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IFBB/EFBB finansinės aferos
WFF-WBBF Headquarters Int Wrote:Neseniai gavome laišką iš Singapūro.
IFBB vice prezidentas POLAS ČIUA rašo, kad 25 Azijos kontinento šalys pasirengusios tapti Pasaulinės WFF-WBBF federacijos narėmis:


We received a letter from Singapore.
Vice President IFBB-International CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

WBBF'S CO-OPERATION WITH ABBF FOR HARMONY AND PEACE

Dear Edmundas
About 25 Asian countries would like to join your federation and we need to know about your Constitution and Bylaws urgently. We have an Emergency Meeting from 21 - 23 April, 2009 in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
Please get back to me urgently before this date.
Thank you,
Your friend,
Paul Chua


Čia dar šiek tiek informacijos apie IFBB reikalus, kuri paimta iš IFBB vice prezidento POLO ČIUA (Singapūras) susirašinėjimo su Pasaulinės WFF-WBBF federacijos prezidentu E.DAUBARU.
Įdomus faktas, kad IFBB federaciją-korporaciją palieka daug nacionalinių federacijų, kurias remia ir palaiko Nacionaliniai olimpiniai komitetai ir šalių vyriausybės:


Dear ED,
Thank you very much for your nice letter.
We have now 25 to 28 countries members of their respective Olympic Committees and recognised by their governments and they must be clear about WBBF's direction and I think we need to speak on this openly.
I look forward to hear from you.
Please let me know when I can phone you and at which number.
We are having an Emergency ABBF Special Congress on 23rd April, 2009 in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia and we will make the decision in this meeting.
Regards,
Paul
WFF-International Official Information Only
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WFF secretary service Wrote:
WFF-WBBF Headquarters Int Wrote:Neseniai gavome laišką iš Singapūro.
IFBB vice prezidentas POLAS ČIUA rašo, kad 25 Azijos kontinento šalys pasirengusios tapti Pasaulinės WFF-WBBF federacijos narėmis:


We received a letter from Singapore.
Vice President IFBB-International CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

WBBF'S CO-OPERATION WITH ABBF FOR HARMONY AND PEACE

Dear Edmundas
About 25 Asian countries would like to join your federation and we need to know about your Constitution and Bylaws urgently. We have an Emergency Meeting from 21 - 23 April, 2009 in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
Please get back to me urgently before this date.
Thank you,
Your friend,
Paul Chua


Čia dar šiek tiek informacijos apie IFBB reikalus, kuri paimta iš IFBB vice prezidento POLO ČIUA (Singapūras) susirašinėjimo su Pasaulinės WFF-WBBF federacijos prezidentu E.DAUBARU.
Įdomus faktas, kad IFBB federaciją-korporaciją palieka daug nacionalinių federacijų, kurias remia ir palaiko Nacionaliniai olimpiniai komitetai ir šalių vyriausybės:


Dear ED,
Thank you very much for your nice letter.
We have now 25 to 28 countries members of their respective Olympic Committees and recognised by their governments and they must be clear about WBBF's direction and I think we need to speak on this openly.
I look forward to hear from you.
Please let me know when I can phone you and at which number.
We are having an Emergency ABBF Special Congress on 23rd April, 2009 in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia and we will make the decision in this meeting.
Regards,
Paul

Šiandien gavome laišką iš Singapūro.
IFBB vice prezidentas POLAS ČIUA linki sėkmingo Europos čempionato Klaipėdoje.
Artimiausiu metu jis dėl IFBB juridinių klausimų sprendimo lankysis Londone.
Jis pasirengęs susitikti su Pasaulinės WFF-WBBF federacijos prezidentu EDMUNDU DAUBARU abiems patogiu laiku.


We received a letter from Singapore.
Vice President IFBB CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

WBBF'S CO-OPERATION WITH ABBF FOR HARMONY AND PEACE

Dear ED
I am in full agreement with you.
We should meet soon and I will let you know when and where.
Meanwhile, I wish you great success in your forthcoming championships.
I will be in London within these 10 days and after that we can fly and meet you or you come to London whichever is convenient to you.
I will be coming with our Asian President Mr. Osama Alshafar and my laweys to see the London lawyer and at the same time we could meet and discuss to make arrangements for mutual benefit. We will work as a STRONG UNITED TEAM for the betterment of our sport of bodybuilding and fitness
Regards,
Paul
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IFBB SPORTO FEDERACIJA NIEKADOS NEEGZISTAVO!
Šiandien vyriausias IFBB finansininkas atsiuntė publikacijai IFBB akcininkų susirinkimo protokolą, kuriame tarp akcininkų pasidalinami IFBB korporacijos įgaliojimai, pinigai ir teisės:

ifbbeurope@yahoo.com wrote:

Minutes of General Special Meeting - May 16, 2005 PERJURY !!!!!

DEAR MR. OSAMA, MR.CHUA AND MR.MOHD. ABDULRAHIM ABDULLA
HERE IS THE LETTER OF PERJURY AS PROMISED.
VICTOR
WFF-International Official Information Only
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WFF secretary service Wrote:IFBB SPORTO FEDERACIJA NIEKADOS NEEGZISTAVO!
Šiandien vyriausias IFBB finansininkas atsiuntė publikacijai IFBB akcininkų susirinkimo protokolą, kuriame tarp akcininkų pasidalinami IFBB korporacijos įgaliojimai, pinigai ir teisės:

ifbbeurope@yahoo.com wrote:

Minutes of General Special Meeting - May 16, 2005 PERJURY !!!!!

DEAR MR. OSAMA, MR.CHUA AND MR.MOHD. ABDULRAHIM ABDULLA
HERE IS THE LETTER OF PERJURY AS PROMISED.
VICTOR
WFF-International Official Information Only
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WFF secretary service Wrote:IFBB SPORTO FEDERACIJA NIEKADOS NEEGZISTAVO!
Šiandien vyriausias IFBB finansininkas atsiuntė publikacijai IFBB akcininkų susirinkimo protokolą, kuriame tarp akcininkų pasidalinami IFBB korporacijos įgaliojimai, pinigai ir teisės:

ifbbeurope@yahoo.com wrote:

Minutes of General Special Meeting - May 16, 2005 PERJURY !!!!!

DEAR MR. OSAMA, MR.CHUA AND MR.MOHD. ABDULRAHIM ABDULLA
HERE IS THE LETTER OF PERJURY AS PROMISED.
VICTOR
WFF-International Official Information Only
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WFF secretary service Wrote:IFBB SPORTO FEDERACIJA NIEKADOS NEEGZISTAVO!
Šiandien vyriausias IFBB finansininkas atsiuntė publikacijai IFBB akcininkų susirinkimo protokolą, kuriame tarp akcininkų pasidalinami IFBB korporacijos įgaliojimai, pinigai ir teisės:

ifbbeurope@yahoo.com wrote:

Minutes of General Special Meeting - May 16, 2005 PERJURY !!!!!

DEAR MR. OSAMA, MR.CHUA AND MR.MOHD. ABDULRAHIM ABDULLA
HERE IS THE LETTER OF PERJURY AS PROMISED.
VICTOR
WFF-International Official Information Only
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Šiandien gavome su prašymu paviešinti dar vieną IFBB vyriausio finansininko laišką.
Jis kaltina IFBB nesąžiningais veiksmais ir WADA apgaudinėjimu.
Pasak jo, IFBB artėja dideli pasikeitimai:


From: Fair Play <ifbbeurope@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: : FW: RES: jose carlos santos
To: sca-abbf@live.com
Cc: abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 2:19 PM

THE CHEATING CASE BY THE IFBB WHICH WE CAUGHT THEM IN THE 2008 POSITIVE CASE OF THE BRAZILIAN BODYBUILDERS JOSE CARLOS SANTOS.

MR.KAFOUD,
SINCE YOU ARE HIGHLY EDUCATED IN ENGLISH AND SO PROFICIENT NOW, CAN YOU KINDLY TRANSLATE THIS LETTER. WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT? WHY THE IFBB PRESIDENT RAFAEL, CHAIRMAN OF DOPING COMMITTEE TONY AND ALL HIS SO CALLED DOPING COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE NOT SUSPENDED.
DO YOU CURRY FAVOUR FROM THEM SINCE YOU ARE NOW HEADING THE SO CALLED SPECIAL COMMISSION, WHO WILL RECOGNISE YOU WHEN YOUR FEDERATION COMMITTED FORGERY OF DOPING DOCUMENTS AND TRIED TO CHEAT THE ABBF UNDER THE LAWY A CRIMINAL OFFENCE. THEY CAUGHT YOUR FEDERATION RED-HANDED, AND THIS IS THE BIGGEST JOKE . PLEASE MR. KAFOUD DO NOT TRY AND TELL LIES AFTER LIES, THE ASIANS ARE NOT STUPID.
ALL THE STORIES ABOUT IFFB RECOGNITION IS A SELECTIVE REPLY AND THE TRUTH IS NOT REPORTED. VERY SHORTLY THE IFBB WILL BE SHOCKED.
VICTOR
WFF-International Official Information Only
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RAFAELIO SANTOCHOS opozicija IFBB viduje pasirodė nesanti naivi.
Opozicija tiesiai ir aiškiai išdėsto svarius argumentus ir stato RAFAELĮ SANTOCHĄ į jam prideramą vietą:


Datuk Paul Chua
Secretary General
Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation

Dear Sir,
I am extremely disturbed over the suspension of ABBF, your goodself and my friend Simon Chan by IFBB. It clearly shows how the sport has deplored under the stewardship of the current International President. With regards to charges laid against ABBF, the below are my 2 cents worth.
IFBB became a signatory to the WADA Code in 2003. However, at that point in time the IFBB Anti-Doping rules were not in conformance with the WADA Code. Only on 1st January 2006, the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules 2006 came into effect and that version was accepted as being in conformance with the WADA Code. Given that being the background, the following charges are in contention and suspect.
ABBF decision on the 3 Hong Kong athletes
ABBF's decision to reinstate the 3 athletes prior to the Asian Games in Doha was done under the prescribed process being in force at the time the decision was made. The athletes had served a reduced period of suspension on 1 year after an appeal by the athletes supported by the NF. ABBF had not only followed the prescribed process but also followed set precedent of IFBB (refer to case of 2 Qatar athletes vs IFBB - athletes were allowed a reduced period of suspension of 8 months following appeal by athletes supported by NF). ABBF also ordered the athletes a penalty of $4000 each following precedent set by IFBB in the Qatar case.
If ABBF is punished for wrongful handling of the doping process, then IFBB should also remain vicariously liable for not having proper processes at the time of the incident and for not setting the right precedents.
INVOLVEMENT OF WADA
As for IFBB's allegation that WADA is investigating the matter, it is clear that WADA had no jurisdiction to investigate the matter as at the time of offense, the Anti-Doping rules in force was not in conformance with the WADA Code. Though it can be argued that at the time of appeal in 2006, a new set of rules was in place, this arguement cannot hold water as the code was not in place when the offence took place. It would be against the cause of natural justice to adjudicate on one set of rules and appeal on another different set. This is highly prejudicial against the said athletes.
ABBF's decision was therefore exercised in good faith and in accordance of the rules in force at that time.
IFBB INCORPORATED
As for the allegation that IFBB is a corporate enterprise, this goes against the grain of promoting bodybuilding as a sport. IFBB owes all member nations an explaination, not just as a responsible sporting citizen but also since all National Federations had paid an annual affiliation fee, all National Federations can be deemed as shareholders in the context of Company Law.
In conclusion, it is very sad to see a once esteemed organization like IFBB rotting away like a dead corpse. However, with its inherent lack of transparency and iron fisted ruler, this is not seen as uncommon. With many large corporations like Enron, China Aviation Oil and Maxwell Corporation collapsing for the same reason, it is foolish for the leaders not to see this coming but alas perhaps they were not smart enough to begin with.
This episode is something former athletes like myself and current athletes will be watching closely. But if at all God is great, this would only make ABBF and the friendship and brotherhood amongst member countries even stronger. For those members who fall apart, this is the time to see who the real Asian brothers are and who are not.
I pray that you and our brothers in Asia remain steadfast and strong. God Bless you Datuk.
Your humble former athlete
S Krishnan
WFF-International Official Information Only
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WFF secretary service Wrote:RAFAELIO SANTOCHOS opozicija IFBB viduje pasirodė nesanti naivi.
Opozicija tiesiai ir aiškiai išdėsto svarius argumentus ir stato RAFAELĮ SANTOCHĄ į jam prideramą vietą:


Datuk Paul Chua
Secretary General
Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation

Dear Sir,
I am extremely disturbed over the suspension of ABBF, your goodself and my friend Simon Chan by IFBB. It clearly shows how the sport has deplored under the stewardship of the current International President. With regards to charges laid against ABBF, the below are my 2 cents worth.
IFBB became a signatory to the WADA Code in 2003. However, at that point in time the IFBB Anti-Doping rules were not in conformance with the WADA Code. Only on 1st January 2006, the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules 2006 came into effect and that version was accepted as being in conformance with the WADA Code. Given that being the background, the following charges are in contention and suspect.
ABBF decision on the 3 Hong Kong athletes
ABBF's decision to reinstate the 3 athletes prior to the Asian Games in Doha was done under the prescribed process being in force at the time the decision was made. The athletes had served a reduced period of suspension on 1 year after an appeal by the athletes supported by the NF. ABBF had not only followed the prescribed process but also followed set precedent of IFBB (refer to case of 2 Qatar athletes vs IFBB - athletes were allowed a reduced period of suspension of 8 months following appeal by athletes supported by NF). ABBF also ordered the athletes a penalty of $4000 each following precedent set by IFBB in the Qatar case.
If ABBF is punished for wrongful handling of the doping process, then IFBB should also remain vicariously liable for not having proper processes at the time of the incident and for not setting the right precedents.
INVOLVEMENT OF WADA
As for IFBB's allegation that WADA is investigating the matter, it is clear that WADA had no jurisdiction to investigate the matter as at the time of offense, the Anti-Doping rules in force was not in conformance with the WADA Code. Though it can be argued that at the time of appeal in 2006, a new set of rules was in place, this arguement cannot hold water as the code was not in place when the offence took place. It would be against the cause of natural justice to adjudicate on one set of rules and appeal on another different set. This is highly prejudicial against the said athletes.
ABBF's decision was therefore exercised in good faith and in accordance of the rules in force at that time.
IFBB INCORPORATED
As for the allegation that IFBB is a corporate enterprise, this goes against the grain of promoting bodybuilding as a sport. IFBB owes all member nations an explaination, not just as a responsible sporting citizen but also since all National Federations had paid an annual affiliation fee, all National Federations can be deemed as shareholders in the context of Company Law.
In conclusion, it is very sad to see a once esteemed organization like IFBB rotting away like a dead corpse. However, with its inherent lack of transparency and iron fisted ruler, this is not seen as uncommon. With many large corporations like Enron, China Aviation Oil and Maxwell Corporation collapsing for the same reason, it is foolish for the leaders not to see this coming but alas perhaps they were not smart enough to begin with.
This episode is something former athletes like myself and current athletes will be watching closely. But if at all God is great, this would only make ABBF and the friendship and brotherhood amongst member countries even stronger. For those members who fall apart, this is the time to see who the real Asian brothers are and who are not.
I pray that you and our brothers in Asia remain steadfast and strong. God Bless you Datuk.
Your humble former athlete
S Krishnan

Štai dar vienas IFBB vadovų laiškas, atskleidžiantis ir papildantis situaciją:


Dear Mr. Chua
I am proud that you stood well with the "Idi Amin of Egypt", a fat and clumsy disgrace to the sport of body-building.
For your information, I have known about his past involvements in Judo, I have heard from many of my close Maldivian associates in Egypt that he had been kicked out of the Judo club for being a pompous loudmouth and a nuisance.
He is a megalomaniac who literally "killed" the great champion bodybuilder El Guindi by seizing power, to accomplish his evil ambitions.
He has made a mockery of the entire sport and discipline of bodybuilding by selling Weider Coaching Certificates to a 7-year-old boy in the UAE, and also to a lady in Saudi Arabia.
Adel was caught circulating flyers in the Asian Games Championship held in Doha in 2006, and was then kicked out. What kind of an Executive Assistant is he to the IFBB Corporation under the CEO of Rafael Santonja? Rafael does not answer my emails. He now realizes that the unilateral decision is not working so he will use his villian english boy to reply.
Adel is indeed suffering from delusions of grandeur. He can certainly be considered as a Humpty Dumpty.
He is writing on behalf of his master Rafael so that he can travel free and earn some money while carrying Rafael's luggage.
He is a shame for all our Muslim brothers, a traitor in the midst of our society, a servant to the elite tour for the elite people.
Sir, I implore you to keep fighting for your rights. The IFBB Corporation has disgraced our Muslim brothers by cancelling the World Championships, this shall go down in history forever so we cannot forgive these money-hungry wastes of humanity.
You are a HERO and Adel is merely a piece of shit and a puppet of Rafael and his corporation. They have single-handedly demolished the legitimacy and reputation of the IFBB, it is a just a shell of what it used to be.
Haleem
WFF-International Official Information Only
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Šiandien gavome publikacijai forume laišką, kurį parašė IFBB sportininkas ir teisininkas iš Anglijos.
Jis kaltina RAFAELĮ SANTOCHĄ slepiant nuo federacijos narių tai, kad IFBB nėra sporto federacija, o tik komercinė privati firma.
Tai akivaizdžiai liudija dokumentai iš mokesčių inspekcijos.
Į IFBB vyriausioje finansininko užduotus R.SANTOCAH klausimus šis neatsako.
Į klausimus, užduotus IFBB vice prezidento POLO ČIUA, atstovaujančio Azijos IFBB (kuri buvo 50 metų IFBB nare) R.SANTOCHA taip pat beatsako.
Pokalbių laikas pasibaigė ir atėjo laikas juridiniams veiksmams.

From: Deiter Weber <rb62000x-deiterweber@yahoo...com>
Subject: Open Letter from IFBB to Paul Chua
To: w.tierney2@ukonline.co.uk
Cc: internacional@santonja.com, "Datuk Chua ABBF Sec Gen" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 7:32 PM
Re: Open Letter from IFBB to Paul Chua
Dear Mr. Tierney,
I read your open letter to Paul Chua posted on the IFBB website with great interest. As a former athlete who competed in this sport, I am deeply concerned over the fisco happening between the International and Continental federations. As a concerned former athlete of this truely great sport, I seek clarifications on the following issues raised. If you choose to answer, I take it that IFBB still stands up for the athletes and against corrupt officials... If not, I infer your interest from your silence.
Para 2 - You alleged that the Continental Federation slapped an unprecedented fine and suspension against a national federation but did not state what the infringement was. If meting out sanctions, if there are set rules to follow, then none of this should have happened. If the issue was a doping issue, then the Anti-Doping rules in force at that time should have covered for situations like this. How could an action be ultra vires of there are no rules covering this situation. You also mentioned that IFBB intervened to hear the appeal Paul Chua agreed to a resolution end the suspension and withdraw the fine. What are we talking here ???
One official punishes and another can remove ??? Call a spade a spade. If it is an offence, it is an offence. It is punishable. If ab initio, there is no case to answer "res ipsa loquitor" , then the official should have been punished for ultra vires action. Your claim of facts against the backdrop invites more suspicion than clarity. If Paul Chau was wrong then, why no action was taken against him at that time ??? What ethos was IFBB following ???
Para 3 - Your para 3 does not make sense. You have done selective reporting. You indicated that in some cases Paul Chau was lenient and in some cases not. What you did not indicate was the facts of the case and its surrounding circumstances. Your country UK prides upon its justice system. As a student of your law, I have learnt much about sentencing policy. Judges are given a range of punishment to mete out in order to achieve the objectives of the judicial system. In all cases, though the doctrine of "stare decisis" operates to establish certainty, judges would have to consider many other factors before dishing out the appropriate punishment. Therefore your arguement does not hold water.
Secondly, if IFBB had known that Paul Chua was administering the Anti-Doping Rules in a arbitrary fashion, why IFBB did not put a stop to this then. Why did IFBB continue to allow ABBF to handle doping cases ?? Did IFBB have an operating framework to administer Anti-Doping Rules synching with the Continental and National federations ??? Is IFBB now claiming that it did not have any knowledge to how ABBF was handling doping cases ???
Para 5 - The online chatter on this topic is rather hot and I am aware of some news. Again in your letter, you have swayed the attention away from the real issue, either as a cause of a failure of understanding or on purpose. I believe no one claimed that IFBB was illegal per se. The question rather, is IFBB a privately held corporation set up to run a business or a not-for-profit sporting association. If it is not-for-profitm, why is it required to pay VAT ??? If it is a proper sporting organization, why not publish the relevant government approval/registration documents ????
Para 6 - our para 6 deeply concern me. You mentioned that ABBF promised to have all documents submitted to IFBB and till date they have not. You mean to tell the world that through out the period ABBF was with IFBB, almost 50 years, ABBF had not submitted documents, and the beautiful minds in IFBB just got the inkling to report that ???? What is happening in IFBB ??? Seems more like when you needed Paul Chua you guys tolerated him and now there is an issue, you bring in the cavalry ??????
Your last paragraph concerns me the most. You are telling Paul Chua to part ways with IFBB after so much shit have been thrown at each other ??? If you truely want to strengthen the legacy that the honorable Mr... Ben Weider left behind, then IFBB should seek to disprove everything and be willing to stand up to scrutiny. This position will probably turn poor Mr. Weider in his grave. IFBB seemingly does not have the guts to face up to the trials of this. Never have I seen a more pathetic and lame excuse to avoid public embarrassment..
I think the time for talk is over.
Please do the needful to show us that IFBB is indeed the esteemed organization we believed in and for god's sake do Mr. Weider this favour. I believe IFBB owes the great man this service.............................
A Very Dejected Former Athlete
Suki Krist
WFF-International Official Information Only
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Šiandien publikacijai forume gavome dar vieną vyriausio IFBB finansininko laišką.
Laiške rašoma, kad IFBB korporacijos-federacijos generalinis sekretorius anglas William Tierney siuntinėja nacionalinėms federacijoms grasinimus, jei jos palaikys POLĄ ČIUA.
Tačiau nacionalinės federacijos balandžio 22 dieną Kuala Lampūre (Malaizija) susirinko į neeilinį kongresą ir pareiškė, kad NEPRIPAŽĮSTA IFBB FEDERACIJOS-KORPORACIJOS. Federacijos reikalauja, kad RAFAELIS SANTOCHĄ atsakytų į visus IFBB vyriausio finansininko pateiktus finansinius ir juridinius klausimus, nes ypatingai svarbiuose dokumentuose daug suklastotų parašų.


From: Mohamed Haleem <haleem@gmail.com>
Subject: Dear Asian Brothers and Sisters
To: "Afghanistan Asia" <zubais_m1@hotmail.com>, "mohd abdulla" <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>, saleh_angel@hotmail.com, "mlrkhan@cgscomm.net" <mlrkhan@cgscomm.net>, bhutannoc@gmail.com, capkaytee@hotmail.com, "Karma Wangchuk" <gsd@druknet.bt>, kphalla@yahoo.com, "cbba-cn Asia" <cbba-cn@sohu.com>, "Simon Chan (IPTFA)" <simon@iptfa..com>, girijashankar_nayak@yahoo.com, navin_rao2007@yahoo.ca, smb@cbn.net.id, "Indonesia Asia" <bigguy1402@yahoo.com>, adang.d@bangadang.com, iriranbbf@yahoo.com, bbfiran@yahoo.com, n..pouralifard@yahoo.com, iranbodybuilding@gmail.com, aliraqibbf@yahoo.com, mky_miyao@ybb.ne.jp, "Jordan Asia" <khaleddpa@yahoo.com>, araslanov58@mail.ru, "Kaesun Asia" <kaesun@kaesun.com>, charliekorean@gmail.com, "Rep Kyrgyz Asia" <alisher_tairov@mail.ru>, cbannavong@hotmail.com, "Malih Alaywan IFBB Executive" <sateh_n@yahoo.com>, "Macau Asia" <chelucky@macau.ctm.net>, ines.mbfa@yahoo.com, "siyeung Asia" <siyeung@ipm.edu.mo>, japerun82@yahoo.com, masbbf@yahoo.com, budes_e@yahoo.com, monochir@yahoo.com, member-5@hotmail.com.mm, dineshrajbh@hotmail.com, nbba@mail.com, "Rajesh Babu Shrestha" <rajesh@chitawoncoe.com>, omolco@omantel.net.om, nocpakistan@gmail.com, abujaffar50@gmail.com, corybmojica@yahoo.com, limluciano@yahoo.com, emkafood@yahoo.com, "Qatar Asia" <M.Y.AlMana@alhamadautomobiles.com..qa>, aymanshugair@yahoo.com, s.al-naseeb@hotmail.com, letchmenon@yahoo.com.sg, mletchmenon@sbbf.org.sg, "Jeff Schucroft" <jeffschucroft@gmail.com>, "Syria Asia" <syrianbodybuilding@yahoo..com>, "Jengliao Asia" <jengliao@gmail.com>, ctbbf@kbronet.com.tw, noc@olympic.tj, thaibody@hotmail.com, skanda@loxinfo.co.th, "Sugree Supawarikul" <seabbf@yahoo.com>, "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, bodybuld@emirates.net.ae, "hussin alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>, "Uzbekistan Asia" <uzb_bodybuildingfitness@yahoo.com>, mr_aziz@yahoo.com, bodybuilding.vgf@gmail.com, huynhanh.vbbf@yahoo.com, toangiacuong@gmail.com, ywlf2002@hotmail.com, hotak.bawar@yahoo.com, "Christina Kam" <christina_weider@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Thursday, 30 April, 2009, 7:38 PM

My dear Asian Brothers and Sisters,
Some Associations have received threatening letters from the Acting General-Secretary of the IFBB Corporation, William Tierney, as directed by his boss Rafael Santonja.
Mr. Tierney is warning us that he will write to our respective governments to complain about us participating in the ABBF Extra-Ordinary Congress. They fail to realize that we are living in a free and democratic society.
The IFBB it seems, have gone back to the Dark Ages and have resorted to using threats and intimidation to get what they want. This is the behaviour of an animal without any justice or fair-play. They have forgotten all about the fundamentals of Sport, that is to build bridges of friendship between the competitors, now all they want is power, to dictate our every move. Will he ever try to pull such a stunt on the Europeans? If so, they would just tell him to go rot in Hell.
The "IFBB CORPORATION" should convince us, with the proof, about the questions raised by Mr. Axel Bauer. Trust me when I say that the signatures on certain documents were forged in Montreal, Canada. The truth will come out soon.
The 'IFBB Corporation' thinks that we are fools and that they can play games with us. We will not become puppets of the IFBB regime. They must take notice of this.
We request the “IFBB Corporation” to leave us Asians alone and to go make money on their own if that’s what they wish. We DO NOT RECOGNISE IFBB as can be seen by the majority in attendance at the Extra Ordinary Congress held on 22nd April, 2009 in Kuala Lumpur.
Kindly provide us with clear proof where all the money from IFBB.Inc in Canada was deposited. Why is it that IFBB Spain made payments through a company operated by Rafael Santonja and not by the corporation or association? Simply answer the questions posed by Mr.Axel Bauer and we will gladly support the IFBB.
It’s such a shame to see a British gentleman such as Mr.William Tierney misbehaving in this unsightly manner. Though just been appointed as the Act. General Secretary, he now wants to show us he just might act like his buddy Adel Fahim.
Seems like the reason that Prof. Mauricio is silent is because he was also involved in the scandal of Jose’s case on doping because the athlete is from Brazil. He was so upset that he demanded Mr.Paul Chua to produce the documents of the 2005 doping within 48 hours. Really, I fail to understand the poor mentality of these so called senior officers and workers of the IFBB. Maurico is a paid staff and he acts as though the IFBB Corporation belongs to him.
Asian brothers and sisters please show all the documents which Mr Paul Chua sent to us to your government and EXPOSE these cheats.
Haleem
Maldives
WFF-International Official Information Only
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WFF secretary service Wrote:Šiandien publikacijai forume gavome dar vieną vyriausio IFBB finansininko laišką.
Laiške rašoma, kad IFBB korporacijos-federacijos generalinis sekretorius anglas William Tierney siuntinėja nacionalinėms federacijoms grasinimus, jei jos palaikys POLĄ ČIUA.
Tačiau nacionalinės federacijos balandžio 22 dieną Kuala Lampūre (Malaizija) susirinko į neeilinį kongresą ir pareiškė, kad NEPRIPAŽĮSTA IFBB FEDERACIJOS-KORPORACIJOS. Federacijos reikalauja, kad RAFAELIS SANTOCHĄ atsakytų į visus IFBB vyriausio finansininko pateiktus finansinius ir juridinius klausimus, nes ypatingai svarbiuose dokumentuose daug suklastotų parašų.


From: Mohamed Haleem <haleem@gmail.com>
Subject: Dear Asian Brothers and Sisters
To: "Afghanistan Asia" <zubais_m1@hotmail.com>, "mohd abdulla" <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>, saleh_angel@hotmail.com, "mlrkhan@cgscomm.net" <mlrkhan@cgscomm.net>, bhutannoc@gmail.com, capkaytee@hotmail.com, "Karma Wangchuk" <gsd@druknet.bt>, kphalla@yahoo.com, "cbba-cn Asia" <cbba-cn@sohu.com>, "Simon Chan (IPTFA)" <simon@iptfa..com>, girijashankar_nayak@yahoo.com, navin_rao2007@yahoo.ca, smb@cbn.net.id, "Indonesia Asia" <bigguy1402@yahoo.com>, adang.d@bangadang.com, iriranbbf@yahoo.com, bbfiran@yahoo.com, n..pouralifard@yahoo.com, iranbodybuilding@gmail.com, aliraqibbf@yahoo.com, mky_miyao@ybb.ne.jp, "Jordan Asia" <khaleddpa@yahoo.com>, araslanov58@mail.ru, "Kaesun Asia" <kaesun@kaesun.com>, charliekorean@gmail.com, "Rep Kyrgyz Asia" <alisher_tairov@mail.ru>, cbannavong@hotmail.com, "Malih Alaywan IFBB Executive" <sateh_n@yahoo.com>, "Macau Asia" <chelucky@macau.ctm.net>, ines.mbfa@yahoo.com, "siyeung Asia" <siyeung@ipm.edu.mo>, japerun82@yahoo.com, masbbf@yahoo.com, budes_e@yahoo.com, monochir@yahoo.com, member-5@hotmail.com.mm, dineshrajbh@hotmail.com, nbba@mail.com, "Rajesh Babu Shrestha" <rajesh@chitawoncoe.com>, omolco@omantel.net.om, nocpakistan@gmail.com, abujaffar50@gmail.com, corybmojica@yahoo.com, limluciano@yahoo.com, emkafood@yahoo.com, "Qatar Asia" <M.Y.AlMana@alhamadautomobiles.com..qa>, aymanshugair@yahoo.com, s.al-naseeb@hotmail.com, letchmenon@yahoo.com.sg, mletchmenon@sbbf.org.sg, "Jeff Schucroft" <jeffschucroft@gmail.com>, "Syria Asia" <syrianbodybuilding@yahoo..com>, "Jengliao Asia" <jengliao@gmail.com>, ctbbf@kbronet.com.tw, noc@olympic.tj, thaibody@hotmail.com, skanda@loxinfo.co.th, "Sugree Supawarikul" <seabbf@yahoo.com>, "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, bodybuld@emirates.net.ae, "hussin alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>, "Uzbekistan Asia" <uzb_bodybuildingfitness@yahoo.com>, mr_aziz@yahoo.com, bodybuilding.vgf@gmail.com, huynhanh.vbbf@yahoo.com, toangiacuong@gmail.com, ywlf2002@hotmail.com, hotak.bawar@yahoo.com, "Christina Kam" <christina_weider@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Thursday, 30 April, 2009, 7:38 PM

My dear Asian Brothers and Sisters,
Some Associations have received threatening letters from the Acting General-Secretary of the IFBB Corporation, William Tierney, as directed by his boss Rafael Santonja.
Mr. Tierney is warning us that he will write to our respective governments to complain about us participating in the ABBF Extra-Ordinary Congress. They fail to realize that we are living in a free and democratic society.
The IFBB it seems, have gone back to the Dark Ages and have resorted to using threats and intimidation to get what they want. This is the behaviour of an animal without any justice or fair-play. They have forgotten all about the fundamentals of Sport, that is to build bridges of friendship between the competitors, now all they want is power, to dictate our every move. Will he ever try to pull such a stunt on the Europeans? If so, they would just tell him to go rot in Hell.
The "IFBB CORPORATION" should convince us, with the proof, about the questions raised by Mr. Axel Bauer. Trust me when I say that the signatures on certain documents were forged in Montreal, Canada. The truth will come out soon.
The 'IFBB Corporation' thinks that we are fools and that they can play games with us. We will not become puppets of the IFBB regime. They must take notice of this.
We request the “IFBB Corporation” to leave us Asians alone and to go make money on their own if that’s what they wish. We DO NOT RECOGNISE IFBB as can be seen by the majority in attendance at the Extra Ordinary Congress held on 22nd April, 2009 in Kuala Lumpur.
Kindly provide us with clear proof where all the money from IFBB.Inc in Canada was deposited. Why is it that IFBB Spain made payments through a company operated by Rafael Santonja and not by the corporation or association? Simply answer the questions posed by Mr.Axel Bauer and we will gladly support the IFBB.
It’s such a shame to see a British gentleman such as Mr.William Tierney misbehaving in this unsightly manner. Though just been appointed as the Act. General Secretary, he now wants to show us he just might act like his buddy Adel Fahim.
Seems like the reason that Prof. Mauricio is silent is because he was also involved in the scandal of Jose’s case on doping because the athlete is from Brazil. He was so upset that he demanded Mr.Paul Chua to produce the documents of the 2005 doping within 48 hours. Really, I fail to understand the poor mentality of these so called senior officers and workers of the IFBB. Maurico is a paid staff and he acts as though the IFBB Corporation belongs to him.
Asian brothers and sisters please show all the documents which Mr Paul Chua sent to us to your government and EXPOSE these cheats.
Haleem
Maldives

fu, kaip negrazu!
Reply
Šiandien prieš po keleto dienų Londone prasidedančius teisminius veiksmus, RAFAELIS SANTOCHA panikuoja, o jo palaikymo komanda federacijoms siuntinėja grasinančius laiškus. Tai rodo R.SANTOCHOS bejėgiškumą ir silpnumą.
Tačiau aklos baimės laikai praėjo ir niekas iš IFBB nacionalinių federacijų vadovų nebesiruošia laižyti vienos vietos menamam šeimininkui:

THREATENING LETTER FROM WILLIAM TIERNEY TO SINGAPORE FEDERATION


From: Fair Play <ifbbeurope@yahoo.com>
Subject: THREATENING LETTER FROM WILLIAM TIERNEY TO SINGAPORE FEDERATION
To: abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg, wanda.tierney@ukonline.co.uk
Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:56 AM

Sir look at their bullying and threatening tactics. Is this the right way for an international federation to act. They are intimidating, threatening and trying to force people to support them.
William Tierney is so stupid that he does not know what he is doing. Nobody cares about the IFBB corporation and their Senior Officers anymore.
They only wrote to Singapore (I believe) and not to the rest of the 18 other countries plus the 8 proxies. They are frightened there will be an strong letters, protests and attacks.
William stop threatening the national federations if they do not support you. If your "IFBB CORPORATION" is strong why you are frightened to lose one small country like Singapore???
Victor
WFF-International Official Information Only
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WFF secretary service Wrote:Šiandien prieš po keleto dienų Londone prasidedančius teisminius veiksmus, RAFAELIS SANTOCHA panikuoja, o jo palaikymo komanda federacijoms siuntinėja grasinančius laiškus. Tai rodo R.SANTOCHOS bejėgiškumą ir silpnumą.
Tačiau aklos baimės laikai praėjo ir niekas iš IFBB nacionalinių federacijų vadovų nebesiruošia laižyti vienos vietos menamam šeimininkui:

THREATENING LETTER FROM WILLIAM TIERNEY TO SINGAPORE FEDERATION


From: Fair Play <ifbbeurope@yahoo.com>
Subject: THREATENING LETTER FROM WILLIAM TIERNEY TO SINGAPORE FEDERATION
To: abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg, wanda.tierney@ukonline.co.uk
Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:56 AM

Sir look at their bullying and threatening tactics. Is this the right way for an international federation to act. They are intimidating, threatening and trying to force people to support them.
William Tierney is so stupid that he does not know what he is doing. Nobody cares about the IFBB corporation and their Senior Officers anymore.
They only wrote to Singapore (I believe) and not to the rest of the 18 other countries plus the 8 proxies. They are frightened there will be an strong letters, protests and attacks.
William stop threatening the national federations if they do not support you. If your "IFBB CORPORATION" is strong why you are frightened to lose one small country like Singapore???
Victor

From: William Tierney <w.tierney2@ukonline.co.uk>
To: letchmenon@yahoo.com.sg
Cc: Rafael Santonja IFBB President <internacional@santonja.com>; Pamela Kagan IFBB Executive <pkagan@ifbbpro.com>; Mauricio de Arruda Campos IFBB Executive <mauricio@santonja.com>; Ibrahim Kafoud SCA Exec <sca-abbf@live.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 29 April, 2009 23:20:50
Subject: Kuala Lumpur

Dear Mr Letchmenon:
We are very surprised to see that there was a representation from Singapore
in the recent meeting called by Mr Paul Chua held in Kuala Lumpur (attached).
In our previous phone conversation while you were in Holland, you were
informed and provided with documents through Ms Juliette Bergmann, President
of the Dutch Federation, which gave you full information about the real facts
that involve the suspension of Mr Chua, which centres around a very serious
violation of the IFBB Anti Doping Rules
The IFBB is signatory of the WADA Code, like the Olympic Council of Asia and
the Singapore Government.
Therefore it is mandatory for the Singapore Federation to follow the Anti
Doping Code.
The IFBB opened an investigation, on these matters, following WADA´s
recommendation, and as well assisted by WADA in the case, due the seriousness
of the matter.
In your conversation with me, you mentioned you are aware of the importance of
the IFBB Anti Doping Code, and the principles of the Anti Doping Policy.
You are fully aware that a suspended IFBB official cannot organize any event
on behalf of the IFBB;
The same as a suspended IFBB athlete, who cannot participate in any IFBB
events.
Singapore's presence in Kuala Lumpur, in a meeting called by a suspended
official, without having this matter in the agenda, and most likely, intending
to deviate the attention away from the correct follow up of the Anti Doping
Policy, is unacceptable..
We would appreciate receiving your letter of clarification in this matter and
your confirmed support to the IFBB.
We hope that your clarification will avoid having to inform your Government
and Sport Authorities.
Sincerely yours,
William Tierney
IFBB General Secretary
WFF-International Official Information Only
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Štai straipsnis iš Azijos spaudos, kur smerkiami nešvarūs dalykėliai. Čia rašoma, kad Azija nebus Rafaelio Santochos marionete.
Būtent todėl balandžio 22 d. Malaizijoje buvo sušauktas neeilinis Azijos IFBB kongresas (iš 38 šalių nacionalinių federacijų dalyvavo 27).
KONGRESAS NUTARĖ:
- nevykdyti Santochiškos IFBB nurodymų
- nepaklusti neregistruotos IFBB neregistruotai konstitucijai
- IFBB nėra sportinė federacija, o privati komercinė firma, kurios niekad negalėjo pripažinti ir niekad nepripažins Tarptautinis Olimpinis Komitetas
- Teisme nubausti apgaulingas kanadietišką ir ispanišką IFBB, kurios pagaudinėjo visus prisistatydamos tarptautinėmis IFBB federacijomis
- Apie reikalo esmę informuoti VISUS



TRANSLATION

ALWASAT SPORT NEWS

INS SPITEOF ALL THE LIES IFBB WROTE TO ALL ASIAN NATION MINISTER OF FORIGN AFFAIRS

SUCCESSFUL ABBF EXTRA-ORDIRNARY CONCLUDED IN MALYSIA

Arrived back to Bahrain from Malaysia Mr. Mohamed Abdulrahim Abdulla- Executive Vice President for ABBF after attending an Extra Ordinary Emergency ABBF Congress meeting in KL – Malaysia from April 21st – 23rd 2009.
In spite of ugly action by IFBB to prevent this Asian brotherly gathering, by writing to all Asian Nations, Minister of Foreign Affairs (MOFA), National Olympic Committees( NOC), threatening that those who attend this meeting will be suspended by IFBB, and this meeting is illegal, the IFBB failed to convince Asia not to participate in this meeting, IFBB was ignored and they failed to shake the spirit of the Asians, and the ABBF Emergency Congress went very successful.
In an interview with Executive VP for ABBF, He said , we got a great support in the meeting by Asian federation affiliated to ABBF, in this brotherly, and family gathering, and All spoke one language" NO TO IFBB DECISION TO BAN ABBF, AND SAID YES TO ABBF EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE UNDER LEADERSHIP OF MR. OSAMA AL SHAFAR" The reason because, the IFBB decision was illegal and against the rules and regulations, One man decision (unilateral), against one the most successful Continental Sport Federation, with huge agenda and activities, and recognized by OCA, and such decision must be taken in the Congress.
Total of 19 countries attended the meeting, and 8 countries officially supported, and gave the letter of proxy, 6 countries were absent in spite they received the invitation letter, and 5 countries apologized. But we got the majority of 27 countries out of 38.
Abdulrahim added that the following decisions were approved:
1. All insisted not to obey to the IFBB illegal decision.
2. All supported their loyalty to Mr. Osama Al Shafar , as the president of ABBF.
3. IFBB is not registered as a federation, and not recognized by IOC, but registered as Corporation (private companies).
4. To follow and continue the case in the court in the Spanish Court or in (CAS) to get Justice, because IFBB action was illegal, and punishable..
5. Letters to be sent to all Asian Federation, and NOC to explain about the facts, and truth.
6. All agreed not to follow IFBB rules, and follow the
ABBF constitution.
MOHD. ABDULRAHIM ABDULLA
EXECUTIVE VICE-PRESIDENT, ABBF
WFF-International Official Information Only
Reply
WFF secretary service Wrote:Štai straipsnis iš Azijos spaudos, kur smerkiami nešvarūs dalykėliai. Čia rašoma, kad Azija nebus Rafaelio Santochos marionete.
Būtent todėl balandžio 22 d. Malaizijoje buvo sušauktas neeilinis Azijos IFBB kongresas (iš 38 šalių nacionalinių federacijų dalyvavo 27).
KONGRESAS NUTARĖ:
- nevykdyti Santochiškos IFBB nurodymų
- nepaklusti neregistruotos IFBB neregistruotai konstitucijai
- IFBB nėra sportinė federacija, o privati komercinė firma, kurios niekad negalėjo pripažinti ir niekad nepripažins Tarptautinis Olimpinis Komitetas
- Teisme nubausti apgaulingas kanadietišką ir ispanišką IFBB, kurios pagaudinėjo visus prisistatydamos tarptautinėmis IFBB federacijomis
- Apie reikalo esmę informuoti VISUS



TRANSLATION

ALWASAT SPORT NEWS

INS SPITEOF ALL THE LIES IFBB WROTE TO ALL ASIAN NATION MINISTER OF FORIGN AFFAIRS

SUCCESSFUL ABBF EXTRA-ORDIRNARY CONCLUDED IN MALYSIA

Arrived back to Bahrain from Malaysia Mr. Mohamed Abdulrahim Abdulla- Executive Vice President for ABBF after attending an Extra Ordinary Emergency ABBF Congress meeting in KL – Malaysia from April 21st – 23rd 2009.
In spite of ugly action by IFBB to prevent this Asian brotherly gathering, by writing to all Asian Nations, Minister of Foreign Affairs (MOFA), National Olympic Committees( NOC), threatening that those who attend this meeting will be suspended by IFBB, and this meeting is illegal, the IFBB failed to convince Asia not to participate in this meeting, IFBB was ignored and they failed to shake the spirit of the Asians, and the ABBF Emergency Congress went very successful.
In an interview with Executive VP for ABBF, He said , we got a great support in the meeting by Asian federation affiliated to ABBF, in this brotherly, and family gathering, and All spoke one language" NO TO IFBB DECISION TO BAN ABBF, AND SAID YES TO ABBF EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE UNDER LEADERSHIP OF MR. OSAMA AL SHAFAR" The reason because, the IFBB decision was illegal and against the rules and regulations, One man decision (unilateral), against one the most successful Continental Sport Federation, with huge agenda and activities, and recognized by OCA, and such decision must be taken in the Congress.
Total of 19 countries attended the meeting, and 8 countries officially supported, and gave the letter of proxy, 6 countries were absent in spite they received the invitation letter, and 5 countries apologized. But we got the majority of 27 countries out of 38.
Abdulrahim added that the following decisions were approved:
1. All insisted not to obey to the IFBB illegal decision.
2. All supported their loyalty to Mr. Osama Al Shafar , as the president of ABBF.
3. IFBB is not registered as a federation, and not recognized by IOC, but registered as Corporation (private companies).
4. To follow and continue the case in the court in the Spanish Court or in (CAS) to get Justice, because IFBB action was illegal, and punishable..
5. Letters to be sent to all Asian Federation, and NOC to explain about the facts, and truth.
6. All agreed not to follow IFBB rules, and follow the
ABBF constitution.
MOHD. ABDULRAHIM ABDULLA
EXECUTIVE VICE-PRESIDENT, ABBF

38 nacionalinės federacijos - jėga, su kuria negalima nesiskaityti...
FOTO
IFBB neneilinio kongreso REZOLIUCIJA
WFF-International Official Information Only
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Šiandien gavome laišką publikacijai, kurį IFBB korporacijos-federacijos vadams parašė Azijos IFBB skyriaus direktorius BABA MADHUKAS.
Jis juokiasi iš IFBB korporacijų grasinimų nacionalinėms federacijoms: kaip privati IFBB korporacija gali priversti nacionalines federacijas būti su ja komerciniuose santykiuose.
Sportas yra sportas...


On Fri, 1/5/09, babamadhok@gmail.com <babamadhok@gmail.com> wrote:
PERFECT REPLY TO THREATS.

From: babamadhok@gmail.com <babamadhok@gmail.com>
Subject: Fw: Perfect reply to threats.
To: abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg
Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 4:43 PM

Dear all
No reply better than this to the self styled BOSSES of IFBB.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..................................................................................... Wow first time in history of any sports a business corporation threatening for consequences if we do not deal OH SORRY do business with them. Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaa...............................CRAZY.......................................Come on guys let's give their VAT no to our sports control boards and request our govt's to sue them for cheating our funds and assets , we were not dealing with a business house we thought They were a sports federation.
Please circulate this all over Asia and World.
Baba madhok
Executive Director
South Asian bodybuilding and fitness federation.
WFF-International Official Information Only
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IFBB VADOVYBĖ SKATINA DOPINGO NAUDOJIMĄ?
Šiandien gavome laišką iš Tailando, kurį prašoma paviešinti forume. Azijos IFBB vice prezidentas, Tailando nacionalinės federacijos prezidentas SUGREE SUPAWARIKUL klausia RAFAELIO SANTOCHOS:
Kaip tai gali būti, kad IFBB profesionalų diviziono vadai PAMELA KAGAN ir TONIS BLINAS vienu metu vadovauja dviems prieštaringoms organizacijoms: IFBB profesionalų lygai, kuri atvirai palaiko dopingo naudojimą ir IFBB federacijai-korporacijai, kuri šaukia apie anti-dopingo nuostatas... Tai kaip čia yra iš tikrųjų?
Neaišku, kaip būdami samdomi darbuotojai ir neatstovaudami nė vienai šaliai, nė vienai nacionalinei federacijai, PAMELA KAGAN ir TONIS BLINAS gali užimti tokius aukštus IFBB postus. Išvis niekam nėra žinoma, kas juos paskyrė į šiuos postus.
Ir išvis yra juokinga juridinė situacija: įvairių šalių nacionalinės federacijos buvo ir yra privačios, trims žmonėms priklausančios, Kanados IFBB korporacijos-federacijos narėmis.
Lietuvos IFBB yra Kanados IFBB narė??? Kur dar nueisite, mielieji?
Durnių kraštas, sako Vidmantas iš Vilniaus...

From: Sugree Supawarikul <seabbf@yahoo.com>
Subject: Dual Position in IFBB Corporation and Pro League
To: internacional@santonja.com
Cc: pkagan@ifbbpro.com, tblinn@ifbbpro.com, smishek@sasktel.net, "PAUL CHUA" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "Douglas Latchford" <skanda@loxinfo.co.th>, "OSAMA AALSHAFAR" <osama@alshafar.ae>
Date: Saturday, 2 May, 2009, 12:30 PM

Dear Mr. Santonja,
I am amused and surprised that the IFBB Corporation is allowing Tony Blinn ( Secretary of the Pro League ) being appointed as the Chairman of the IFBB Doping Committee and Pamela Kagan, Director of the Pro League as the Executive Director of the IFBB Corporation. Don't you think that this is a conflict of interest. On one hand you preach anti-doping and on the other hand you are promoting doping competitions.
Both Tony Blinn and Pamela Kagan are employees of the IFBB Pro League and they do not even represent the Canadian Bodybuilding Federation or a country, how can they represent the IFBB Corporation this is absurd and ridiculous. Can Rafael give us an answer ?
The IFBB Corporation is using the services of Tony and Pamela for their own benefit and vested interest. I also wonder how come Pamela Kagan and Tony Blinn were suddenly appointed as members of the anti-doping committee in the IFBB. Nobody knows of their appointments in this anti-doping committee. How can Pro League members serve in the IFBB corporation unless you a commercial organisation.
Can I have an explanation on the above, please.
Sugree Suprawakil
Secretary-General, Thailand Bodybuilding Association
Vice-President, ABBF
WFF-International Official Information Only
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Šiandien gavome dar vieną laišką nuo IFBB Azijos vice prezidento MOHAMED ABDULRAHIM ABDULLA parašytą RAFAELIUI SANTOCHAI su prašymu paviešinti forume. Neversime, nes nėra laiko. RAFAELIS SANTOCHA iki ausų įklimpęs: machinacijos su pinigais, parašų padirbinėjimas dokumentuose, organizacijų (kaip WADA) ir sportininkų apgaulė ir t.t.

From: mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Provisional Suspention
To: "IFBB Education & Research Commission" <mauricio@santonja.com>
Cc: Kerwin.Clarke@wada-ama.org, "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "hussin alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>, "'IFBB'" <internacional@santonja.com>, w.tierney2@ukonline.co.uk, "'Pamela Kagan'" <pkagan@ifbbpro.com>, "'Dr. Eng. Adel Fahim'" <efbb@tedata.net.eg>
Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 2:00 PM
Dear Mauricio de Arruda Campos
IFBB Anti-Doping Commission
You are on the witch-hunt and like a head hunter from the Amazons that is why you came from BRAZIL to work and a paid staff for the IFBB Corporation in Spain and you are taking instructions from your so called SENIOR OFFICERS before you use to call them EXECUTIVE MEMBERS. I know the real reason why because now it is a CORPORATION and you need to call them as SENIOR OFFICERS. The present IFBB is a money making organization, therefore, it is convenient for you and your Senior Officers to expel, suspend and punish anyone who speaks up for JUSTICE, DEMOCRACY AND FAIR PLAY. YOU and your SENIOR OFFICERS game is to suspend, gag people, blind-fold them and expel them. How many more to come? If you have power to kill us under Article 20.1, you will use it to kill all of us: Blind-fold and shoot us. You have all the privileges to take action and trust me for every action there will be a reaction. Let me ask you and your SENIOR OFFICERS the following questions and if you are a gentleman, would you reply my questions:
1. WHY THE IFBB DID NOT SUSPEND THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE:
a) Tony Blinn, Rafael Santonja, Pamela Kagan and yourself for attempting to cheat and hide the doping case of Jose of Brazil and trying to reduce his suspension period from 2 years to one (1) year and by mistake by the will of the ALMIGHTY GOD you guys sent a copy to Mr. Paul Chua and we provided this information to the Malaysian Bodybuilding Federation and they pressed an answer. After getting the letter from Malaysia, you then acted and suspended the Brazilian bodybuilder Jose, otherwise, you and your SENIOR OFFICERS would have definitely kept it under wrap and hide it. ANSWER THIS QUESTION??? Why Tony Blinn told Mr. Chua that he will resign. He knows that this was a CHEATING CASE and therefore all you: Tony, Rafael, Mauricio and Pamela must be SUSPENDED. Since you are a business CORPORATION, I know it is difficult for you all to take action, one covering another's shit therefore all of you must RESIGN.
I quote some of Tony's statements herewith...whose rules are these WADA or the IFBB:
1)I don't believe WADA would agree with such a decision; however, even more important than WADA, we have to do what's in the best interests of the IFBB first and foremost. And we all seem to agree that it's not in our best interests to suspend Mr. Santos for two years.
2)Keep in mind that a one-year suspension would run from November 6, 2008 to November 5, 2009 inclusive. In Dubai, November 4 is the Weigh-in; November 5 is the Prejudging; November 6 is the Finals. Because his suspension must end in time for the Weigh-in, you could suspend him for "one year less a day".
THE ABOVE IS A CLEAR INDICATION OF CHEATING TO COVER-UP THE DOPING CASE AND WHY ALL OF YOU ARE REMAINING SILENT ON THIS MATTER AND BARKING AND DIGGING THE 2005 INCIDENTS. YOU MOTIVE WAS TO CHEAT!!!!!
b) We also notice that Ms. Pamela Kagan signed some documents in which Mr. Paul Chua did not attend the meetings and he was not even a Director of the IFBB Inc. in Canada, why you and your so called SENIOR OFFICERS are not taking any actions on this matter. This is PERJURY case and it is serious. Why you skip and ignore this matter. It will surely affect your IFBB COMPANY and you are frightened. Your Boss Rafael is the President and Director of this IFBB Inc. in Canada and now own IFBB Spain Corporation. You receive SALARY therefore you take instructions and write to all of us. You are HIS MASTERS VOICE.
c) What action IFBB had taken against EYGPT Bodybuilding Federation, which yearly they have doping cases, in 2004 IFBB Championship, in World Games 2005, in Check Republic 2006, In Jeju – Korea 2007, and in Bahrain 2008. THIS IS THE MOST SERIOUS DOPING VIOALTION WHICH IFBB DID NOT TAKING ANY ACTION, WHICH IS AGAINST THE WADA RULES. Can you explain this to me, I know you don't have any answer to this, because it is very clear that YOU VIOLATE THE WADA RULES BY NOT TAKING ANY ACTION.
d) NINETEEN COUNTRIES (19) PLUS EIGHT (8) countries defied and went ahead and supported the ABBF Extra-Ordinary Congress in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia on 22nd April, 2009. Will you DARE to suspend them? Will you dare to apply your IFBB Corporation rules under 20.1 to punish them. All officials and the federations are not afraid of your IFBB Corporation, you have exposed in nude at the Extra-Ordinary Congress. The ABBF is open and frank in their discussion and they were not afraid. Whereas you and your SENIOR OFFICERS suspend people and have not called for an Extra-Ordinary Meeting. I know the reasons why: There are so many things that you and your IFBB Corporation cannot answer. Banking Accounts, Monies received from IFBB Inc. Payments made under Rafael's company for all invoices; Professional fees, Registration fees etc etc. So many dirt's to clean up. You all are AFRAID as simple as that. Who pays your salary monthly?????
Shame on you and your SENIOR OFFICERS always threatening to write to governments and other authorities, is this the way of an INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION to behave to harm people with atrocities punishment. No other International Federation in the world will do all these barbaric and stupid act. Why you guys are afraid and you will be exposed more of your ruthless gangster behavior to the world.
The saying befits the IFBB CORPORATION: A POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK
Mohamed Abdulrahim Abdulla
Executive Vice-President - ABBF
WFF-International Official Information Only
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Šiandien gavome dar viena laišką publikacijai forume. Azijos spauda publikuoja Azijos IFBB kongreso nutarimą atsisveikinti su privačia IFBB korporacija-federacija:

From: mohd abdulla <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: Re: AL WAQT NEWSPAPER - BAHRAIN TODAY 01.05.09
To: "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "hussin alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 2:18 PM

DEAR ALL,
TODAY AL WAQT NEWSPAPER ABOUT OUR MEETING IN MALYSIA, 27 COUNTRIES SAID YES TO ABBF, AND SAID NO TO IFBB DECISION, IN SPITE IFBB TRYED THEIR BEST TO PREVENT GTHERING IN THIS MEETING, BUT THEY FIALED. 19 COUNTRIES PRESENT, 8 COUNTRIES SUPPORTED OFFICIAL LETTERES, 5 APPOLOGIZED (CHINA, JAPAN, INDIA, BANGLADESH AND KOREA), AND 6 WAS ABSCENT (JORDON, PALASTINE, SYRIA, LEBANON, QATAR, BAHRAIN).
MOHAMED BDULRAHIM SAID THAT WE GOT THE SUPPORT FROM THE MAJORITY OF ASIAN FEDERATION, AND THE CASE AGAINST THE IFBB WILL CONTINUE AFTER SUPPORT OF ALL THE COUNTRIES ATTENETED THE MEEETING, AND ABBF WILL NOT FOLLOW THE IFBB DECISION, BECUASE THERE IS NO FEDERATION REGISTERED AND RECOGNIZED BY IOC, BUT THERE IS IFBB REGISTERED UNDER CORPORATION.
WFF-International Official Information Only
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WFF secretary service Wrote:Šiandien gavome dar viena laišką publikacijai forume. Azijos spauda publikuoja Azijos IFBB kongreso nutarimą atsisveikinti su privačia IFBB korporacija-federacija:

From: mohd abdulla <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: Re: AL WAQT NEWSPAPER - BAHRAIN TODAY 01.05.09
To: "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "hussin alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 2:18 PM

DEAR ALL,
TODAY AL WAQT NEWSPAPER ABOUT OUR MEETING IN MALYSIA, 27 COUNTRIES SAID YES TO ABBF, AND SAID NO TO IFBB DECISION, IN SPITE IFBB TRYED THEIR BEST TO PREVENT GTHERING IN THIS MEETING, BUT THEY FIALED. 19 COUNTRIES PRESENT, 8 COUNTRIES SUPPORTED OFFICIAL LETTERES, 5 APPOLOGIZED (CHINA, JAPAN, INDIA, BANGLADESH AND KOREA), AND 6 WAS ABSCENT (JORDON, PALASTINE, SYRIA, LEBANON, QATAR, BAHRAIN).
MOHAMED BDULRAHIM SAID THAT WE GOT THE SUPPORT FROM THE MAJORITY OF ASIAN FEDERATION, AND THE CASE AGAINST THE IFBB WILL CONTINUE AFTER SUPPORT OF ALL THE COUNTRIES ATTENETED THE MEEETING, AND ABBF WILL NOT FOLLOW THE IFBB DECISION, BECUASE THERE IS NO FEDERATION REGISTERED AND RECOGNIZED BY IOC, BUT THERE IS IFBB REGISTERED UNDER CORPORATION.

azijieciai aktyvus be galo
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IFBB BE KAUKĖS
Šiandien šiame forume vyriausias IFBB federacijos-korporacijos finansininkas paviešino laišką.
Paskutiniu metu IFBB grasina savo nariams, kad nekeltų galvos ir tylėtų. Tačiau daugelis netyli.
Dar neseniai su įvairiais oponentais ginčijomės dopingo, anti-dopingo, WADA klausimais.
Ir štai – šio laiško rezume, pagal kurią matome, kad IFBB federacija-korporacija:
- nuolatos nesilaikė ir laužė WADA anti-dopingo taisykles
- nesilaikė dopingo testavimo procedūrų tvarkos
- dopingo testų rezultatai buvo slepiami, iškraipomi ir neteisingai pateikiami visuomenei, o dažnai visai nepateikiami
- už tam tikrą sumą, sumokėtą IFBB, buvo galima bausmę už dopingo naudojimą sumažinti arba jos visai išvengti
- dopingo testų skaičius ir kokybė labai skiriasi nuo to, ką deklaruoja IFBB.
(detaliai skaitykite šį laišką patys).
Laiško autorius duoda RAFAELIUI SANTOCHAI apmąstyti savo grasinimus 7 dienas, po to žada kreiptis į teismą.



From: mohd abdulla <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: Read my answer in RED color and advice before sending to Mauricio.
To: "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 2:12 AM

Dear Prof. Mauricio,
Please read my answer to your email in RED color.
As you know, the IFBB is a Signatory to the WADA Code and, through its anti-doping rules, conforms to the Code. Sorry to tell you that IFBB not following the WADA rules, if yes:
1. Why you hide the doping result of Jose Santos from your country Brazil .
2. Why you do random doping test of top sex by testing 2 only ( random ) – you must test top three, the medalist and then random for the others in each category, during the IFBB world Men's Bodybuilding Championship, I will answer you to reduce your positive case.
From 19 samples you had 8 positive, and God knows how many other you are hiding. You have almost 45% positive in an event by random test, and God know if you have tested top six in each category, I grantee you that your rate will be above 60%, what a shame.
In spite the ABBF do the top six doping test which means that in each championship 54 will be tested, and the percentage of positive will be 20% or even less, and asked all to be tested 4 weeks before the championship, NOW TELL ME WHO IS FOLLOWING THE , see the different.
3. Why your medical team collect total of 50ml of urine for one athlete, and kept 25 ml in each sample bottles ( A, B ), as per the WADA rules the "A" sample bottle must contain minimum 50 ml and "B" sample bottle 25 ml. IFBB medical committee team make a big mistake, and violate the WADA doping rules.
4. if you are following the WADA rules, why you reduced the suspention of 2 athekltes from QATAR in the year of 2004 from 2 years to 9 months, and with the penalty of 10.000 US $ per each, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THIS VIOLATUION, AND BASED ON WHICH ARTICLES IN THE IFBB DOIPNT RULES AND WADA RULES.
5. Again you reduced the life banned of on the above athlete from life banned to 8 month in order to participate IN 2008 IFBB Championship. Again can you explain to me in which constitution written this action which IFBB had taken? THIS IS AGIANST THE WADA RULES.
As you are aware, the IFBB, with the assistance of WADA, is conducting an investigation into the potentially serious violation of Olympic Council of Asia anti-doping rules, IFBB anti-doping rules and the WADA Code related to the results management of thirteen adverse analytical findings from the Asian Bodybuilding Championships, Andong City , South Korea , October 7-8, 2005. Why now you are investigating, where was the IFBB in the year of 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008, and why now you are investigating? Yes I was the chairman of the hearing committee at that time and I gave full proposal reports to the ABBF president in the year of 2005, 2006.
Your involvement in this matter derives from your part as chairman of a “hearing committee” that allegedly decided, contrary to IFBB anti-doping rules and the WADA Code, to reduce the two-year suspensions to three Hong Kong bodybuilders (who were among the thirteen adverse analytical findings mentioned above) to one year so they may compete in the Asian Games, Doha, Qatar, December 8-9, 2006. I gave proposal, and as I told, you must investigate the matter with the ABBF president in the year of 2005, and 2006.. We gave our proposal, and did not make any action, AGAIN AND AGAIN I REFERE YOU THE ABBF PRESIDENT AT THAT TIME.
On July 14-15, 2008, two and one-half years after the event, at the Singapore embassy in Bangkok , Thailand , you and other officials signed “statutory declarations” that appear manufactured to justify irregularities in the results management of doping controls at the 2005 Asian Bodybuilding Championships. Yes I gave my statement, and said the fact and the truth about our hearing committee proposal, WE DID NOT VIOLATE THE WADA RULES.
Despite requests from the IFBB that you turn over all documents in your possession related to this case, you refuse to do so. You must ask the ABBF president in the year of 2005 – 2006 this question, because I gave all the reports to his office, and he should be blamed and not me. I did not refuse to give any documents, and sorry to tell that you are wrong, I answered you that I send the documents to the ABBF president's Office.
In an unrelated matter, the IFBB is also investigating a potential violation by you of the WADA Code with respect to the confidentiality and reporting of doping controls conducted at the IFBB Men’s World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships, Manama , Bahrain , November 6, 2008. IFBB Violated the WADA rules.
1. I have wrote to the laboratory in Tunisia to send all the doping results (21 Samples) to IFBB and the WADA, I have the letter which I send, and even you have the letter, because cc to you.
2. You wrote to laboratory not to send the results to Bahrain W/L & bodybuilding federation.
3. I never announce or wrote anything about doping results in Newspapers, media.
4. I became to know from your CORPORATION by sending wrong emails to us by mistake, about the hiding the doping of Brazilian athlete.
5. What action IFBB had taken against EYGPT Bodybuilding federation, which yearly they have doping cases, in World Games 2005, IFBB Men's Championship in Check Republic 2006, In Jeju – Korea 2007, and in Bahrain in 2008. THIS IS THE MOST SERIOUS DOPING VIOALTION WHICH IFBB DID NOT TAKING ANY ACTION, WHICH IS AGAINST THE WADA RULES. Can you explain this to me, I know you don't have any answer to this, because it is very clear that YOU VIOLATE THE WADA RULES BY NOT TAKING ANY ACTION.
Given the seriousness of these investigations, on behalf of the senior officers of the IFBB, I convey to you their decision to provisionally suspend you, effective this date, pending further investigation and hearing. YOU ARE TAKING ABOUT SERIOUSNESS OF THESE INVASTIGATION, WHAT YOU MEAN BY THIS, I HAVE THE WRITE TO KNOW ALL OF THESE SERIOUS MATTERS WHICH YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
THE ONE TO BE BANNED:
IS YOUR CORPORATION WHICH CALLED IFBB BY VIOLATING THE WADA RULES AS I MENTIONED ABOVE?
YOUR MEDICAL COMMITTEE WHICH THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO COLLECT TH SAMPLES.
YOU BY HIDING THE DOPING RESULTS.
YOU BANNED FROM WHAT CAN YOU EXPALIN???
I HOPE YOU CAN ANSWER ME WITHIN 7 DAYS OF MY EMAIL, IF NOT I WILL CONSULT MY LAWYER TO SUE YOU AND THE YOUR CORPORATION FOR THREATENING.
Mr. Mohamed Abdulrahim Abdulla,
WFF-International Official Information Only
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Šiandien gautas Azijos šalių IFBB vice prezidento pakistaniečio Nasser Pouralifard laiškas.
Tai dar vienas laiškas, kurį IFBB vadovai prašo paviešinti forume, liudijantis apie IFBB žaidimus su WADA organizacija, kai kai kurie pozityvūs sportininkų mėginiai slepiami, WADA apgaudinėjama, sankcijos vieniems sportininkams taikomos, kitiems netaikomos, kai pritaikytų sankcijų visai nesilaiko IFBB federacija ir.t.t.t.t


2009-05-10
To: International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness
Mr. Rafael Santonja
President
Calle Jaen, No.8
18020 Madrid, Spain

Dear Mr. Santonja,
Reference: Kamal Abdul Salam of Qatar
At the Men's World Bodybuilding Championships 2008 in the City of Manama, Bahrain, the Qatari athlete KAMAL ABDUL SALAM took 1st place in the category Men's Bodybuilding up to and including 85kg. Iran's athletes Mahri Ayadi took 3rd place and Aggeli Abbas 6th place in the same category.
1. At the Men's World Bodybuilding Championships 2003 in Mumbai/India Qatar's athlete Kamal Abdul Salam took 2nd place, but was later on disqualified due to Anti-Doping Rules Violation for a period of 2 years. Only 8 months after this suspension Qatar athlete Kamal Abdul Salam competed again in the Asian Championships 2004.
At the time of the Anti-Doping Rule Violation committed by Qatar athlete Kamal Abdul Salam at the Men's World Bodybuilding Championships 2003 in Mumbai/India the relevant documents containing the IFBB Rules governing doping control were:
- IFBB Constitution 2003 Edition
- IFBB Anti-Doping Program, 2002 Edition
-IFBB Directives 2002-004 and 2002-005
The sanctions on individuals stipulated in the IFBB Anti-Doping program at that time contained, that the doping offence pursuant to Article 9.1.1 of the program calls for an imposition of a suspension of 2 years for the first violation (SECOND VIOLATION: LIFE TIME SUSPENSION).
Was the athlete Kamal Abdul Salam reinstated following a proper reinstatement procedure (as per WADA) as outlined in the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules before he competed again in the Asian Championships? If not, why was he allowed to compete in the Asian Championships 2004? Who made the decision to reduce the 2 years suspension to a period of more or less 8 months? (We know that you were the No.2 person as the Executive Assistant to the IFBB President during this period).
2. In August 2007 athlete Kamal Abdul Salam had to undergo Anti-Doping Control again conducted by the Qatar Weightlifting & Bodybuilding Federation as the Anti-Doping Organization. According to the certificate of analysis of the WADA accredited laboratory in Penang/Malaysia of 30th August 2007 the sample collected from athlete Kamal Abdul Salam contained "metandienone metabolites". In spite of this adverse analytical finding (AAF), athlete Kamal Abdul Salam was entitled to compete in the Asian Championships, because the Qatar Weightlifting & Bodybuilding Federation concealed the AAF and arranged for a forged certificate to prove, that this athlete has tested negative.
In October 2007 the Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation (ABBF) conducted disciplinary measures against the Qatar Weightlifting & Bodybuilding Federation (QWBBF), which led to a suspension of QWBBF and a fine because of the submission of a forged certificate of analysis dated 20th August, 2007 pertaining to Kamal Abdul Salam together with it's purpose of cheating the ABBF.
Later on the decision of the ABBF was approved by the IFBB Executive Council and Congress in Jeju/Korea 2007. Following the proceedings QWBBF appealed to the IFBB President and the sanction imposed on QWBBF was amended by reducing the suspension to 12 months and quashing the fine.
Although athlete Kamal Abdul Salam was found positive again in August 2007 he received only a one year suspension from QWBBF, although according to the applicable Anti-Doping Rules of the IFBB for the 2nd offence a life time suspension is obligatory. How is it possible, that this athlete was allowed to compete in the Men's World Bodybuilding Championships 2008 in the City of Manama/Bahrain and subsequently in the Qatar Golden Cup? We appreciate your comments to this intolerable situation by 10 days notice.
Yours sincerely
Nasser Pouralifard
President - Iran Bodybuilding Federation
Vice-President, Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation
WFF-International Official Information Only
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Šiandien IFBB vyriausias finansininkas atsiuntė dar vieną laišką paviešinimui apie NPC.
Mes jau anksčiau teigėme, kad NPC nerimta organizacija.
Ji registruota Ilinojaus valstijoje ir gali veikti tik Ilinojaus valstijoje. Be to, jos veikla prieš 10 metų sustabdyta...
JAV nedalyvauja IFBB veikloje, o JAV nacionalinė rintinė jau 20metų nedalyvauja IFBB pasaulio čempionatuose.


Dear Rafael,
I am appalled that you haven’t removed Jim Manion from the IFBB given that he hasn’t attended any congress of the IFBB for the past six years and shows no consideration for your federation and your rules.
It seems like you are afraid of him. Why don’t you ban his NPC for not obtaining any sanction from the IFBB when he organizes the NPC competion in the USA?
You didn’t even protect Mr. Powel Frilborn when he objected to the fact that NPC was not following the rules of IFBB.
They totally disregarded the so called IFBB constitution and contest rules at the Arnold Classis.
Was that the way that an international President should play his role?, double standards and a scar crow?
You told Paul Chua that it is very important for you to associate with Jim Lorrimer and slowly capture the USA market by participating in the Arnold Classic. Therefore you need to be “friendly with Jim” and that you need to “play politics” with him.
As you can see from the past years, NPC of USA - under Jim Manion, is not bothered with the IFBB World Championships as they didn’t participate in any event.
I am urging you to step forward and answer these questions. You are pretty queit because you are ashamed and have lost the respect from many nations.
Mohamed Haleem
Maldives
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Nėra laiko užsiiminėti vertimais.
Šiaulių „propagandininkas“ jo turi kur kas daugiau, išsivers...
Trumpai reziumuosiu.
Šiandien gavome paviešinimui forume dar vieną IFBB vyriausiojo finansininko laišką, su pridedamais dokumentais.
Dokumentai eilinį kartą liudija, kad IFBB federacija neegzistuoja, yra tik privati korporacija.
Pavadinimas IFBB ir konstitucija ne tokie, kaip skelbiama.
Santykiai su GAISF, švelniai tariant, migloti...
IFBB korporacija iš Kanados atkeliavo į Ispaniją, bet IFBB federacijos kaip nebuvo, taip ir nėra iki šiol...
Žodžiu, kas buvo teisus – akivaizdu.



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Reference: The legal status of the IFBB/EBFF

Dear colleagues and members,
pertaining to the attached document “The legal status of the IFBB” issued by the head office Madrid, Spain I am rendering the following comments:
1. Historical background – The legal status of the IFBB in Canada:
Apparently the IFBB – now even according to the position of the IFBB Head Office in Madrid/Spain – came into existence as a legal entity (under the laws of Canada) only by December 30th 1969 in the shape of “International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc.”. Allegedly on 4th September 1970, at the 1st IFBB International Congress in Belgrad (former Yugoslavia) the IFBB (that was founded by Joe and Ben Weider 1946 in Montreal/Canada) adopted its 1st Constitution and Rules and elected its 1st Executive Committee.
By that time the Canadian Corporation already existed and it would be interesting to know if that was mentioned at this Congress and if the Executive Committee, that was elected at the IFBB International Congress was identical to the then directors of the Corporation.
IFBB Head Office Madrid/Spain asserts, that under Canadian law, letters patent and general bylaws are completely separate documents and filings. Where as letters patent is the equivalent of articles of incorporation for profit companies, general bylaws are rules that govern the internal management of an organisation.
Does that mean, that the IFBB Constitution is identical to the general bylaws of the corporation, if yes, why was it never mentioned, that the IFBB Constitution is just the general bylaws of the corporation?
If the general bylaws of the corporation are not identical to the IFBB Constitution (that is published on the internet www.ifbb.com), why were the members never informed about these general bylaws and why was the existence of the corporation, it´s letters patent and it´s bylaws never mentioned anywhere in any Executive Council Meeting, Congress and official publication, including the official website www.ifbb.com?
From the website of AGFIS (General Asociation of International Sports Federations – GAIFS) International Federation of Bodybuidling & Fitness is mentioned as member International Sports Federation, but it can not be seen when International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness was founded and since when it is a member of AGFIS.
From the position of the IFBB Head Office Madrid/Spain, it still remains mysterious if they consider the corporation to be one and the same entity as the International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness or not.
Since the name of the IFBB was changed at the Congess on 7th November 2004 in Moscow/Russia from International Federation of Bodybuilders to “International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness” and the name of the Corporation remained “International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc.” until today this question bears even more relevance. If the general bylaws are only the rules that govern the internal management of an Organisation, then the IFBB Constitution (published on the internet www.ifbb.com) definitely is not the general bylaws of the corporation.
If IFBB INC and IFBB were one and the same entity why then did the resolution of the IFBB Congress of 7th November 2004 change only the name of the IFBB but not of IFBB Inc.?

Under section 3 of the joint declaration of July 2007 the term “international bylaws” is mentioned referencing section 6.1. of the international bylaws of the corporation. Does that mean that the international bylaws (are they identical to the general bylaws?) are the IFBB Constitution published on www.ifbb.com? The IFBB Constitution definitely not only contains regulations for it´s internal management, but also rules, for it´s representation. A Canadian corporation can usually only operate in Canada. Is that the reason why under section 2 of the joint declaration it is mentioned, that the corporation “de facto” – and not in law -is an International Organisation?
2. The transition:
If the Corporation and the International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness are one and the same Organisation, why was it then necessary to produce minutes of a (fictuous?) special general meeting of the members of the corporation on October 29th 2006 (the minutes were signed by Pamela Kagan, Secretary of the meeting) – that meeting is also mentioned in the joint declaration under section 4 (on October 29th, 2006, Dr. Ben Weider retired as President, Director and Member of the Corporation and Dr. Rafael Santonja, a Spanish Citizen residing in Madrid, was elected President of the corporation by unanimous decision).
Why it is not mentioned in Article 7 of the IFBB Constitution (www.ifbb.com), that it is a Canadian Non – for – Profit Corporation that was founded on December 30th 1969? The joint declaration was signed by Ben Weider and Rafael Santonja. At the time of the signature of this document (July 2007) Ben Weider was not director of the corporation (he retired on 29th October 2006) and also not President of the International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness. Rafael Santonja at that time was President of International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness and President of the corporation. Why was this joint declaration signed without any prior information to the Executive Council and Congress of the International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness, and why was this joint declaration not even mentioned afterwards during the Executive Council Meetings and Congresses in 2007 (Jeju) and 2008 (Manama)? How can such important business be done without the prior approval of the Congress?
3. The legal status of the IFBB in Spain:
Asociacion – Federacion Internacional de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (AFIFF) was founded on September 14th 2007 by the Spanish, French and Austrian National Bodybuilding & Fitness Federations affiliated with IFBB with Dr. Rafael Santonja, Axel Bauer, José Ramos and Philippe Lefelle being its Directors. Up to this date no meeting in this Spanish Corporation took place (at least not with my information and consent).
How can this corporation become the “legal and natural successor to International Federation of Bodybuilders” as it existed in Canada without an agreement between these two legal entities and the members? In the information of the IFBB Head Office, Madrid, Spain it is asserted:
“The transfer of accounts from Montreal to Madrid was carried out in a legal, transparent and professional manner in compliance with the laws of Canada and Spain.”
It is not described what precise measures were taken and which resolutions between the two legal entities (International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc./Asociacion – Federacion Internacional de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness) were made to support this claim. I am the Vice President of AFIFF and the Austrian Federation is founding member of this Spanish Corporation. I am neither aware of any meetings or transactions or other business carried out by the Spanish Corporation other than that a membership application (Certificate of Membership to the IFBB) was handed out (that document allegedly was prepared by Rafael Santonja´s lawyer Javier Sanchez) to be signed by the European National Federations present at the EBFF Congress in May 2008 in Playa de Aro/Spain.
Under section 5 of this document it is mentioned, that International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc. was dissolved and closed down in 2007 arranging the follow up of it´s activity by the AFIFF as successor at universal titel.
In the joint declaration however nothing is mentioned about the corporation in Spain becoming the successor at universal titel of International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc. It is mentioned though, that the balance of accounts of the corporations bank accounts shall be transfered to the account of the non profit spanish corporation.
Since now the Madrid Head Office can not deny anymore the existence of the corporations in Canada and Spain, they have to come forward with sort of an explanation, which is still incomplete, utterly misleading and unlogical.
According to the IFBB Financial Report 2006/2007 (rendered by José Ramos, IFBB Treasurer) on November 1st 2006 IFBB received an income from the Professional League of Canadian $ 100.000,00 and another Canadian $ 100.000,00 in the form of “Sponsorship Contract by companies Hardcore and Santonja Fitness Point”.
In Rafael Santonja´s e-mail to me of 10th March 2009 he refers to a person named Luc Autet, who – allegedly – claims, that all monies (of IFBB Inc.) “were sent to Dr. Santonja, to my knowlegde”. If the Professional League transfered 100.000,00 Canadian Dollars to “IFBB” (does that mean AFIFF?) and hardcore and Santonja Fitness Point (what are the names of these companies –Equipos Cardiovasculares S. L.? FITNESS POINT S. L.?) paid $ 100.000,00 on the basis of a “Sponsorship Contract”, then where is this Sponsorship Contract and where are the 100.000,00 Canadian Dollars from IFBB Inc.?
According to Canadian Law a non profit organization in order to be dissolved must:
- have no assets;
or
- if the corporation had assets, they have been:
1. Distributed among other recognized charitable corporations in Canada;
2. Distributed among other corporations in Canada possibly having the same or similar objects, or
3. rateably divided among the members; and
- has no debts, liabilities or other obligations; or
- that the debts, liabilities or other obligations have been duly provided for.
Even by 29th April 2009 the International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc. is still on the government registries and has not filed annual declarations since 2007 (federal) or 2005 (provincially).
The statement of the Madrid Head Office pertaining to “the legal status of the IFBB” completely forgets/ conceals the proceedings that happened in 2005 pertaining to the segregation of assets (creating a new corporation named IFBB Professional League and transfer of all assets of International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc. save an amount of 100.000,00 Canadian Dollars to the new corporation). Please note again, that the minutes of the general special meeting of the board of directors held (allegedly) at the head office of the corporation on 16th May 2005 listed the following persons as present:
- Ben Weider
- Eric Weider
- Paul Chua
- Pamela Kagan
- Rafael Santonja
The resolutions that were made at this meeting practically deprived IFBB Inc. of all it´s properties save an amount of 100.000,00 Canadian Dollars!!!
Nothing like that was ever mentioned in any Congress held thereafter (Congress 2005 Shanghai/China, Congress 2006 Ostrava/Czech Republic; Congress 2007 Jeju/Korea; Congress 2008 Manama/Bahrain). To the Congress it was only explained, that the split of the Amateur Division and the Professional Division was necessary because of doping controls. The professionals didn´t want to perform doping controls, so their activities must be split from the activities of the Amateur Division (that accepted Anti-Doping Controls).
I am attaching again the Minutes of IFBB Inc. special meeting of May 16th 2005 and since this document “The Legal Status of the IFBB” from the IFBB Head Office Madrid/Spain was produced and published I have to refer to Rafael Santonja´s fax to me of 26th January 2007 that attached the Minutes of the General Special Meeting of IFBB Inc. of May 16th 2005 and October 29th 2006, when he wrote:
“Dear Axel:
It was nice to talk with you yesterday. Attached is the document I mentioned you..
By the document we can see now a corporation from which I never heard before. Since October 2006, I got no information, nothing at all.. Now, we get this document that, you will see, is just amazing.
In a first lecture, IFBB is a trademark that belongs to a person giving rights to a corporation................. from which I am member without knowing it (not only member, I am Chairman!). The corporation deceided to make me Chairman until next year annual meeting!!) Now, all the attempts from Tony to hide the Ostrava results make sense.
All the accounts are ok, what accounts? I never received a single number!
(Note: talk about transparency!!!)
Please, read it carefully and will talk on it later.
I will do my best to handle this situation with the minimum noise. I would talk with Ben on this, it is unacceptable and it will be scandal when people realise about this. We will find the best way.
Basically, I feel confident in the future, I am very sorry for somebody, and I am going to put this 100% in line in the most discrete manner.
I am travelling outside Madrid, but I shall be back at the office in the afternoon.
Enjoy the lecture,
Rafael”
In January 2007 Rafael Santonja judged the proceedings that happend 2005 and 2006 (referenced in the Minutes – General Special Meetings of IFBB Inc. of May 16th, 2005 and October 29th, 2006) a “scandal”!
Now in the information of IFBB Head Office Madrid, Spain headlined “the legal status of the IFBB” he leads people to believe, that this “scandal” is business as usual! Now that these circumstances in IFBB came to light (segregation of assets, two sets of bylaws and Executive Councils, questionable money transfer, etc.) it seems necessary to enforce an investigation by qualified experts (auditing company; lawyers) to produce a clear objective picture especially with respect to the elections 2010.
I investigated again the legal status of the IFBB in Spain with the help of a brilliant Spanish lawyer, that produced the following findings:
1. The entity named International Federation of Bodybuilding and Fitness/IFBB has no legal presence in Spain (whether in the form of a branch, a subsidiary or an established local company).
2. The International Federation of Bodybuilding and Fitness/IFBB, under this denomination, is not an association/trust/officially recognized sports body in Spain.
3. There are approximately 15 registered associations in Spain, that have names related to the Spanish equivalents of Bodybuilding/Fitness. Three of them are openly connected with our president, Dr. Rafael Satonja:
- Asociacion-Federacion Internacional de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (AFIFF)
The AFIFF is domiciled in Madrid. Documents indicate that Mr. Santonja acts as the chairman of this association. The AFIFF was formed on 14th September 2007. In Dr. Santonja’s terminology, this appears to be the “International Federation”.
- Asociacion-Federacion Europea de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (AFEFF)
The AFEFF has the same address in Madrid as the AFIFF. The AFEFF was formed on 11th April 2008. In Dr. Santonja’s terminology, this appears to be the “European Federation”.
- Federacion Espanola de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (AFESFF)
The AFESSF was one of the three founding members of the AFIFF (and shares a postal address with the AFIFF for notification purposes). Interestingly, its declared purpose is not sport or bodybuilding, but “excursions”. The AFESFF was formed on 25th November 2004. In Mr. Santonja’s terminology, this appears to be the “Spanish Federation”.
4. A community trademark “IFBB Pro” has been requested under application number 7237514 by an entity (IFBB Professional League) domiciled at the same address in Canada, where IFBB Inc. has its headquarters. The filing was made on 17th September 2008, well after the AFIFF had been formed in Spain. If granted the trademark would be fully enforceable in Spain (note that the AFIFF does not appear to use the IFBB denomination at all, just that of the AFIFF, but any activity carried out under IFBB named in Europe should ordinarily be approved by the IFBB trademark holders).
5. The Spanish High Council for Sports (CSD) has confirmed, that despite using the term “federacion”, non of these entities (AFIFF/AFEFF/AFESFF) is officially recognized as a sports federation in accordance with the Spanish law. Some of them are registered within this category by the associations’ registry, because the officials understand, that they are a grouping of smaller associations (which appears not in fact to be truth).
6. “IFBB head office, Madrid, Spain” is just a shabby shop, that does not contain any signage/banners notifying this place to be the official head office of International Federation of Bodybuilding and Fitness/AFIFF/AFEFF. This place/”office” is the official address of a company named “Equipos Cardiovasculares S..L.” (a peculiar denomination since the denomination “Cardiovascular Equipment” refers to medical devices, not to bodybuilding activities as the other three companies of Rafael Santonja – Aerofitness S.L., Fitness Endurance S.L. and Todo Fitness S.L.). Dr. Rafael Santonja is the sole administrator of this company. Its corporate purpose is selling of foods, clothing and sporting and gymnastics materials and shoes (which is not consistent with the corporate denomination). It appears that, as from 2006, a lady called Elisea Sanchez is the manager of the company, although the corporate power would be still in the hands of Mr. Santonja. As from 2008, this company is the legal owner of several trademarks (PENTAMATRIX, HARDCORE LIP OFF, HARDCORE NO LIMIT). The company was sued for omitting payments to the Spanish Social Security and goods and current account were seized to cover a debt of around € 3.000,00.
Attached please find a picture of our “head quarters”
- a picture says more than a thousand words.
Best regards,
Axel Bauer
WFF-International Official Information Only
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Šiandien IFBB vadovai atsiuntė dar vieną laišką paviešinimui forume.
Laiško esmė tokia:
1. RAFAELIS SANTOCHA grasina nepaklusniom nacionalinėm federacijom
2. IFBB anti-dopingo komitetas slepia nuo visuomenės ir WADA organizacijos teigiamus dopingo testus, už pinigus prasikaltusiems mažina ar visai juos atleidžia nuo bausmės/
3. Iš visų patikrintų sportininkų paprastai 50 procentų būna naudoję dopingą, kas irgi yra slepiama
4. R.SANTOCHA visai nesilaiko IFBB konstitucijos ir svarbius sprendimus priima vienas (pvz. neseniai atšaukė 2009 metų IFBB pasaulio čempionatą Dubajuje. Dėl atšaukimo susidarius nuostoliams( IFBB inspekcijos kelionės ir priėmimo išlaidos, plati reklaminė kampanija ir kt...) arabai paduoda R.SANTOCHĄ į teismą, reikalaudami 500 000 dolerių kompensacijos.
5. R.SANTOCHA bijo probleminių IFBB klausimų viešos diskusijos
6. JAE vadovai suteikia R.SANTOCHAI 48 valandas apmąstymui ir po to perduoda medžiagą teismui


On Fri, 15/5/09, hussin alsaffar <alsafarww73@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: hussin alsaffar <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: DEFAMATION AND LIBEL AGAINST ME
To: "IFBB" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg, "osama al shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "mustafa mahdi" <mustafa_salih2004@yahoo.com>, "Mohd Abd elrahim" <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>, "AXEL BAUER" <rechtsanwaltskanzlei.bauer@chello.at>
Date: Friday, 15 May, 2009, 7:31 PM

DEAR RAFAEL SANTONJA
PRESIDENT OF IFBB INC.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR KIND ATTENTION THAT, HOW DARE YOU WILL WRITE A THREATENING LETTER TO IRAN BODYBUILDING FEDERATION ( IBBF ) IN UN-SPORT MANNER, AND WHICH YOU DEFAMED, AND LIBEL MY NAME IN YOUR LETTER.
PLEASE READ MY ANSWER IN BLUE IN RESPONDING TO YOUR LETTER TO IBBF:
YOUR STATEMENT:
" We wish to bring to your attention Very Serious related to doping controls and the results management of these controls happening in Asia that has affected the Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness federation ( ABBF )"
WOW THE PRESIDENT OF IFBB TALKING ABOUT THE DOPING RESULTS IN ASIA, WHAT ABOUT IFBB , WHICH HAVE VERY SERIOUS DOPING VIOLATION BY HIDING THE RESULTS, AND THE EXAMPLE : HIDING THE JOSE CARLOS DOPING RESULT ( 2008 CHAMPIONSHIP IN BAHRAIN ), AND BY KEEPING SILENT OF THE 9 POSITIVE CASES IN ONE EVENT OF 19 SAMPLES, CAN YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION: WHY YOU AND YOUR COMMITTEE HIDE THE JOSE CARLOSE FROM BRAZIL DOPING RESULT, AND WAS GOING TO MANIPULATE IT ?
YOUR STATEMENT:
" IFBB is a Signatory to the WADA Code & its Anti-doping Rules are in Conformity with the code ..........."
DID YOU SEND THE DOPING RESULTS OF 62nd IFBB WORLD MEN'S BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIP WHICH WAS HELD IN BAHRAIN TO WADA?
I DOUBT, IF YES, YOU WAS NOT ABLE TO HIDE THE BRAZILIAN DOPING RESULT, THIS MEANS YOU ARE ONLY USING THE ABOVE STATEMENT TO CHEAT THE DOPING RESULTS, WHICH A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE, AND AGAINST THE WADA RULES. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
YOUR STATEMENT:
" In 2008, the IFBB began receiving information of the potential Serious Violation of IFBB, Olympic Counsel of Asia, and WADA anti-doping rules that involved the secretary general of the Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness federation ( ABBF ) Mr. Paul Chua of Singapore ......."
CAN YOU ANSWER IF YOU ARE HONEST, SHOW ME THE COMPLAIN WHICH YOU RECEIVED FROM THE ABOVES?
I MEAN OLYMPIC COUNCIL OF ASIA & WADA. MR. PAUL CHUA WAS THE IFBB VICE PRESIDENT FOR ASIA FOR SO MANY YEARS, AND THEN HE WAS YOUR EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, AND YOU KNOW HIM MORE THAN ANY BODY ELSE. HOW COME NOW YOUR ARE INVESTIGATING ALL OF THIS MATTER AFTER YOU REMOVE HIM FROM HIS POST ILLEGALLY AND WITH UNCONSTITUTIONAL DECISION. NOT ONLY THIS YOU ARE ALSO INVOLVED IN THIS CASE.
YOU VIOLATE THE WADA RULES BY TAKING YOUR DECISION, WITHOUT CALLING FOR AN EXTRA ORDINARY IFBB EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING TO DISCUSS MR. CHUA CASE, AND GIVE HIM A FARE HEARING, BUT SORRY TO TELL YOU THAT YOU FAILED TO DO SO, AND TOOK ONE MAN DECISION ONLY WHICH IS YOU POWER, ARTICLE 20.1 IN YOUR CORPORATION CONSTITUTION.
YOUR STATEMENT:
" The case concerned of Hong Kong athletes who were suspended for anti-doping rules violation at the 2005 Asian Bodybuilding Championship ( ABBF ) ......... "
VERY STRANGE, WHERE WAS THE IFBB, AND YOUR GOOD SELF IN THE YEAR OF 2005, AND WHY NOW YOU ARE INVESTIGATING THIS ISSUE NOW, CAN YOU ANSWER THIS SIMPLE QUESTION?
WHAT ABOUT THE DOPING VIOLATION IN THE IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP ON YEARLY BASES, THAT RESULT WHICH YOU PUBLISH IN IFBB WEBSITE, AND GOD KNOWS HOW MANY YOU ARE HIDED, SAME WHEN YOU TRIED TO HIDE THE BRAZILIAN ATHLETE RESULT, BUT THANK GOD TO DISCOVER YOUR SERIOUS VIOLATION.
IFBB VIOLATED VERY SERIOUS DOPING VIOLATION:
1. IN 2007 ABBF CHAMPIONSHIP IN SHANGHAI - CHINA YOU WAS PRESENT IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP, AND ATTEND THE ABBF EXECUTIVE AND CONGRESS MEETING AND AGREED THE DECISION WHICH ABBF TOOK AT THAT TIME AGAINST QATAR FEDERATION, I DON'T WANT TO GO IN DETAILS, AND ALSO YOU APPROVED ABBF DECISION IN IFBB CONGRESS IN JEJU - KOREA 2007.
2. WHY YOU DID NOT ALLOWED QATAR ATHLETES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE 61st IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP IN JEJU - 2007, AND I WAS THE WITNESS IN THE CONGRESS YOU AGREED TO BAN QATAR FEDERATION, AND I SAW HOW ALI TABRIZI WAS BAGGING YOU, AND CRYING TO PARTICIPATE, BUT YOU REFUSED AS IFBB - PRESIDENT & SEND THEM BACK NEXT DAY.
3. IFBB REDUCED THE 2 YEARS SUSPENSION OF 2 QATARIES ATHELETS IN THE YEAR OF 2004 FROM 2 YEARS TO 9 MONTHS, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IN WHICH ARTICLE IN IFBB WRITEN THIS RULES.
THEN YOU REDUCED THE SUSPENSION OD LIFE BANNED FOR ONE QATARY ATHELET NAMED KAMAL ABDULSALAM TO 8 MOTHS IN ORDER TO PARICIPATE IN 2008 CHAMPIONSHIP. CAN YOU AGAIN EXPLAIN TO ME IN WHICH WADA OR IFBB ARTICLE WRITEN THIS RULES? DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS THE MOST SERIOUS DOPING VIOLATION WHICH IS AGIANST WADA RULES EVEN AGAINST NATIOMNAL FEDERATION RULES?
4. EYGPT BODYBUILDING FEDERATION YEARLY, YOU ARE PLACING THEM AS TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP, INSPITE THEY VIOLATE THE DOPING RULES AND REGULATION ACCORDING TO WADA ANIT-DOPING RULES AND IFBB RULES. WHAT ACTION IFBB TAKEN TILL NOW AGAINST EYGPT FEDERATION, YEARLY THEY HAVE POSITIVE CASES, FOR LAST 8 YEARS I HAVE A FULL DOCUMENTS ABOUT THEIR DOPING VIOLATION IN IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP. WHAT ACTION IFBB TAKEN? CAN YOU ANSWER ME THIS VITAL QUESTION????
NOW TELL ME WHO IS VIOLATING THE WADA RULES? IF IFBB IS A SIGNATORY TO THE WADA CODE, AND IT’S ANTI – DOPING RULES, WHY IFBB DOES NOT FOLLOW THESE RULES, AND VIOLATE IT FREQUENTLY.
YOUR STATEMENT:
"To date , the ABBF, Mr. Chua & Mr. Al Safar have failed to co operate....."
CAN YOU SHOW ME THE LETTER WHICH YOU ADDRESSED TO ME AND ASKED WHICH INDICATE THAT I HAVE TO SUBMIT ANY REPORT TO YOU OR TO YOUR COMMITTEE. I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT, THIS MATTER WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE FOUNDER, AND LIFE PRESIDENT OF IFBB, LATE BEN WEIDER, AND YOU WAS THE WITNESS, AND I HAVE A COPY OF LATTER FROM LATE BEN WEIDER REGARDING THIS ISSUE.. HOW COME YOU ARE NOW INVESTIGATING, THIS MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE TRUST IN YOUR BOSS THE LATE BEN WEIDER.
YOUR STATEMENT:
" Mr. Chua and his associates, among them Mr. AL Safar through a campaign of misinformation send largely by anonymous emailers, is attempting to harm the IFBB by malicious, hateful and falls propaganda......"
HOW DARE YOU AS THE PRESIDENT OF IFBB SUPPOSE TO BE ONE THE DEMOCRATIC SPORT ORGANIZATION DEFAMED AND LIBEL MY NAME BY WRITING TO IBBF? ALL YOUR STATEMENT ARE NOT TRUE.
I WROTE TO YOU A LETTER IN A PROFESSIONAL MATTER, BUT TILL NOW YOU FAILED TO ANSWER IT, I HOPE YOU HAVE THE DATE OF MY LETTER, IT IS MORE THAN 3 MOTHS NOW, WHY YOU ARE NOT ANSWERING, IF ANY ONE ASKED FOR HIS RIGHT THEN, HE IS AGAINST YOU AND YOUR CORPORATION?????
WHY YOU CANCELLED THE 63rd IFBB WORLD MEN'S CHAMPIONSHIP FOR THE YEAR 2009 ( 2 - 7 NOVEMBER 2009 ) FROM DUBAI - UAE, CAN YOU GIVE ME:
1. A SINGLE REASON??
2. IN WHICH EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING IFBB TOOK THIS DECISION?
3. WHO WAS PRESENT IN THE MEETING, CAN YOU NAMED THEM.
4. IFBB THROUGH ITS CONGRESS APPROVED THE CHAMPIONSHIP TO BE HELD IN DUBAI IN THE IFBB CONGRESS IN JEJU 2007, AND THEN IN IFBB CONGRESS IN THE YEAR 2008 IN BAHRAIN. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME, HOW COME THE CONGRESS WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS DECISION??
5. UAE HAS THE RIGHT TO SUE YOU,THE IFBB AND COMPENSATE FOR ALL THE EXPENSES WHICH WE SPEND FOR THIS CHAMPIONSHIP, WHICH WILL REACHED TO 500.000 US $, ( INSPECTION EXPENSES, HOTEL BOOKING, TROPHIES, ADVERTISING, AVENUE HALL BOOKING, AND .......,
WE HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS, AND YOU ARE GOING TO RECEIVE A LETTER FROM OUR LAWYER VERY SOON FOR COMPENSATION AS WILL AS A CASE AGAINST YOUR DECISION.
YOUR STATEMENT:
" IFBB has established an interim Commission for Asia, on behalf of IFBB , the office
established in Doha Qatar...."
* DID YOU ASKED THE OCA ABOUT THIS COMMISSION, AND HAVE THE LETTER OF APPROVAL.
* DID YOU ASKED FOR EXTRA ORDINARY EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING TO DISSCUS THIS ISSUE AND TO TAKE THIS DECISION.
* HAVE CAN YOU AS RAFAEL SANTONJA ESTABLISH A COMMISSION IN QATAR WHILE THEY ARE UNDER SUSPENSION, WHICH YOU APPROVE IT IN 2007 AS I MENTIONED IN MY ABOVE STATEMENT.
* DID YOU CONSULT THE ASAIN COUTURIERS WHICH AFFILIATED TO ABBF, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONE TO TAKE SUCH DECISION AND NOT YOU.
* ABBF CONGRESS THE ONLY ONE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE SUCH DECISION.
THEREFORE I HAVE A FULL RIGHT TO ASK OUR LAWYER TO PROCEED A CASE AGAINST YOU FOR:
1. CANCELLATION OF IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP FROM UAE.
2. DEFAMED AND LI BLE MY NAME.
YOU HAVE 48 HOURS FROM DATE, AND TIME OF THIS LETTER TO ANSWER MY QUESTION, AND THIS IS MY RIGHT ACCORDING TO YOUR CONSTITUTION.
PLEASE CONFIRM OF RECEIVING THIS EMAIL.
REGARDS.
HUSSAIN AHMED AL SAFFAR
WFF-International Official Information Only
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edita_wff Wrote:Šiandien IFBB vyriausias finansininkas atsiuntė dar vieną laišką paviešinimui apie NPC.
Mes jau anksčiau teigėme, kad NPC nerimta organizacija.
Ji registruota Ilinojaus valstijoje ir gali veikti tik Ilinojaus valstijoje. Be to, jos veikla prieš 10 metų sustabdyta...
JAV nedalyvauja IFBB veikloje, o JAV nacionalinė rintinė jau 20metų nedalyvauja IFBB pasaulio čempionatuose.


Dear Rafael,
I am appalled that you haven’t removed Jim Manion from the IFBB given that he hasn’t attended any congress of the IFBB for the past six years and shows no consideration for your federation and your rules.
It seems like you are afraid of him. Why don’t you ban his NPC for not obtaining any sanction from the IFBB when he organizes the NPC competion in the USA?
You didn’t even protect Mr. Powel Frilborn when he objected to the fact that NPC was not following the rules of IFBB.
They totally disregarded the so called IFBB constitution and contest rules at the Arnold Classis.
Was that the way that an international President should play his role?, double standards and a scar crow?
You told Paul Chua that it is very important for you to associate with Jim Lorrimer and slowly capture the USA market by participating in the Arnold Classic. Therefore you need to be “friendly with Jim” and that you need to “play politics” with him.
As you can see from the past years, NPC of USA - under Jim Manion, is not bothered with the IFBB World Championships as they didn’t participate in any event.
I am urging you to step forward and answer these questions. You are pretty queit because you are ashamed and have lost the respect from many nations.
Mohamed Haleem
Maldives

Iš šio laiško matyti, kad DŽIMAS MANJONAS su jam nuosavybės teise priklauusančia NPC "dėjo skersą" ant IFBB, per paskutinį ARNOLD CLASSIC turnyrą amerikiečiai ir vėl "dėjo skersą" ant IFBB ir pačio SANTOCHOS, dėl ko labai nervinosi ir pyko nelegalių papildų "specialistas" lenkas FILEBORNAS.
IFBB kultūristai stebisi, kodėl SANTOCHA bijo ir niekaip nereaguoja, juk amerikiečiai tiesiog šika ant jo paties asmeniškai ir ant visos IFBB??? (čia ne aš taip pasakiau, čia taip laiške parašyta...)
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Oficialiame internetiniame puslapyje Lietuvos IFBB pripažįsta, kad ir labai jau "švelniai", susidariusią problemą:

IFBB IR EBFF: IŠBANDYMAI UGNIMI, VANDENIU IR VARINĖMIS TRIŪBOMIS...
Arūnas Petraitis
LKF tinklalapio redaktorius
Pastaruoju metu kultūrizmo ir fitneso visuomenė stebi įvykius, susijusius su IFBB – Tarptautine kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacija. Tiesa, kol kas daugiau internautų interpretacijose, nei oficialių pareiškimų lygyje. Nors keletas jų jau yra irgi.
Kai kas susidariusią situaciją piktdžiugiškai paskubėjo įvertinti kaip IFBB organizacijos mirtį. Bet, panašu, jog su šia žinia yra kiek paskubėta. Tačiau dėl teisybės būtina pasakyti, kad vargu ar IFBB ir kai kurioms jos kontinentinėms sesėms – Europos kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacijai (jai, kaip ir IFBB, vadovauja tas pats asmuo – Rafael Santonja) bei Azijos kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacijai pavyks iškilusi vidinį konfliktą užglaistyti daugmaž tyliai ir visiškai be pasekmių: išbandymai ugnimi (kritikų strėlės), vandeniu (skandinimas ne tik faktais bet ir prasimanymais) ir varinėmis triūbomis (neužtarnautais ditirambais ar pelnyta šlove) parodys, kas yra kas. Žemės drebėjimai be sugriovimų, didesnių ar mažesnių, žinia, nepraeina.
Visos šios istorijos užuomazga tikriausiai galima laikyti Axel Bauer iš Austrijos, kuris yra IFBB patarėjas teisiniais (Legal Advisor) klausimais, taip pat – IFBB Teisėjų komiteto sekretorius ir EBFF (Europos kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacija) generalinis sekretorius. Jis 2009-ųjų pradžioje kreipėsi į IFBB prezidentą Rafael Santonja, norėdamas išsiaiškinti kai kuriuos federacijos „virtuvės“ reikalus. Tačiau konfidenciali korespondencija kažkokiu tai būdu pateko į viešąją erdvę...
Kultūrizmo, sporto šakos, kuri iki dabartinio jos modelio rutuliojosi kiek daugiau nei septynis dešimtmečius, istorija neatsiejama ne tik nuo brolių Joe ir Ben Weider dinastijos, bet ir nuo...sunkiosios atletikos. Juk nežinia kaip būtų pakrypę kultūrizmo kaip sporto formavimasis, jeigu sunkiatlečiai nebūtų jo kažkada...atsisakę.
Mat iki pat 1968 metų Tarptautinė sunkiosios atletikos ir kultūrizmo (FIHC) – būtent taip tada vadinosi dabartinė IWF (Tarptautinė sunkiosios atletikos federacija) globojo ir savo „jaunesnįjį brolį“. Organizuodavo ir kultūristų „Universe“ čempionatus, tiesa, dažniausiai pasibaigus sunkiosios atletikos varžyboms. Kai atsibodo tuo rūpintis, tiesiog metė tai.
Taip vieta „po saule“ liko tuščia...Padedamas ilgamečio FIHC, o vėliau ir IWF funkcionieriaus Oscar State, Ben Weider suskubo padaryti „namų darbus“ – parengti IFBB organizacijos įstatus ir rengtis kelionei į platesnius vandenis.
Axel Bauer – naujas žmogus federacijoje, todėl nėra naftalinu atsiduodančiais „gero diplomatinio tono“ pančiais susaitytas funkcionierius. Jam, beje, ir priklauso pagal užimamas pareigas federacijoje uždavinėti (kartais - ir kai kam nelabai patogius) klausimus, vienaip ar kitaip susijusius su teisiniais federacijos reikalais ? Panašu, jog būtent dėl to ir išsivystė šis konfliktas (ar skirtingų pozicijų pasireiškimas – čia jau kaip kam patogiau visa tai įvardinti).
Pradžia – IFBB statusas ir teisinė registracija. Išsiaiškinta, jog teisinė IFBB registracija užfiksuota 1969 12 30, t.y. prieš IFBB įstojimą į GAISF (Generalinė tarptautinių sporto šakų federacijų asociacija). Pastarosios principas: viena sporto šaka – viena tarptautinė šios sporto šakos federacija, o IFBB ir buvo pirmoji iš tarptautinių kultūristų organizacijų, pasibeldusių į duris.
Finansinės federacijos ataskaitos, sutartys su rėmėjais, tenkinančios vieną, bet netinkančios antrajai pusei – vėlgi, panašu, yra nesusikalbėjimo, informacijos (viešumo) stokos ar požiūrio ir iki tol buvusių nusistovėjusių įpročių skirtumai.
Kaip ir išsiskiriantis sąvokų „korporacija“ (ar tokia nepelno siekiančios organizacijos forma buvo (yra) priimtina bei „asociacija“ supratimas. IFBB vadovai tvirtina, jog dabar Ispanijoje yra registruota ne IFBB korporacija, o asociacija: ispaniškai tai skamba Asociacion-Federacion Internacional de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (steigėjai: Ispanijos, Austrijos ir Prancūzijos federacijos).
Analogiškai – ir Europos federacija (EBFF): Associacion-Federacion Europea de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (steigėjai: Didžiosios Britanijos ir Prancūzijos federacijos).
Kaip reagavo IFBB vadovybė į šiuos, anot, Axel Bauer, „normalius klausimus dėl organizacijos (IFBB / EBFF) legalumo, jos nuostatų, finansinių dalykų bei IFBB vadovų kritikos“ ? Laikinai, kol vyks tyrimas, sustabdė Axel Bauer įgaliojimus IFBB Vykdomajame komitete...Tačiau neatsakytų klausimų, tikėtina, liks...
Dar viena tema, peraugusi į tikras „strėlių laužymo varžybas“, tapo kelerių metų...senumo istorijos, į viešumą iškilusios tik dabar. Tai – Azijos kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacija (ABBF) ir jos dopingo kontrolės klausimai bei sportininkų, susijusių su uždraustų preparatų vartojimu, diskvalifikacija. Taip pat – ir sankcijos už tai.
IFBB apkaltino Azijos kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacijos (ABBF) generalinį sekretorių Datuk Paul Chua, jog šis „užmerkė“ akis ir leido dalyvauti Azijos šalių 2006 m. žaidynėse trims atletams iš Honkongo, kurių dopingo testai buvo teigiami 2005 m. varžybose. Mat jie turėjo būti už tai diskvalifikuoti. IFBB paskelbė šiuo klausimu pranešimą, kuriame teigiama jog Datuk Paul Chua atsisakė bendradarbiauti su IFBB tiriant šį klausimą.
Todėl IFBB nusprendė panaikinti ABBF pripažinimą bei pašalino Datuk Paul Chua iš IFBB prezidento vykdančiojo padėjėjo pareigų. Taip pat nutarta, kol vyks tyrimas, laikinai sustabdyti jo IFBB viceprezidento Azijai įgaliojimus.
Tikriausiai šioje vietoje nebuvo atsitiktinis sutapimas - Miloš Šarčev diskvalifikacijos nuėmimas. Belieka tik prisiminti, jog IFBB Profesionalų Lyga taip nubaudė jį už Chua pareikštą kaltinimus sukčiavus per 2006 m. Azijos žaidynes. Panašu, jog dabar prie to buvo sugrįžta įsiklausant ir į antrąją pusę – o kaip gi ten viskas buvo iš tikrųjų ?
Neliko skolingas ir Chua: jis padavė IFBB į teismą už tai, jog ši pakeitė (sušvelnino) ABBF sankcijas dviems Kataro kultūristams ir panaikino baudą (100 tūkst. USD) šios šalies federacijai.
Suinteresuotumą pakurstyti konfliktą, siekiant iš viso to išpešti naudos sau, labai intensyviai parodė ir „mistiniai šaltiniai“, kaip juos įvardijo pats Axel Bauer: jo laiško originale apie tai irgi kalbama: „a lot of e-mails from mysterious sources are going around these days; I keep getting e-mails from...“ („pastarosiomis dienomis ateina daug laiškų iš mistinių autorių; Aš gaunu laiškus iš...“).
Panašu, jog tai – iš vieno ir to paties adresato, besislapstančio už „victor“, „fair play“, „ifbbpro“, „ifbbeurope“ ir kt. slapyvardžių, darbas. Kartojasi tas pats (ir jau atpažįstamas) braižas - „šaukštelis“ tiesos, paskęstantis melo ir prasimanymų kibire, viena kita intrigėlė, su manipuliacijų ir šantažo priemaišomis. Ir dar intensyviai visa tai pamaišant, kad kiltų kuo daugiau drumzlių!
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