THEIR FINANCIAL PROBLEM IS IN A MESS.
PRINT OUT ALL THE DOCUMENTS WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN RECEIVING ABOUT THE IFBB LATELY AND HAND OVER TO THEM.
OUR PRESIDENT MR. OSAMA ALSHAFAR HAVE ASKED ME TO TELL YOU THAT WE WILL FIGHT ON WITH THIS DESTRUCTIVE GROUP AND WILL NOT RETREAT.
LONG LIVE ASI
PAUL CHUA
SECRETARY-GENERAL/TREASURER - ABBF


PLEASE READ THE ONES WHICH I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED PRINT...WHERE THE MONEY OF THE IFBB GONE TO??? MYSTERY NEED TO BE SOLVED

SUVESKIME REZULTATUS
Dar kartą norime pabrėžti faktą, kad šiandien tik pasaulinės WFF ir WBBF federacijos yra vienintelės pasaulyje tarptautinės nesiekiančios pelno sporto organizacijos (kalbame apie fitnesą ir kultūrizmą).
Negi manote, kad yra įmanomas bet koks oficialus bendravimas tarp tarptautinių organizacijų, kaip IOC, WADA, GAISF ir pan. su save vadinančiomis „tarptautinėmis federacijomis ar asociacijomis“, kurios iš tikro juridiškai yra privačios korporacijos, komercinės firmos (tokių dauguma pasaulyje), ar sporto klubai (kaip NABBA), ar net išvis grupelė privačių žmonių (fizinių asmenų), save įvardinančių „tarptautine federacija“?
Juridinė ESMĖ yra tai, o visa kita seka tik po to (jei išvis seka).

siap tai ne kiekvienai galvelei visa tai daeina?

WFF secretary service Wrote:Savaitę buvome užimti kelionėmis, susitikimais ir WFF-WBBF varžybomis Europoje.
Per tą laiką mūsų sporto pasaulyje įvyko daug svarbių įvykių, kuriuos papasakosime kiek vėliau.
Šiandien gavome IFBB vice prezidento PAUL CHUA iš Singapūro ir Azijos šalių federacijos laiškus.
Kol kas pateikiame oficialų dokumentą ir vakarykštę publikaciją spaudoje Azijos šalims, įrodančius, kad IFBB nėra tarptautinė sporto federacija, o yra tik komercinė firma:

abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg Vice President IFBB-International PAUL CHUA sent us for publication the new press info that goes to all Asia Countries about the IFBB.
19/4/09, Mohammed AbdulRahim Abdulla <MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh> wrote::
THE IFBB CORPORATION IS EXPOSED NUDELY TO THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.

WFF secretary service Wrote:Savaitę buvome užimti kelionėmis, susitikimais ir WFF-WBBF varžybomis Europoje.
Per tą laiką mūsų sporto pasaulyje įvyko daug svarbių įvykių, kuriuos papasakosime kiek vėliau.
Šiandien gavome IFBB vice prezidento PAUL CHUA iš Singapūro ir Azijos šalių federacijos laiškus.
Kol kas pateikiame oficialų dokumentą ir vakarykštę publikaciją spaudoje Azijos šalims, įrodančius, kad IFBB nėra tarptautinė sporto federacija, o yra tik komercinė firma:

abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg Vice President IFBB-International PAUL CHUA sent us for publication the new press info that goes to all Asia Countries about the IFBB.
19/4/09, Mohammed AbdulRahim Abdulla <MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh> wrote::
THE IFBB CORPORATION IS EXPOSED NUDELY TO THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.