WADA ir Anti-dopingo kodekso pasirašymas

[Ronas]

ryt prezidente nepamirskit zurnalo is argentynos pasiimt,,,o as jum GYVENIMO buda parvesiu zurnaliuka 8)

propaguoji dopinga?

[Dita]

Vakar Kūno kultūros ir sporto departamente departamento oniciatyva įvyko visų Lietuvoje registruotų kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacijų prezidentų ir įgaliotų atstovų susirinkimas.
Departamentas aiškinosi federacijų skirtumus, jieškojo savų variantų federacijoms bendradarbiauti.
Tačiau koks gali būti bendradarbiavimas, jei po 1-2 metų niekas išvis oficialiame lygyje nebesikalbės su federacijomis, kurių tarptautinės federacijos nėra pasirašiusios anti dopingo sutarties su WADA.
Koks tikslas?

[Stepas]

Vakar Kūno kultūros ir sporto departamente departamento oniciatyva įvyko visų Lietuvoje registruotų kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacijų prezidentų ir įgaliotų atstovų susirinkimas.
Departamentas aiškinosi federacijų skirtumus, jieškojo savų variantų federacijoms bendradarbiauti.
Tačiau koks gali būti bendradarbiavimas, jei po 1-2 metų niekas išvis oficialiame lygyje nebesikalbės su federacijomis, kurių tarptautinės federacijos nėra pasirašiusios anti dopingo sutarties su WADA.
Koks tikslas?

o kas ka pasake?

[Dita]

Vakar Kūno kultūros ir sporto departamente departamento oniciatyva įvyko visų Lietuvoje registruotų kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacijų prezidentų ir įgaliotų atstovų susirinkimas.
Departamentas aiškinosi federacijų skirtumus, jieškojo savų variantų federacijoms bendradarbiauti.
Tačiau koks gali būti bendradarbiavimas, jei po 1-2 metų niekas išvis oficialiame lygyje nebesikalbės su federacijomis, kurių tarptautinės federacijos nėra pasirašiusios anti dopingo sutarties su WADA.
Koks tikslas?

o kas ka pasake?

Visi išsakė savo pozicijas.
Kai kurie nusivažiavo į ilgus "Šekspyro monologus" (gerai žinote kas mėgsta "per ausis pavažiuoti" - pats kalba, pats savęs ir kauso...).
Tačiau ne visi suprato esmę:
jau greitai sutartis su WADA lems viską, ir oficialų pripažinimą, ir finansavimą.
Visi kiti klausimai ir diskusijos yra beprasmiai, jei nėra sutarties su WADA.
Kažkas siūlo kurti BENDRĄ Lietuvos federacijų organizaciją, bet ar galima tokia sąjunga su anti-dopingo sutarties nepasirašiusiomis federacijomis?
NEGALIMA, tai aišku kiekvienam!
Tai apie ką kalbame?
Bendrai dirbti gali tik Lietuvos IFBB ir Lietuvos WFF federacijos.
Būkime realistais ir netikėkime eilinėmis pasakomis iš Kauno.
ROMO KAIRAIČIO išsakytos mintys ne gali, o yra vienintėlis REALUS pagrindas federacijų bendradarbiavimui.

[Dita]

Vakar Kūno kultūros ir sporto departamente departamento oniciatyva įvyko visų Lietuvoje registruotų kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacijų prezidentų ir įgaliotų atstovų susirinkimas.
Departamentas aiškinosi federacijų skirtumus, jieškojo savų variantų federacijoms bendradarbiauti.
Tačiau koks gali būti bendradarbiavimas, jei po 1-2 metų niekas išvis oficialiame lygyje nebesikalbės su federacijomis, kurių tarptautinės federacijos nėra pasirašiusios anti dopingo sutarties su WADA.
Koks tikslas?

o kas ka pasake?

Visi išsakė savo pozicijas.
Kai kurie nusivažiavo į ilgus "Šekspyro monologus" (gerai žinote kas mėgsta "per ausis pavažiuoti" - pats kalba, pats savęs ir kauso...).
Tačiau ne visi suprato esmę:
jau greitai sutartis su WADA lems viską, ir oficialų pripažinimą, ir finansavimą.
Visi kiti klausimai ir diskusijos yra beprasmiai, jei nėra sutarties su WADA.
Kažkas siūlo kurti BENDRĄ Lietuvos federacijų organizaciją, bet ar galima tokia sąjunga su anti-dopingo sutarties nepasirašiusiomis federacijomis?
NEGALIMA, tai aišku kiekvienam!
Tai apie ką kalbame?
Bendrai dirbti gali tik Lietuvos IFBB ir Lietuvos WFF federacijos.
Būkime realistais ir netikėkime eilinėmis pasakomis iš Kauno.
ROMO KAIRAIČIO išsakytos mintys ne gali, o yra vienintėlis REALUS pagrindas federacijų bendradarbiavimui.

Visi sutiko, kad federacijom reikalingas kažkoks pereinamasis laikotarpis pasiruošti sutarties su WADA pasirašymui, kitiems formalumams atlikti.
Jis reikalingas ir WFF, kuri pasak WADA direktoriaus RUNE ANDERSENO laiško laikoma formaliai pripažinusi pasaulinį anti-dopingo kodeksą, bet kaip sako Šiaulių propagandos atstovas, WFF dar turi atlikti kai kuriuos formalius veiksmus, t.y. sumokėti WADAi 7000 USD mokestį..
Mes jau sakėme šiauliečiui, kad kai ateis laikas, sumokėsime (pinigai giliai užkasti, taip lengvai ne iškasi...).
Tai štai tas laikas jau artėja...

[mindaugas]

Vakar Kūno kultūros ir sporto departamente departamento oniciatyva įvyko visų Lietuvoje registruotų kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacijų prezidentų ir įgaliotų atstovų susirinkimas.
Departamentas aiškinosi federacijų skirtumus, jieškojo savų variantų federacijoms bendradarbiauti.
Tačiau koks gali būti bendradarbiavimas, jei po 1-2 metų niekas išvis oficialiame lygyje nebesikalbės su federacijomis, kurių tarptautinės federacijos nėra pasirašiusios anti dopingo sutarties su WADA.
Koks tikslas?

o kas ka pasake?

Visi išsakė savo pozicijas.
Kai kurie nusivažiavo į ilgus "Šekspyro monologus" (gerai žinote kas mėgsta "per ausis pavažiuoti" - pats kalba, pats savęs ir kauso...).
Tačiau ne visi suprato esmę:
jau greitai sutartis su WADA lems viską, ir oficialų pripažinimą, ir finansavimą.
Visi kiti klausimai ir diskusijos yra beprasmiai, jei nėra sutarties su WADA.
Kažkas siūlo kurti BENDRĄ Lietuvos federacijų organizaciją, bet ar galima tokia sąjunga su anti-dopingo sutarties nepasirašiusiomis federacijomis?
NEGALIMA, tai aišku kiekvienam!
Tai apie ką kalbame?
Bendrai dirbti gali tik Lietuvos IFBB ir Lietuvos WFF federacijos.
Būkime realistais ir netikėkime eilinėmis pasakomis iš Kauno.
ROMO KAIRAIČIO išsakytos mintys ne gali, o yra vienintėlis REALUS pagrindas federacijų bendradarbiavimui.

Visi sutiko, kad federacijom reikalingas kažkoks pereinamasis laikotarpis pasiruošti sutarties su WADA pasirašymui, kitiems formalumams atlikti.
Jis reikalingas ir WFF, kuri pasak WADA direktoriaus RUNE ANDERSENO laiško laikoma formaliai pripažinusi pasaulinį anti-dopingo kodeksą, bet kaip sako Šiaulių propagandos atstovas, WFF dar turi atlikti kai kuriuos formalius veiksmus, t.y. sumokėti WADAi 7000 USD mokestį..
Mes jau sakėme šiauliečiui, kad kai ateis laikas, sumokėsime (pinigai giliai užkasti, taip lengvai ne iškasi...).
Tai štai tas laikas jau artėja...

problemeliu nemazai?

[Dita]

Vakar Kūno kultūros ir sporto departamente departamento oniciatyva įvyko visų Lietuvoje registruotų kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacijų prezidentų ir įgaliotų atstovų susirinkimas.
Departamentas aiškinosi federacijų skirtumus, jieškojo savų variantų federacijoms bendradarbiauti.
Tačiau koks gali būti bendradarbiavimas, jei po 1-2 metų niekas išvis oficialiame lygyje nebesikalbės su federacijomis, kurių tarptautinės federacijos nėra pasirašiusios anti dopingo sutarties su WADA.
Koks tikslas?

o kas ka pasake?

Visi išsakė savo pozicijas.
Kai kurie nusivažiavo į ilgus "Šekspyro monologus" (gerai žinote kas mėgsta "per ausis pavažiuoti" - pats kalba, pats savęs ir kauso...).
Tačiau ne visi suprato esmę:
jau greitai sutartis su WADA lems viską, ir oficialų pripažinimą, ir finansavimą.
Visi kiti klausimai ir diskusijos yra beprasmiai, jei nėra sutarties su WADA.
Kažkas siūlo kurti BENDRĄ Lietuvos federacijų organizaciją, bet ar galima tokia sąjunga su anti-dopingo sutarties nepasirašiusiomis federacijomis?
NEGALIMA, tai aišku kiekvienam!
Tai apie ką kalbame?
Bendrai dirbti gali tik Lietuvos IFBB ir Lietuvos WFF federacijos.
Būkime realistais ir netikėkime eilinėmis pasakomis iš Kauno.
ROMO KAIRAIČIO išsakytos mintys ne gali, o yra vienintėlis REALUS pagrindas federacijų bendradarbiavimui.

Visi sutiko, kad federacijom reikalingas kažkoks pereinamasis laikotarpis pasiruošti sutarties su WADA pasirašymui, kitiems formalumams atlikti.
Jis reikalingas ir WFF, kuri pasak WADA direktoriaus RUNE ANDERSENO laiško laikoma formaliai pripažinusi pasaulinį anti-dopingo kodeksą, bet kaip sako Šiaulių propagandos atstovas, WFF dar turi atlikti kai kuriuos formalius veiksmus, t.y. sumokėti WADAi 7000 USD mokestį..
Mes jau sakėme šiauliečiui, kad kai ateis laikas, sumokėsime (pinigai giliai užkasti, taip lengvai ne iškasi...).
Tai štai tas laikas jau artėja...

problemeliu nemazai?

Visos preblemos yra išsprendžiamos, kai yra pakankamai noro ir proto...

[Arunas Petraitis]

Aiškumo dėlei - du momentai (2007 ir 2009 m. WADA laiškai), paaiškinantys situaciją dėl 5000 USD ir pačių taisyklių.
WFF teigia, jog Kodą pasirašė, WADA sako, kad ne :

Montreal, 7 August 2007

Re: Acceptance and Compliance with the World Anti-Doping Code

Dear Mr. Daubaras:
We acknowledge receipt of the World Fitness Federation’s formal acceptance of the World Anti-Doping Code.

Please accept the congratulations of all the stakeholders in WADA on this important step in the fight against doping in sport. Your determination to eradicate such unhealthy and unethical practices is part of a worldwide effort to protect the integrity of sport and to permit athletes to compete fairly in an atmosphere that will be free of cheaters.
After this initial step, it is then determined how the Code is to be best implemented by you into your rules, regulations and / or policies in order e sure compliance. We kindly ask that you forward these rules to us, in English or in French, so that we may review and monitor them for Code compliance. You will find enclosed an invoice in the amount of USD 5000 for the legal review of your anti-doping regulations.

Sincerely,
Rune Andersen
Director, Standards and Harmonization


Monrealis, 2007 m. rugpjūčio 7
Re: Pritarimas ir atitikimas Pasaulio Antidopingo Kodui
Brangus pone Daubarai:

Mes patvirtiname gavę Pasaulio Fitneso Federacijos oficialų pritarimą Pasaulio Antidopingo Kodui.
Prašome priimti sveikinimus nuo visų WADA tarpininkų šioje svarbioje kovoje prieš dopingą sporte. Jūsų nusistatymas išnaikinti tokias nesveikas ir neetiškas praktikas yra dalis pastangų pasaulio mąstu išsaugant sporto vientisumą, įgalinant sportininkus konkuruoti sąžiningoje ir be apgaulės atmosferoje. .
Po šio pradinio žingsnio, turi būti nustatoma, kaip Kodas būtų tinkamiausiai įdiegtas jūsų taisyklėse ir kaip jos atitinka reikalvimus. Mes maloniai prašome, kad jūs persiųstumėte šitas taisykles mums, anglų arba prancūzų kalba, kad mes galėtume apžvelgti ir patikrinti jų atitikimą Kodui. Jūs rasite išrašytą sąskaitą 5000 JAV dolerių sumai jūsų antidopingo taisyklių apžvalgai.

Nuoširdžiai,
Rune Andersen,
Direktorius, Standartai ir Harmonizavimas

2009 01 19
Please accept my apologies for the tardy response. The WFF signed Code acceptance but did not follow through with the requirements for an international federation that is outside the Olympic Movement to be accepted by WADA as an official Code signatory. We, therefore, do not acknowledge them as an official Code signatory and, consequently, they are not listed on our website as such.

Regards,

Marilyn MALENFANT
Executive Assistant to
Rune Andersen, Director
Standards and Harmonization
World Anti-Doping Agency
Agence Mondiale Antidopage
Tel: +1 514 904 8848
Fax: +1 514 904 8761
Email: marilyn.malenfant@wada-ama.org
Web: www.wada-ama.org

[Dita]

Aiškumo dėlei - du momentai (2007 ir 2009 m. WADA laiškai), paaiškinantys situaciją dėl 5000 USD ir pačių taisyklių.
WFF teigia, jog Kodą pasirašė, WADA sako, kad ne :

Montreal, 7 August 2007

Re: Acceptance and Compliance with the World Anti-Doping Code

Dear Mr. Daubaras:
We acknowledge receipt of the World Fitness Federation’s formal acceptance of the World Anti-Doping Code.

Please accept the congratulations of all the stakeholders in WADA on this important step in the fight against doping in sport. Your determination to eradicate such unhealthy and unethical practices is part of a worldwide effort to protect the integrity of sport and to permit athletes to compete fairly in an atmosphere that will be free of cheaters.
After this initial step, it is then determined how the Code is to be best implemented by you into your rules, regulations and / or policies in order e sure compliance. We kindly ask that you forward these rules to us, in English or in French, so that we may review and monitor them for Code compliance. You will find enclosed an invoice in the amount of USD 5000 for the legal review of your anti-doping regulations.

Sincerely,
Rune Andersen
Director, Standards and Harmonization


Monrealis, 2007 m. rugpjūčio 7
Re: Pritarimas ir atitikimas Pasaulio Antidopingo Kodui
Brangus pone Daubarai:

Mes patvirtiname gavę Pasaulio Fitneso Federacijos oficialų pritarimą Pasaulio Antidopingo Kodui.
Prašome priimti sveikinimus nuo visų WADA tarpininkų šioje svarbioje kovoje prieš dopingą sporte. Jūsų nusistatymas išnaikinti tokias nesveikas ir neetiškas praktikas yra dalis pastangų pasaulio mąstu išsaugant sporto vientisumą, įgalinant sportininkus konkuruoti sąžiningoje ir be apgaulės atmosferoje. .
Po šio pradinio žingsnio, turi būti nustatoma, kaip Kodas būtų tinkamiausiai įdiegtas jūsų taisyklėse ir kaip jos atitinka reikalvimus. Mes maloniai prašome, kad jūs persiųstumėte šitas taisykles mums, anglų arba prancūzų kalba, kad mes galėtume apžvelgti ir patikrinti jų atitikimą Kodui. Jūs rasite išrašytą sąskaitą 5000 JAV dolerių sumai jūsų antidopingo taisyklių apžvalgai.

Nuoširdžiai,
Rune Andersen,
Direktorius, Standartai ir Harmonizavimas

2009 01 19
Please accept my apologies for the tardy response. The WFF signed Code acceptance but did not follow through with the requirements for an international federation that is outside the Olympic Movement to be accepted by WADA as an official Code signatory. We, therefore, do not acknowledge them as an official Code signatory and, consequently, they are not listed on our website as such.

Regards,

Marilyn MALENFANT
Executive Assistant to
Rune Andersen, Director
Standards and Harmonization
World Anti-Doping Agency
Agence Mondiale Antidopage
Tel: +1 514 904 8848
Fax: +1 514 904 8761
Email: marilyn.malenfant@wada-ama.org
Web: www.wada-ama.org

Niekas neabejoja, Arūnai, kad esi "knysla", todėl neverta su tamsta ginčytis - tuščia kalba ir laiko gaila tučioms diskusijoms.
Siūlau tamstai kiek rimčiau pastudijuoti anglų kalbą ir mažiau "improvizuoti" savo asmeninėse interpretacijose...
Mes be tamstos tarpininkavimo puikiai deriname savo klausimus su WADA tiesiogiai, todėl, gal pasijieškokit sau tuščioms diskusijoms partnerių pas savo kolegas "jaučius" iš Kaliningrado nes, matyt, tiek tik ir tesugebate...

[Dita]

Aiškumo dėlei - du momentai (2007 ir 2009 m. WADA laiškai), paaiškinantys situaciją dėl 5000 USD ir pačių taisyklių.
WFF teigia, jog Kodą pasirašė, WADA sako, kad ne :

Montreal, 7 August 2007

Re: Acceptance and Compliance with the World Anti-Doping Code

Dear Mr. Daubaras:
We acknowledge receipt of the World Fitness Federation’s formal acceptance of the World Anti-Doping Code.

Please accept the congratulations of all the stakeholders in WADA on this important step in the fight against doping in sport. Your determination to eradicate such unhealthy and unethical practices is part of a worldwide effort to protect the integrity of sport and to permit athletes to compete fairly in an atmosphere that will be free of cheaters.
After this initial step, it is then determined how the Code is to be best implemented by you into your rules, regulations and / or policies in order e sure compliance. We kindly ask that you forward these rules to us, in English or in French, so that we may review and monitor them for Code compliance. You will find enclosed an invoice in the amount of USD 5000 for the legal review of your anti-doping regulations.

Sincerely,
Rune Andersen
Director, Standards and Harmonization


Monrealis, 2007 m. rugpjūčio 7
Re: Pritarimas ir atitikimas Pasaulio Antidopingo Kodui
Brangus pone Daubarai:

Mes patvirtiname gavę Pasaulio Fitneso Federacijos oficialų pritarimą Pasaulio Antidopingo Kodui.
Prašome priimti sveikinimus nuo visų WADA tarpininkų šioje svarbioje kovoje prieš dopingą sporte. Jūsų nusistatymas išnaikinti tokias nesveikas ir neetiškas praktikas yra dalis pastangų pasaulio mąstu išsaugant sporto vientisumą, įgalinant sportininkus konkuruoti sąžiningoje ir be apgaulės atmosferoje. .
Po šio pradinio žingsnio, turi būti nustatoma, kaip Kodas būtų tinkamiausiai įdiegtas jūsų taisyklėse ir kaip jos atitinka reikalvimus. Mes maloniai prašome, kad jūs persiųstumėte šitas taisykles mums, anglų arba prancūzų kalba, kad mes galėtume apžvelgti ir patikrinti jų atitikimą Kodui. Jūs rasite išrašytą sąskaitą 5000 JAV dolerių sumai jūsų antidopingo taisyklių apžvalgai.

Nuoširdžiai,
Rune Andersen,
Direktorius, Standartai ir Harmonizavimas

2009 01 19
Please accept my apologies for the tardy response. The WFF signed Code acceptance but did not follow through with the requirements for an international federation that is outside the Olympic Movement to be accepted by WADA as an official Code signatory. We, therefore, do not acknowledge them as an official Code signatory and, consequently, they are not listed on our website as such.

Regards,

Marilyn MALENFANT
Executive Assistant to
Rune Andersen, Director
Standards and Harmonization
World Anti-Doping Agency
Agence Mondiale Antidopage
Tel: +1 514 904 8848
Fax: +1 514 904 8761
Email: marilyn.malenfant@wada-ama.org
Web: www.wada-ama.org

Niekas neabejoja, Arūnai, kad esi "knysla", todėl neverta su tamsta ginčytis - tuščia kalba ir laiko gaila tučioms diskusijoms.
Siūlau tamstai kiek rimčiau pastudijuoti anglų kalbą ir mažiau "improvizuoti" savo asmeninėse interpretacijose...
Mes be tamstos tarpininkavimo puikiai deriname savo klausimus su WADA tiesiogiai, todėl, gal pasijieškokit sau tuščioms diskusijoms partnerių pas savo kolegas "jaučius" iš Kaliningrado nes, matyt, tiek tik ir tesugebate...

Norėčiau pasakyti, kad tamstos pedantiškumas jau seniai peržengė normos ribas ir pasidarė liguistas…
PVZ.
Neperseniausiai šiuo klausimu E.Daubarui iš Peterburgo skambino Vladimiras Dubininas.
V.Dubininas sako “...kas tam Petraičiui pasidarė? Klaipėdoje per varžybas jis įkyriai pristojo dėl mano dalyvavimo „Gintarinio prizo“ turnyre.
Nesuprantu, ko jis iš manęs laukia? Negi aš nedalyvavau? Negi nebuvau „Gintarinio“čempionu?..."
Todėl jau 30-tame tarptautinės WFF-WBBF federacijos žurnale teks atstatyti ankstenį istorinį čempionų sąrašo variantą ir tamstos „įkyriai peršamą“ Antano Mineikio pergalę panaikinti, juolab, kad pats Antanas Mineikis asmeniškai teigė, kad tuomet „Gintarinio prizo“ turnyre čempionu buvo V.Dubininas.

[Dita]

Čia Arūnui pavyzdėlis, ką daro jo "idejiniai vadai" užjūrio kraštuose, kad apgauti WADA:

CHEATING DOPING GAME BY THE IFBB CORPORATION

TONY BLINN:
“Dear Rafael,
Further to my e-mail below, I should have mentioned that, at first glance, I'd pick option #1. I believe the IFBB Anti-Doping Committee is not empowered or authorized to make decisions that are outside the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules and WADA Code. This committee, in my opinion, must only operate within the narrow confines of the aforementioned Rules and WADC. To me, this is the proper and right thing to do.
The right to a constitutional appeal directly to the IFBB President is every member's right and, to allow this to go forward is to show how well our democracy works. Only the President should have the right to reduce Santos' suspension to a period other than what's called for in the Rules.
Therefore, I would suggest the following course of action:
1. Allow the hearing decision and two-year suspension from the ADC to stand as is.
2. Send this decision to Santos via Pagnani and advise 1) that Santos should immediately appeal to the President under article 20.1 of the IFBB Constitution, and 2) that Santos should ask for leniency and a reduction to one-year as fair and just compensation for the wrongful disqualification from the finals of the World Championships.
3. Advise Pagnani and Santos that the hearing decision is to remain confidential [will not be publicly released] pending his appeal decision.
4. This will give you some time to craft a written appeal decision.
Keep in mind that a one-year suspension would run from November 6, 2008 to November 5, 2009 inclusive. In Dubai, November 4 is the Weigh-in; November 5 is the Prejudging; November 6 is the Finals. Because his suspension must end in time for the Weigh-in, you could suspend him for "one year less a day".
I really believe that the appeal process is the best way to go”.

TONY BLINN:
“Dear Rafael,
Given the unique circumstances, your "exception" is most welcome.
In my opinion, may I suggest we act as follows:
OPTION #1:
Apply the WADA Code and IFBB Anti-Doping Rules, suspend Santos for two years, advise him to appeal to the IFBB President (as is his constitutional right), strike an ad hoc appeal committee, which would overturn the hearing decision and render an appeal decision to reduce the suspension to one year.
OPTION #2:
Apply the WADA Code and IFBB Anti-Doping Rules in the hearing decision, state why he cannot succeed in his petition for relief under Articles 10.5.1 and 10.5.2 (the reason why should be obvious to all and I strongly believe we shouldn't play with this), but, when it comes to the suspension part of the decision, reduce the suspension to one year based on "exceptional circumstances". Of course, we will have to state what these circumstances are in a way that is acceptable from a "justice has been done" point of view.
I don't believe WADA would agree with such a decision; however, even more important than WADA, we have to do what's in the best interests of the IFBB first and foremost. And we all seem to agree that it's not in our best interests to suspend Mr. Santos for two years”.

RAFAEL SANTOCHA:
“Dear Members of the Anti Doping Commission:
You know that you have my full respect and trust regarding your decisions, and that I never interfere on your efficient work.
Let me make an exception in the case of Jose Carlos Santos.
I think that everybody is sharing the same feelings.
I was specially moved reminding the previous misunderstanding in the Malaysia World Championships.
I believe it would be advisable to have a shorter period of suspension with a reinstatement test, or something similar.
I leave this in your capable hands, but I wished to share with you these feelings.
Best regards,
Rafael”

EDUARDO HENRIQUE DE ROSE ESCRIBIÓ:
“You open the door for personal comments and I was considering to do one but, because it was a case of a Brazilian athlete, I was restraining myself to do it.
We have here an athlete that was many time World Champion, was also tested many times without any problem, and we never had a problem with him before. As a matter of fact, he had a problem with as, because the only time that we try to eliminate the athletes with adverse analytical results from Friday to Sunday, we disqualified him improperly, based in a preliminary report of the lab, that confess later on that a mistake was made.By this mysterious thing of the life, the lab was in Thailand, and with the disqualification of José Carlos, the Thai athlete won the Gold Medal in the category.
In my opinion, it is time to pay him back the mistake that was made, and to deduct some time of his sanction, enough to permit him to compete in Dubai, and to avoid a sad ending of a great athlete. My recommendations would be, for this reasons, to give him a sanction of one 18 months what would permit him to compete in the next World Championship”.

TONY BLYNN:
“I realize that personal feelings cannot enter into our hearing decision in the case of Jose Carlos Santos. Having said this, I must express my disappointment at hearing the news that Santos was positive. Such a great history of accomplishments -- a 6-time IFBB World Champion and Gold Medalist at the World Games. Tested negative more than 25 times.
I am remembering how we failed him at the World Championships at which he was mistakenly disqualified before the finals. I witnessed first-hand how deeply this affected him at the airport the next day. He was still in tears and appeared stunned and lost at how this could have happened. I recall feeling sad for him and ashamed at the same time because I was part of the IFBB officialdom that should have prevented it”.

[Tomas]

Čia Arūnui pavyzdėlis, ką daro jo "idejiniai vadai" užjūrio kraštuose, kad apgauti WADA:

CHEATING DOPING GAME BY THE IFBB CORPORATION

TONY BLINN:
“Dear Rafael,
Further to my e-mail below, I should have mentioned that, at first glance, I'd pick option #1. I believe the IFBB Anti-Doping Committee is not empowered or authorized to make decisions that are outside the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules and WADA Code. This committee, in my opinion, must only operate within the narrow confines of the aforementioned Rules and WADC. To me, this is the proper and right thing to do.
The right to a constitutional appeal directly to the IFBB President is every member's right and, to allow this to go forward is to show how well our democracy works. Only the President should have the right to reduce Santos' suspension to a period other than what's called for in the Rules.
Therefore, I would suggest the following course of action:
1. Allow the hearing decision and two-year suspension from the ADC to stand as is.
2. Send this decision to Santos via Pagnani and advise 1) that Santos should immediately appeal to the President under article 20.1 of the IFBB Constitution, and 2) that Santos should ask for leniency and a reduction to one-year as fair and just compensation for the wrongful disqualification from the finals of the World Championships.
3. Advise Pagnani and Santos that the hearing decision is to remain confidential [will not be publicly released] pending his appeal decision.
4. This will give you some time to craft a written appeal decision.
Keep in mind that a one-year suspension would run from November 6, 2008 to November 5, 2009 inclusive. In Dubai, November 4 is the Weigh-in; November 5 is the Prejudging; November 6 is the Finals. Because his suspension must end in time for the Weigh-in, you could suspend him for "one year less a day".
I really believe that the appeal process is the best way to go”.

TONY BLINN:
“Dear Rafael,
Given the unique circumstances, your "exception" is most welcome.
In my opinion, may I suggest we act as follows:
OPTION #1:
Apply the WADA Code and IFBB Anti-Doping Rules, suspend Santos for two years, advise him to appeal to the IFBB President (as is his constitutional right), strike an ad hoc appeal committee, which would overturn the hearing decision and render an appeal decision to reduce the suspension to one year.
OPTION #2:
Apply the WADA Code and IFBB Anti-Doping Rules in the hearing decision, state why he cannot succeed in his petition for relief under Articles 10.5.1 and 10.5.2 (the reason why should be obvious to all and I strongly believe we shouldn't play with this), but, when it comes to the suspension part of the decision, reduce the suspension to one year based on "exceptional circumstances". Of course, we will have to state what these circumstances are in a way that is acceptable from a "justice has been done" point of view.
I don't believe WADA would agree with such a decision; however, even more important than WADA, we have to do what's in the best interests of the IFBB first and foremost. And we all seem to agree that it's not in our best interests to suspend Mr. Santos for two years”.

RAFAEL SANTOCHA:
“Dear Members of the Anti Doping Commission:
You know that you have my full respect and trust regarding your decisions, and that I never interfere on your efficient work.
Let me make an exception in the case of Jose Carlos Santos.
I think that everybody is sharing the same feelings.
I was specially moved reminding the previous misunderstanding in the Malaysia World Championships.
I believe it would be advisable to have a shorter period of suspension with a reinstatement test, or something similar.
I leave this in your capable hands, but I wished to share with you these feelings.
Best regards,
Rafael”

EDUARDO HENRIQUE DE ROSE ESCRIBIÓ:
“You open the door for personal comments and I was considering to do one but, because it was a case of a Brazilian athlete, I was restraining myself to do it.
We have here an athlete that was many time World Champion, was also tested many times without any problem, and we never had a problem with him before. As a matter of fact, he had a problem with as, because the only time that we try to eliminate the athletes with adverse analytical results from Friday to Sunday, we disqualified him improperly, based in a preliminary report of the lab, that confess later on that a mistake was made.By this mysterious thing of the life, the lab was in Thailand, and with the disqualification of José Carlos, the Thai athlete won the Gold Medal in the category.
In my opinion, it is time to pay him back the mistake that was made, and to deduct some time of his sanction, enough to permit him to compete in Dubai, and to avoid a sad ending of a great athlete. My recommendations would be, for this reasons, to give him a sanction of one 18 months what would permit him to compete in the next World Championship”.

TONY BLYNN:
“I realize that personal feelings cannot enter into our hearing decision in the case of Jose Carlos Santos. Having said this, I must express my disappointment at hearing the news that Santos was positive. Such a great history of accomplishments -- a 6-time IFBB World Champion and Gold Medalist at the World Games. Tested negative more than 25 times.
I am remembering how we failed him at the World Championships at which he was mistakenly disqualified before the finals. I witnessed first-hand how deeply this affected him at the airport the next day. He was still in tears and appeared stunned and lost at how this could have happened. I recall feeling sad for him and ashamed at the same time because I was part of the IFBB officialdom that should have prevented it”.

wada atstovams butu idomu susipazinti su sita korespondencija :?:

[Dita]

Čia Arūnui pavyzdėlis, ką daro jo "idejiniai vadai" užjūrio kraštuose, kad apgauti WADA:

CHEATING DOPING GAME BY THE IFBB CORPORATION

TONY BLINN:
“Dear Rafael,
Further to my e-mail below, I should have mentioned that, at first glance, I'd pick option #1. I believe the IFBB Anti-Doping Committee is not empowered or authorized to make decisions that are outside the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules and WADA Code. This committee, in my opinion, must only operate within the narrow confines of the aforementioned Rules and WADC. To me, this is the proper and right thing to do.
The right to a constitutional appeal directly to the IFBB President is every member's right and, to allow this to go forward is to show how well our democracy works. Only the President should have the right to reduce Santos' suspension to a period other than what's called for in the Rules.
Therefore, I would suggest the following course of action:
1. Allow the hearing decision and two-year suspension from the ADC to stand as is.
2. Send this decision to Santos via Pagnani and advise 1) that Santos should immediately appeal to the President under article 20.1 of the IFBB Constitution, and 2) that Santos should ask for leniency and a reduction to one-year as fair and just compensation for the wrongful disqualification from the finals of the World Championships.
3. Advise Pagnani and Santos that the hearing decision is to remain confidential [will not be publicly released] pending his appeal decision.
4. This will give you some time to craft a written appeal decision.
Keep in mind that a one-year suspension would run from November 6, 2008 to November 5, 2009 inclusive. In Dubai, November 4 is the Weigh-in; November 5 is the Prejudging; November 6 is the Finals. Because his suspension must end in time for the Weigh-in, you could suspend him for "one year less a day".
I really believe that the appeal process is the best way to go”.

TONY BLINN:
“Dear Rafael,
Given the unique circumstances, your "exception" is most welcome.
In my opinion, may I suggest we act as follows:
OPTION #1:
Apply the WADA Code and IFBB Anti-Doping Rules, suspend Santos for two years, advise him to appeal to the IFBB President (as is his constitutional right), strike an ad hoc appeal committee, which would overturn the hearing decision and render an appeal decision to reduce the suspension to one year.
OPTION #2:
Apply the WADA Code and IFBB Anti-Doping Rules in the hearing decision, state why he cannot succeed in his petition for relief under Articles 10.5.1 and 10.5.2 (the reason why should be obvious to all and I strongly believe we shouldn't play with this), but, when it comes to the suspension part of the decision, reduce the suspension to one year based on "exceptional circumstances". Of course, we will have to state what these circumstances are in a way that is acceptable from a "justice has been done" point of view.
I don't believe WADA would agree with such a decision; however, even more important than WADA, we have to do what's in the best interests of the IFBB first and foremost. And we all seem to agree that it's not in our best interests to suspend Mr. Santos for two years”.

RAFAEL SANTOCHA:
“Dear Members of the Anti Doping Commission:
You know that you have my full respect and trust regarding your decisions, and that I never interfere on your efficient work.
Let me make an exception in the case of Jose Carlos Santos.
I think that everybody is sharing the same feelings.
I was specially moved reminding the previous misunderstanding in the Malaysia World Championships.
I believe it would be advisable to have a shorter period of suspension with a reinstatement test, or something similar.
I leave this in your capable hands, but I wished to share with you these feelings.
Best regards,
Rafael”

EDUARDO HENRIQUE DE ROSE ESCRIBIÓ:
“You open the door for personal comments and I was considering to do one but, because it was a case of a Brazilian athlete, I was restraining myself to do it.
We have here an athlete that was many time World Champion, was also tested many times without any problem, and we never had a problem with him before. As a matter of fact, he had a problem with as, because the only time that we try to eliminate the athletes with adverse analytical results from Friday to Sunday, we disqualified him improperly, based in a preliminary report of the lab, that confess later on that a mistake was made.By this mysterious thing of the life, the lab was in Thailand, and with the disqualification of José Carlos, the Thai athlete won the Gold Medal in the category.
In my opinion, it is time to pay him back the mistake that was made, and to deduct some time of his sanction, enough to permit him to compete in Dubai, and to avoid a sad ending of a great athlete. My recommendations would be, for this reasons, to give him a sanction of one 18 months what would permit him to compete in the next World Championship”.

TONY BLYNN:
“I realize that personal feelings cannot enter into our hearing decision in the case of Jose Carlos Santos. Having said this, I must express my disappointment at hearing the news that Santos was positive. Such a great history of accomplishments -- a 6-time IFBB World Champion and Gold Medalist at the World Games. Tested negative more than 25 times.
I am remembering how we failed him at the World Championships at which he was mistakenly disqualified before the finals. I witnessed first-hand how deeply this affected him at the airport the next day. He was still in tears and appeared stunned and lost at how this could have happened. I recall feeling sad for him and ashamed at the same time because I was part of the IFBB officialdom that should have prevented it”.

wada atstovams butu idomu susipazinti su sita korespondencija :?:

Norėčiau pažymėti šią lakią frazę iš IFBB vadovo lūpų:

I don't believe WADA would agree with such a decision; however, even more important than WADA, we have to do what's in the best interests of the IFBB first and foremost.

[Arunas Petraitis]

Aiškumo dėlei - du momentai (2007 ir 2009 m. WADA laiškai), paaiškinantys situaciją dėl 5000 USD ir pačių taisyklių.
WFF teigia, jog Kodą pasirašė, WADA sako, kad ne :

Montreal, 7 August 2007

Re: Acceptance and Compliance with the World Anti-Doping Code

Dear Mr. Daubaras:
We acknowledge receipt of the World Fitness Federation’s formal acceptance of the World Anti-Doping Code.

Please accept the congratulations of all the stakeholders in WADA on this important step in the fight against doping in sport. Your determination to eradicate such unhealthy and unethical practices is part of a worldwide effort to protect the integrity of sport and to permit athletes to compete fairly in an atmosphere that will be free of cheaters.
After this initial step, it is then determined how the Code is to be best implemented by you into your rules, regulations and / or policies in order e sure compliance. We kindly ask that you forward these rules to us, in English or in French, so that we may review and monitor them for Code compliance. You will find enclosed an invoice in the amount of USD 5000 for the legal review of your anti-doping regulations.

Sincerely,
Rune Andersen
Director, Standards and Harmonization


Monrealis, 2007 m. rugpjūčio 7
Re: Pritarimas ir atitikimas Pasaulio Antidopingo Kodui
Brangus pone Daubarai:

Mes patvirtiname gavę Pasaulio Fitneso Federacijos oficialų pritarimą Pasaulio Antidopingo Kodui.
Prašome priimti sveikinimus nuo visų WADA tarpininkų šioje svarbioje kovoje prieš dopingą sporte. Jūsų nusistatymas išnaikinti tokias nesveikas ir neetiškas praktikas yra dalis pastangų pasaulio mąstu išsaugant sporto vientisumą, įgalinant sportininkus konkuruoti sąžiningoje ir be apgaulės atmosferoje. .
Po šio pradinio žingsnio, turi būti nustatoma, kaip Kodas būtų tinkamiausiai įdiegtas jūsų taisyklėse ir kaip jos atitinka reikalvimus. Mes maloniai prašome, kad jūs persiųstumėte šitas taisykles mums, anglų arba prancūzų kalba, kad mes galėtume apžvelgti ir patikrinti jų atitikimą Kodui. Jūs rasite išrašytą sąskaitą 5000 JAV dolerių sumai jūsų antidopingo taisyklių apžvalgai.

Nuoširdžiai,
Rune Andersen,
Direktorius, Standartai ir Harmonizavimas

2009 01 19
Please accept my apologies for the tardy response. The WFF signed Code acceptance but did not follow through with the requirements for an international federation that is outside the Olympic Movement to be accepted by WADA as an official Code signatory. We, therefore, do not acknowledge them as an official Code signatory and, consequently, they are not listed on our website as such.

Regards,

Marilyn MALENFANT
Executive Assistant to
Rune Andersen, Director
Standards and Harmonization
World Anti-Doping Agency
Agence Mondiale Antidopage
Tel: +1 514 904 8848
Fax: +1 514 904 8761
Email: marilyn.malenfant@wada-ama.org
Web: www.wada-ama.org

Niekas neabejoja, Arūnai, kad esi "knysla", todėl neverta su tamsta ginčytis - tuščia kalba ir laiko gaila tučioms diskusijoms.
Siūlau tamstai kiek rimčiau pastudijuoti anglų kalbą ir mažiau "improvizuoti" savo asmeninėse interpretacijose...
Mes be tamstos tarpininkavimo puikiai deriname savo klausimus su WADA tiesiogiai, todėl, gal pasijieškokit sau tuščioms diskusijoms partnerių pas savo kolegas "jaučius" iš Kaliningrado nes, matyt, tiek tik ir tesugebate...

Neverta ginčytis, ypač kai aišku, kas yra teisus. Kad būtų mažiau "improvizacijų", galima šių laiškų vertimus padaryti ir vertimų biure, patvirtinti notariškai, bet...tai nieko iš esmės nekeičia. Yra taip, kaip yra...Anglų kalba čia niekuo dėta - vertimas padarytas pakankamai profesionaliai ir be klaidų.

[Dita]

Aiškumo dėlei - du momentai (2007 ir 2009 m. WADA laiškai), paaiškinantys situaciją dėl 5000 USD ir pačių taisyklių.
WFF teigia, jog Kodą pasirašė, WADA sako, kad ne :

Montreal, 7 August 2007

Re: Acceptance and Compliance with the World Anti-Doping Code

Dear Mr. Daubaras:
We acknowledge receipt of the World Fitness Federation’s formal acceptance of the World Anti-Doping Code.

Please accept the congratulations of all the stakeholders in WADA on this important step in the fight against doping in sport. Your determination to eradicate such unhealthy and unethical practices is part of a worldwide effort to protect the integrity of sport and to permit athletes to compete fairly in an atmosphere that will be free of cheaters.
After this initial step, it is then determined how the Code is to be best implemented by you into your rules, regulations and / or policies in order e sure compliance. We kindly ask that you forward these rules to us, in English or in French, so that we may review and monitor them for Code compliance. You will find enclosed an invoice in the amount of USD 5000 for the legal review of your anti-doping regulations.

Sincerely,
Rune Andersen
Director, Standards and Harmonization


Monrealis, 2007 m. rugpjūčio 7
Re: Pritarimas ir atitikimas Pasaulio Antidopingo Kodui
Brangus pone Daubarai:

Mes patvirtiname gavę Pasaulio Fitneso Federacijos oficialų pritarimą Pasaulio Antidopingo Kodui.
Prašome priimti sveikinimus nuo visų WADA tarpininkų šioje svarbioje kovoje prieš dopingą sporte. Jūsų nusistatymas išnaikinti tokias nesveikas ir neetiškas praktikas yra dalis pastangų pasaulio mąstu išsaugant sporto vientisumą, įgalinant sportininkus konkuruoti sąžiningoje ir be apgaulės atmosferoje. .
Po šio pradinio žingsnio, turi būti nustatoma, kaip Kodas būtų tinkamiausiai įdiegtas jūsų taisyklėse ir kaip jos atitinka reikalvimus. Mes maloniai prašome, kad jūs persiųstumėte šitas taisykles mums, anglų arba prancūzų kalba, kad mes galėtume apžvelgti ir patikrinti jų atitikimą Kodui. Jūs rasite išrašytą sąskaitą 5000 JAV dolerių sumai jūsų antidopingo taisyklių apžvalgai.

Nuoširdžiai,
Rune Andersen,
Direktorius, Standartai ir Harmonizavimas

2009 01 19
Please accept my apologies for the tardy response. The WFF signed Code acceptance but did not follow through with the requirements for an international federation that is outside the Olympic Movement to be accepted by WADA as an official Code signatory. We, therefore, do not acknowledge them as an official Code signatory and, consequently, they are not listed on our website as such.

Regards,

Marilyn MALENFANT
Executive Assistant to
Rune Andersen, Director
Standards and Harmonization
World Anti-Doping Agency
Agence Mondiale Antidopage
Tel: +1 514 904 8848
Fax: +1 514 904 8761
Email: marilyn.malenfant@wada-ama.org
Web: www.wada-ama.org

Niekas neabejoja, Arūnai, kad esi "knysla", todėl neverta su tamsta ginčytis - tuščia kalba ir laiko gaila tučioms diskusijoms.
Siūlau tamstai kiek rimčiau pastudijuoti anglų kalbą ir mažiau "improvizuoti" savo asmeninėse interpretacijose...
Mes be tamstos tarpininkavimo puikiai deriname savo klausimus su WADA tiesiogiai, todėl, gal pasijieškokit sau tuščioms diskusijoms partnerių pas savo kolegas "jaučius" iš Kaliningrado nes, matyt, tiek tik ir tesugebate...

Neverta ginčytis, ypač kai aišku, kas yra teisus. Kad būtų mažiau "improvizacijų", galima šių laiškų vertimus padaryti ir vertimų biure, patvirtinti notariškai, bet...tai nieko iš esmės nekeičia. Yra taip, kaip yra...Anglų kalba čia niekuo dėta - vertimas padarytas pakankamai profesionaliai ir be klaidų.

Arūnai, tokie , kaip tamsta sužligdė daug gerų dalykų. Gali būti, kad sužlugdys ir IFBB federaciją...

[Sonata]

Čia Arūnui pavyzdėlis, ką daro jo "idejiniai vadai" užjūrio kraštuose, kad apgauti WADA:

CHEATING DOPING GAME BY THE IFBB CORPORATION

TONY BLINN:
“Dear Rafael,
Further to my e-mail below, I should have mentioned that, at first glance, I'd pick option #1. I believe the IFBB Anti-Doping Committee is not empowered or authorized to make decisions that are outside the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules and WADA Code. This committee, in my opinion, must only operate within the narrow confines of the aforementioned Rules and WADC. To me, this is the proper and right thing to do.
The right to a constitutional appeal directly to the IFBB President is every member's right and, to allow this to go forward is to show how well our democracy works. Only the President should have the right to reduce Santos' suspension to a period other than what's called for in the Rules.
Therefore, I would suggest the following course of action:
1. Allow the hearing decision and two-year suspension from the ADC to stand as is.
2. Send this decision to Santos via Pagnani and advise 1) that Santos should immediately appeal to the President under article 20.1 of the IFBB Constitution, and 2) that Santos should ask for leniency and a reduction to one-year as fair and just compensation for the wrongful disqualification from the finals of the World Championships.
3. Advise Pagnani and Santos that the hearing decision is to remain confidential [will not be publicly released] pending his appeal decision.
4. This will give you some time to craft a written appeal decision.
Keep in mind that a one-year suspension would run from November 6, 2008 to November 5, 2009 inclusive. In Dubai, November 4 is the Weigh-in; November 5 is the Prejudging; November 6 is the Finals. Because his suspension must end in time for the Weigh-in, you could suspend him for "one year less a day".
I really believe that the appeal process is the best way to go”.

TONY BLINN:
“Dear Rafael,
Given the unique circumstances, your "exception" is most welcome.
In my opinion, may I suggest we act as follows:
OPTION #1:
Apply the WADA Code and IFBB Anti-Doping Rules, suspend Santos for two years, advise him to appeal to the IFBB President (as is his constitutional right), strike an ad hoc appeal committee, which would overturn the hearing decision and render an appeal decision to reduce the suspension to one year.
OPTION #2:
Apply the WADA Code and IFBB Anti-Doping Rules in the hearing decision, state why he cannot succeed in his petition for relief under Articles 10.5.1 and 10.5.2 (the reason why should be obvious to all and I strongly believe we shouldn't play with this), but, when it comes to the suspension part of the decision, reduce the suspension to one year based on "exceptional circumstances". Of course, we will have to state what these circumstances are in a way that is acceptable from a "justice has been done" point of view.
I don't believe WADA would agree with such a decision; however, even more important than WADA, we have to do what's in the best interests of the IFBB first and foremost. And we all seem to agree that it's not in our best interests to suspend Mr. Santos for two years”.

RAFAEL SANTOCHA:
“Dear Members of the Anti Doping Commission:
You know that you have my full respect and trust regarding your decisions, and that I never interfere on your efficient work.
Let me make an exception in the case of Jose Carlos Santos.
I think that everybody is sharing the same feelings.
I was specially moved reminding the previous misunderstanding in the Malaysia World Championships.
I believe it would be advisable to have a shorter period of suspension with a reinstatement test, or something similar.
I leave this in your capable hands, but I wished to share with you these feelings.
Best regards,
Rafael”

EDUARDO HENRIQUE DE ROSE ESCRIBIÓ:
“You open the door for personal comments and I was considering to do one but, because it was a case of a Brazilian athlete, I was restraining myself to do it.
We have here an athlete that was many time World Champion, was also tested many times without any problem, and we never had a problem with him before. As a matter of fact, he had a problem with as, because the only time that we try to eliminate the athletes with adverse analytical results from Friday to Sunday, we disqualified him improperly, based in a preliminary report of the lab, that confess later on that a mistake was made.By this mysterious thing of the life, the lab was in Thailand, and with the disqualification of José Carlos, the Thai athlete won the Gold Medal in the category.
In my opinion, it is time to pay him back the mistake that was made, and to deduct some time of his sanction, enough to permit him to compete in Dubai, and to avoid a sad ending of a great athlete. My recommendations would be, for this reasons, to give him a sanction of one 18 months what would permit him to compete in the next World Championship”.

TONY BLYNN:
“I realize that personal feelings cannot enter into our hearing decision in the case of Jose Carlos Santos. Having said this, I must express my disappointment at hearing the news that Santos was positive. Such a great history of accomplishments -- a 6-time IFBB World Champion and Gold Medalist at the World Games. Tested negative more than 25 times.
I am remembering how we failed him at the World Championships at which he was mistakenly disqualified before the finals. I witnessed first-hand how deeply this affected him at the airport the next day. He was still in tears and appeared stunned and lost at how this could have happened. I recall feeling sad for him and ashamed at the same time because I was part of the IFBB officialdom that should have prevented it”.

wada atstovams butu idomu susipazinti su sita korespondencija :?:

Norėčiau pažymėti šią lakią frazę iš IFBB vadovo lūpų:

I don't believe WADA would agree with such a decision; however, even more important than WADA, we have to do what's in the best interests of the IFBB first and foremost.

jo...

[WFF-WBBF secretary service]

Čia Arūnui pavyzdėlis, ką daro jo "idejiniai vadai" užjūrio kraštuose, kad apgauti WADA:

CHEATING DOPING GAME BY THE IFBB CORPORATION

TONY BLINN:
“Dear Rafael,
Further to my e-mail below, I should have mentioned that, at first glance, I'd pick option #1. I believe the IFBB Anti-Doping Committee is not empowered or authorized to make decisions that are outside the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules and WADA Code. This committee, in my opinion, must only operate within the narrow confines of the aforementioned Rules and WADC. To me, this is the proper and right thing to do.
The right to a constitutional appeal directly to the IFBB President is every member's right and, to allow this to go forward is to show how well our democracy works. Only the President should have the right to reduce Santos' suspension to a period other than what's called for in the Rules.
Therefore, I would suggest the following course of action:
1. Allow the hearing decision and two-year suspension from the ADC to stand as is.
2. Send this decision to Santos via Pagnani and advise 1) that Santos should immediately appeal to the President under article 20.1 of the IFBB Constitution, and 2) that Santos should ask for leniency and a reduction to one-year as fair and just compensation for the wrongful disqualification from the finals of the World Championships.
3. Advise Pagnani and Santos that the hearing decision is to remain confidential [will not be publicly released] pending his appeal decision.
4. This will give you some time to craft a written appeal decision.
Keep in mind that a one-year suspension would run from November 6, 2008 to November 5, 2009 inclusive. In Dubai, November 4 is the Weigh-in; November 5 is the Prejudging; November 6 is the Finals. Because his suspension must end in time for the Weigh-in, you could suspend him for "one year less a day".
I really believe that the appeal process is the best way to go”.

TONY BLINN:
“Dear Rafael,
Given the unique circumstances, your "exception" is most welcome.
In my opinion, may I suggest we act as follows:
OPTION #1:
Apply the WADA Code and IFBB Anti-Doping Rules, suspend Santos for two years, advise him to appeal to the IFBB President (as is his constitutional right), strike an ad hoc appeal committee, which would overturn the hearing decision and render an appeal decision to reduce the suspension to one year.
OPTION #2:
Apply the WADA Code and IFBB Anti-Doping Rules in the hearing decision, state why he cannot succeed in his petition for relief under Articles 10.5.1 and 10.5.2 (the reason why should be obvious to all and I strongly believe we shouldn't play with this), but, when it comes to the suspension part of the decision, reduce the suspension to one year based on "exceptional circumstances". Of course, we will have to state what these circumstances are in a way that is acceptable from a "justice has been done" point of view.
I don't believe WADA would agree with such a decision; however, even more important than WADA, we have to do what's in the best interests of the IFBB first and foremost. And we all seem to agree that it's not in our best interests to suspend Mr. Santos for two years”.

RAFAEL SANTOCHA:
“Dear Members of the Anti Doping Commission:
You know that you have my full respect and trust regarding your decisions, and that I never interfere on your efficient work.
Let me make an exception in the case of Jose Carlos Santos.
I think that everybody is sharing the same feelings.
I was specially moved reminding the previous misunderstanding in the Malaysia World Championships.
I believe it would be advisable to have a shorter period of suspension with a reinstatement test, or something similar.
I leave this in your capable hands, but I wished to share with you these feelings.
Best regards,
Rafael”

EDUARDO HENRIQUE DE ROSE ESCRIBIÓ:
“You open the door for personal comments and I was considering to do one but, because it was a case of a Brazilian athlete, I was restraining myself to do it.
We have here an athlete that was many time World Champion, was also tested many times without any problem, and we never had a problem with him before. As a matter of fact, he had a problem with as, because the only time that we try to eliminate the athletes with adverse analytical results from Friday to Sunday, we disqualified him improperly, based in a preliminary report of the lab, that confess later on that a mistake was made.By this mysterious thing of the life, the lab was in Thailand, and with the disqualification of José Carlos, the Thai athlete won the Gold Medal in the category.
In my opinion, it is time to pay him back the mistake that was made, and to deduct some time of his sanction, enough to permit him to compete in Dubai, and to avoid a sad ending of a great athlete. My recommendations would be, for this reasons, to give him a sanction of one 18 months what would permit him to compete in the next World Championship”.

TONY BLYNN:
“I realize that personal feelings cannot enter into our hearing decision in the case of Jose Carlos Santos. Having said this, I must express my disappointment at hearing the news that Santos was positive. Such a great history of accomplishments -- a 6-time IFBB World Champion and Gold Medalist at the World Games. Tested negative more than 25 times.
I am remembering how we failed him at the World Championships at which he was mistakenly disqualified before the finals. I witnessed first-hand how deeply this affected him at the airport the next day. He was still in tears and appeared stunned and lost at how this could have happened. I recall feeling sad for him and ashamed at the same time because I was part of the IFBB officialdom that should have prevented it”.

wada atstovams butu idomu susipazinti su sita korespondencija :?:

Šiandien mes gavome laišką iš IFBB-EFBB vadovų.
Laiškas, datuotas 2009-04-02, skirtas WADA asociacijai.
Laiške IFBB vadovai pabrėžia IFBB Anti-dopingo komiteto ir asmeniškai prezidento RAFAELIO SANTOCHOS manipuliacijas menamoje kovoje su dopingu ir nurodo, kad nei IFBB Anti-dopingo komitetu, nei RAFAELIU SANTOCHA kovojant su dopingu pasitikėti negalima.

[WFF-WBBF secretary service]

Estijos IFBB federacija tarptautiniame kongrese pasiūlė išmintingą naujovę. Estai nuo 2001 metų nacionaliniame čempionate sėkmingai vykdo dopingo kontrolę, “pagauna” daug sportininkų. Praėjusių metų čempioate jie patikrino 18 sportininkų iš kurių 40 procentų buvo nauoję dopingą.
Estai siūlo vsose IFBB-EFBB kontorlę dopinguis susitiprinti, tikrinti visus finalininkus, kad nebūtų kaip iki šiol, kai dažnai čempionais tampa dopingą pamėgę kultūristai-fitnesistai.

[Vilija]

Estijos IFBB federacija tarptautiniame kongrese pasiūlė išmintingą naujovę. Estai nuo 2001 metų nacionaliniame čempionate sėkmingai vykdo dopingo kontrolę, “pagauna” daug sportininkų. Praėjusių metų čempioate jie patikrino 18 sportininkų iš kurių 40 procentų buvo nauoję dopingą.
Estai siūlo vsose IFBB-EFBB kontorlę dopinguis susitiprinti, tikrinti visus finalininkus, kad nebūtų kaip iki šiol, kai dažnai čempionais tampa dopingą pamėgę kultūristai-fitnesistai.

estai geri medziotojai 8)

[wff_edita]

Šiandien gavome laišką iš POLO ČIUA (Paul Chua), antro pagal rangą žmogaus tarptautinėje IFBB veikloje.
Jis kelia IFBB teisinio egzistavimo legalumo klausimą.
Pasak jo, oficialiai registruota komercinė firma, kuri net vadinasi kitu vardu, pristatoma visuomenei kaip tarptautinė IFBB federacija.
IFBB konstitucija (įstatai), kurie paviešinti oficialiame IFBB interneto puslapyje, visai kiti, negu yra iš tikro.
IFBB – tai tik komercinė firma ir nieko daugiau.
P.ČIUA kaltina RAFAELĮ SANTOCHĄ, kad šis vengia viešo klausimo svarstymo, neatsako į oficialiai pateiktus juridinius ir finansinius klausimus.
Tačiau tikri IFBB patriotai eis iki galo ir parodys viską taip, kaip yra iš tikro.
Tam jau kreiptasi į Ispanijos ir Kanados policiją, išsiųsti dokumentai į WADA asociaciją.
Čia Šiaulių "fair play"atstovas galės susipažinti, kaip IFBB manipuliuoja su dopingu (beje, WADA šio dukomento kopiją irgi iš Singapūro gavo).

[wff_edita]

Šiandien gavome laišką iš POLO ČIUA (Paul Chua), antro pagal rangą žmogaus tarptautinėje IFBB veikloje.
Jis kelia IFBB teisinio egzistavimo legalumo klausimą.
Pasak jo, oficialiai registruota komercinė firma, kuri net vadinasi kitu vardu, pristatoma visuomenei kaip tarptautinė IFBB federacija.
IFBB konstitucija (įstatai), kurie paviešinti oficialiame IFBB interneto puslapyje, visai kiti, negu yra iš tikro.
IFBB – tai tik komercinė firma ir nieko daugiau.
P.ČIUA kaltina RAFAELĮ SANTOCHĄ, kad šis vengia viešo klausimo svarstymo, neatsako į oficialiai pateiktus juridinius ir finansinius klausimus.
Tačiau tikri IFBB patriotai eis iki galo ir parodys viską taip, kaip yra iš tikro.
Tam jau kreiptasi į Ispanijos ir Kanados policiją, išsiųsti dokumentai į WADA asociaciją.
Čia Šiaulių "fair play"atstovas galės susipažinti, kaip IFBB manipuliuoja su dopingu (beje, WADA šio dokumento kopiją irgi iš Singapūro gavo).

DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE ABBF
I FEEL IT IS MY DUTY TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND AS TO WHY THE "IFBB" IS ACTING DESPERATELY TO REMOVE ME AND TO SUSPEND ALL OUR ABBF EXECUTIVE MEMBERS FOR ONE YEAR AS PER THE CIRCULAR LETTER SENT BY ADEL FAHIM, "EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE IFBB PRESIDENT" A COPY OF WHICH I HAVE WITH ME WRITTEN IN ARABIC AND TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH.
ANOTHER LETTER WAS SENT BY WILLIAM TIERNEY AS WELL.
RAFAEL AVOIDED IN SENDING THIS EMAIL AS HE KNOW THE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES INVOLVED.
HE CANNOT SIMPLY SUSPEND A CONTINENTAL FEDERATION, SINCE THEIR HOUSE IS NOT IN ORDER AND THEY HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER US, WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT THEM.
ABBF UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED BY MANY ASIAN COUNTRIES, AND IF A COMMITTEE IS FORMED BY RAFAEL'S GROUP WE WILL ELIMINATE THEM.
WE HAVE SPOKEN TO OUR LAWYERS IN LONDON AND THEY HAVE ASKED US TO CONTINUE WITH OUR WORK, AND IF RAFAEL AND HIS GROUP DISTURB US WE WILL TAKE LEGAL ACTION, THEY CANNOT DICTATATE AS WE HAD ALREADY PROCEEDED WITH OUR LEGAL PROCEEDINGS LAST MONTH.
THERE WAS NO NATURAL JUSTICE AND NO FAIR HEARING GIVEN TO ALL OF US.
IN THIS DEMOCRATIC AND CIVILISED WORLD NO INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION WILL SUSPEND A CONTINENTAL FEDERATION OR ITS EXECUTIVE MEMBERS WITHOUT A FAIR HEARING.
THEY SUSPENDED US BECAUSE OF THE 2005 DOPING CASES.
WE DID SUSPEND ALL THE ATHLETES AND EXCEPT FOR THE 3 HONGKONG ATHLETES THEIR SUSPENSION WERE REDUCED FROM 2 YEARS TO A YEAR WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE LATE BEN WEIDER AND THE IFBB. WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THE LATE BEN WEIDER TO PROVE. IFBB ALSO REDUCED THE SUSPENSION OF 2 ATHLETES FROM QATAR BY ACCEPTING US$10,000 FOR EACH OFFENCE FROM 2 YEARS TO 8 MONTHS. I HAVE ALL THE PAPERS WITH ME TO SHOW PROOF.
ABBF WILL NOT BE THE SERVANT OF THE "IFBB" NO MATTER WHAT, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR DUTY AND ACTIVITIES AS USUAL AND WE WILL ORGANISE OUR CHAMPIONSHIPS ON OUR OWN TO PROMOTE THIS SPORT.
I WOULD CALL UPON YOU TO STAND STRONG AND DO NOT GIVE WAY TO PRESSURE BECAUSE THIS "IFBB GROUP" IS STILL IN LIMBO BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL, AND THEY HAVE NOT PICKED THE COURAGE TO REPLY THE EMAIL WHICH MR. AXEL BAUER SENT TO THEM.
WHY?
THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE ACCOUNTS OF THE IFBB.
AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE IFBB CORPORATION IS NOT THE SAME AS PUBLISHED IN THEIR WEBSITE???
BE BRAVE AND STAND TALL AGAINST THEIR THREATS AND SUSPENSIONS ..
WE CANNOT BE COWED AROUND.
PLEASE READ THE LETTER SHOWN BELOW AND DIGEST SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW THE ACTUAL REASON WHY MR. RAFAEL SANTONJA IS NOT ANSWERING?
THE IFBB WAS REGISTERED UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME AND ALSO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE IFBB AND THE REGISTERED CORPORATIONS ARE NOT THE SAME.
THIS IS A BUSINESS CORPORATION.
RAFAEL IS SILENCING ME BECAUSE HE IS AFRAID THAT AT THE CONGRESS I WILL CHALLENGE HIM AND HE FEEL THAT BY SUSPENDING ALL MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMIT TE OF THE ABBF , HE CAN DO AS AS HE WISH, NOBODY TO QUESTION HIM.
IF HE IS A BRAVE MAN, HE SHOULD NOT USE THIS DIRTY TACTIC TO SUSPEND ME AND THE ABBF.
THE EXCUSE OF DOPING MATTERS IS A PRETEXT, AND WE WILL WRITE TO WADA AND CHECK IF THIS IS TRUE OR FALSE. IT WAS THE IFFB THAT SET THE PRECEDENT OF REDUCING SUSPENSIONS, AND WE DID WITH THE CONSENT OF THE THE LATE IFBB PRESIDENT AND ALSO RAFAEL AND PAMELA WERE INFORMED. WHY THEY DID NOT OBJECT AT THAT TIME, THEY WENT ALONG WITH THE DECISION WHICH WAS MADE BY BEN.
MORE DOCUMENTS WILL BE EMAILED TO YOU SOON.
WE HAVE SOLID EVIDENCES
IF YOU RECEIVE ANY EMAIL OR LETTER FROM THE" IFBB" PLEASE IGNORE THEM AND CONTACT THE ABBF SECRETARY-GENERAL FOR CLARIFICATION BEFORE YOU REPLY THEM. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE UNITED AND STRONG.
IF YOUR OLYMPIC COMMITTEE OR ANY DEPARTMENTS WERE TO CALL YOU FOR EXPLANATIONS, PLEASE SHOW THEM THESE EMAILS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THE "IFBB" LEGAL STATUS IS IN QUESTION?
AND THEIR FINANCIAL PROBLEM IS IN A MESS.
PRINT OUT ALL THE DOCUMENTS WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN RECEIVING ABOUT THE IFBB LATELY AND HAND OVER TO THEM.
OUR PRESIDENT MR. OSAMA ALSHAFAR HAVE ASKED ME TO TELL YOU THAT WE WILL FIGHT ON WITH THIS DESTRUCTIVE GROUP AND WILL NOT RETREAT.
LONG LIVE ASI
PAUL CHUA
SECRETARY-GENERAL/TREASURER - ABBF

PLEASE READ THE ONES WHICH I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED PRINT...WHERE THE MONEY OF THE IFBB GONE TO??? MYSTERY NEED TO BE SOLVED

[Birute]

Šiandien gavome laišką iš POLO ČIUA (Paul Chua), antro pagal rangą žmogaus tarptautinėje IFBB veikloje.
Jis kelia IFBB teisinio egzistavimo legalumo klausimą.
Pasak jo, oficialiai registruota komercinė firma, kuri net vadinasi kitu vardu, pristatoma visuomenei kaip tarptautinė IFBB federacija.
IFBB konstitucija (įstatai), kurie paviešinti oficialiame IFBB interneto puslapyje, visai kiti, negu yra iš tikro.
IFBB – tai tik komercinė firma ir nieko daugiau.
P.ČIUA kaltina RAFAELĮ SANTOCHĄ, kad šis vengia viešo klausimo svarstymo, neatsako į oficialiai pateiktus juridinius ir finansinius klausimus.
Tačiau tikri IFBB patriotai eis iki galo ir parodys viską taip, kaip yra iš tikro.
Tam jau kreiptasi į Ispanijos ir Kanados policiją, išsiųsti dokumentai į WADA asociaciją.
Čia Šiaulių "fair play"atstovas galės susipažinti, kaip IFBB manipuliuoja su dopingu (beje, WADA šio dokumento kopiją irgi iš Singapūro gavo).

DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE ABBF
I FEEL IT IS MY DUTY TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND AS TO WHY THE "IFBB" IS ACTING DESPERATELY TO REMOVE ME AND TO SUSPEND ALL OUR ABBF EXECUTIVE MEMBERS FOR ONE YEAR AS PER THE CIRCULAR LETTER SENT BY ADEL FAHIM, "EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE IFBB PRESIDENT" A COPY OF WHICH I HAVE WITH ME WRITTEN IN ARABIC AND TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH.
ANOTHER LETTER WAS SENT BY WILLIAM TIERNEY AS WELL.
RAFAEL AVOIDED IN SENDING THIS EMAIL AS HE KNOW THE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES INVOLVED.
HE CANNOT SIMPLY SUSPEND A CONTINENTAL FEDERATION, SINCE THEIR HOUSE IS NOT IN ORDER AND THEY HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER US, WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT THEM.
ABBF UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED BY MANY ASIAN COUNTRIES, AND IF A COMMITTEE IS FORMED BY RAFAEL'S GROUP WE WILL ELIMINATE THEM.
WE HAVE SPOKEN TO OUR LAWYERS IN LONDON AND THEY HAVE ASKED US TO CONTINUE WITH OUR WORK, AND IF RAFAEL AND HIS GROUP DISTURB US WE WILL TAKE LEGAL ACTION, THEY CANNOT DICTATATE AS WE HAD ALREADY PROCEEDED WITH OUR LEGAL PROCEEDINGS LAST MONTH.
THERE WAS NO NATURAL JUSTICE AND NO FAIR HEARING GIVEN TO ALL OF US.
IN THIS DEMOCRATIC AND CIVILISED WORLD NO INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION WILL SUSPEND A CONTINENTAL FEDERATION OR ITS EXECUTIVE MEMBERS WITHOUT A FAIR HEARING.
THEY SUSPENDED US BECAUSE OF THE 2005 DOPING CASES.
WE DID SUSPEND ALL THE ATHLETES AND EXCEPT FOR THE 3 HONGKONG ATHLETES THEIR SUSPENSION WERE REDUCED FROM 2 YEARS TO A YEAR WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE LATE BEN WEIDER AND THE IFBB. WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THE LATE BEN WEIDER TO PROVE. IFBB ALSO REDUCED THE SUSPENSION OF 2 ATHLETES FROM QATAR BY ACCEPTING US$10,000 FOR EACH OFFENCE FROM 2 YEARS TO 8 MONTHS. I HAVE ALL THE PAPERS WITH ME TO SHOW PROOF.
ABBF WILL NOT BE THE SERVANT OF THE "IFBB" NO MATTER WHAT, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR DUTY AND ACTIVITIES AS USUAL AND WE WILL ORGANISE OUR CHAMPIONSHIPS ON OUR OWN TO PROMOTE THIS SPORT.
I WOULD CALL UPON YOU TO STAND STRONG AND DO NOT GIVE WAY TO PRESSURE BECAUSE THIS "IFBB GROUP" IS STILL IN LIMBO BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL, AND THEY HAVE NOT PICKED THE COURAGE TO REPLY THE EMAIL WHICH MR. AXEL BAUER SENT TO THEM.
WHY?
THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE ACCOUNTS OF THE IFBB.
AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE IFBB CORPORATION IS NOT THE SAME AS PUBLISHED IN THEIR WEBSITE???
BE BRAVE AND STAND TALL AGAINST THEIR THREATS AND SUSPENSIONS ..
WE CANNOT BE COWED AROUND.
PLEASE READ THE LETTER SHOWN BELOW AND DIGEST SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW THE ACTUAL REASON WHY MR. RAFAEL SANTONJA IS NOT ANSWERING?
THE IFBB WAS REGISTERED UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME AND ALSO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE IFBB AND THE REGISTERED CORPORATIONS ARE NOT THE SAME.
THIS IS A BUSINESS CORPORATION.
RAFAEL IS SILENCING ME BECAUSE HE IS AFRAID THAT AT THE CONGRESS I WILL CHALLENGE HIM AND HE FEEL THAT BY SUSPENDING ALL MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMIT TE OF THE ABBF , HE CAN DO AS AS HE WISH, NOBODY TO QUESTION HIM.
IF HE IS A BRAVE MAN, HE SHOULD NOT USE THIS DIRTY TACTIC TO SUSPEND ME AND THE ABBF.
THE EXCUSE OF DOPING MATTERS IS A PRETEXT, AND WE WILL WRITE TO WADA AND CHECK IF THIS IS TRUE OR FALSE. IT WAS THE IFFB THAT SET THE PRECEDENT OF REDUCING SUSPENSIONS, AND WE DID WITH THE CONSENT OF THE THE LATE IFBB PRESIDENT AND ALSO RAFAEL AND PAMELA WERE INFORMED. WHY THEY DID NOT OBJECT AT THAT TIME, THEY WENT ALONG WITH THE DECISION WHICH WAS MADE BY BEN.
MORE DOCUMENTS WILL BE EMAILED TO YOU SOON.
WE HAVE SOLID EVIDENCES
IF YOU RECEIVE ANY EMAIL OR LETTER FROM THE" IFBB" PLEASE IGNORE THEM AND CONTACT THE ABBF SECRETARY-GENERAL FOR CLARIFICATION BEFORE YOU REPLY THEM. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE UNITED AND STRONG.
IF YOUR OLYMPIC COMMITTEE OR ANY DEPARTMENTS WERE TO CALL YOU FOR EXPLANATIONS, PLEASE SHOW THEM THESE EMAILS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THE "IFBB" LEGAL STATUS IS IN QUESTION?
AND THEIR FINANCIAL PROBLEM IS IN A MESS.
PRINT OUT ALL THE DOCUMENTS WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN RECEIVING ABOUT THE IFBB LATELY AND HAND OVER TO THEM.
OUR PRESIDENT MR. OSAMA ALSHAFAR HAVE ASKED ME TO TELL YOU THAT WE WILL FIGHT ON WITH THIS DESTRUCTIVE GROUP AND WILL NOT RETREAT.
LONG LIVE ASI
PAUL CHUA
SECRETARY-GENERAL/TREASURER - ABBF

PLEASE READ THE ONES WHICH I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED PRINT...WHERE THE MONEY OF THE IFBB GONE TO??? MYSTERY NEED TO BE SOLVED

:roll:

[E.Sendriene_WFF_WBBF]

...IFBB ALSO REDUCED THE SUSPENSION OF 2 ATHLETES FROM QATAR BY ACCEPTING US$10,000 FOR EACH OFFENCE FROM 2 YEARS TO 8 MONTHS. I HAVE ALL THE PAPERS WITH ME TO SHOW PROOF.
ABBF WILL NOT BE THE SERVANT OF THE "IFBB" NO MATTER WHAT, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR DUTY AND ACTIVITIES AS USUAL AND WE WILL ORGANISE OUR CHAMPIONSHIPS ON OUR OWN TO PROMOTE THIS SPORT....

WADA apsidžiaugs šituo IFBB vice prezidento aišku.
Šita "rimta" IFBB komercinės veiklos sritis pasako IFBB požiūrį į dopingo naudojimą: kai tave pagavo, susimokėjai 10 000 dolerių, ir gali toliau naudoti dopingą, kaltę išpirkai...
Šaunuolis tas Rafaelis, pasirodo...

[Ellada]

...IFBB ALSO REDUCED THE SUSPENSION OF 2 ATHLETES FROM QATAR BY ACCEPTING US$10,000 FOR EACH OFFENCE FROM 2 YEARS TO 8 MONTHS. I HAVE ALL THE PAPERS WITH ME TO SHOW PROOF.
ABBF WILL NOT BE THE SERVANT OF THE "IFBB" NO MATTER WHAT, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR DUTY AND ACTIVITIES AS USUAL AND WE WILL ORGANISE OUR CHAMPIONSHIPS ON OUR OWN TO PROMOTE THIS SPORT....

WADA apsidžiaugs šituo IFBB vice prezidento aišku.
Šita "rimta" IFBB komercinės veiklos sritis pasako IFBB požiūrį į dopingo naudojimą: kai tave pagavo, susimokėjai 10 000 dolerių, ir gali toliau naudoti dopingą, kaltę išpirkai...
Šaunuolis tas Rafaelis, pasirodo...

o ka uzmerkei meskere ir gaudai savo sportininkus tai geras navaras is baudu ir kysiu

[Dita]

JUODI DARBELIAI
Kažkada kalbėjome su IFBB pareigūnu ir šis papasakojo tokią istoriją.
IFBB pasaulio mėgėjų čempionate „pagavo“ naudojus dopingą 28 finalininkus iš 35 dalyvių (7 kategorijos po 5 dalyvius). Tuomet tarp „pakliuvusių“ buvo visa Rusijos rinktinė (8 žmonės) ir vienas lietuvis.
Ankstų Šv. Kalėdų rytą mūsų vadovas sulaukė skambučio iš JAV. Skambino gerbiama Pamela ir švelniai reikalavo, kad 2000 dolerių bauda už Lietuvos sportininką būtų tuojau pat sumokėta.
Tuomet tai atrodė keistoka, vis tik Kalėdų rytas...
Tačiau dabar aišku, kad čia nieko stebėtino: normalus IFBB komercinės firmos biznis.
Kuo daugiau sportininkų „pagaus“, tuo daugiau firma „uždirbs“.
IFBB firma skubėjo sau Kalėdoms pasidaryti „dovanėlę“...
Dar labiau nestebina tai, kad (pagal nesenai IFBB finansininko paviešintus dokumentus) už 10 000 dolerių IFBB komersantai sutinka apgauti WADA ir „nusikaltėlio“ dviejų metų diskvalifikaciją sumažinti iki kelių mėnesių.
Biznis ir tiek...

[Ronas]

JUODI DARBELIAI
Kažkada kalbėjome su IFBB pareigūnu ir šis papasakojo tokią istoriją.
IFBB pasaulio mėgėjų čempionate „pagavo“ naudojus dopingą 28 finalininkus iš 35 dalyvių (7 kategorijos po 5 dalyvius). Tuomet tarp „pakliuvusių“ buvo visa Rusijos rinktinė (8 žmonės) ir vienas lietuvis.
Ankstų Šv. Kalėdų rytą mūsų vadovas sulaukė skambučio iš JAV. Skambino gerbiama Pamela ir švelniai reikalavo, kad 2000 dolerių bauda už Lietuvos sportininką būtų tuojau pat sumokėta.
Tuomet tai atrodė keistoka, vis tik Kalėdų rytas...
Tačiau dabar aišku, kad čia nieko stebėtino: normalus IFBB komercinės firmos biznis.
Kuo daugiau sportininkų „pagaus“, tuo daugiau firma „uždirbs“.
IFBB firma skubėjo sau Kalėdoms pasidaryti „dovanėlę“...
Dar labiau nestebina tai, kad (pagal nesenai IFBB finansininko paviešintus dokumentus) už 10 000 dolerių IFBB komersantai sutinka apgauti WADA ir „nusikaltėlio“ dviejų metų diskvalifikaciją sumažinti iki kelių mėnesių.
Biznis ir tiek...

geras :roll:

[Tina]

...IFBB ALSO REDUCED THE SUSPENSION OF 2 ATHLETES FROM QATAR BY ACCEPTING US$10,000 FOR EACH OFFENCE FROM 2 YEARS TO 8 MONTHS. I HAVE ALL THE PAPERS WITH ME TO SHOW PROOF.
ABBF WILL NOT BE THE SERVANT OF THE "IFBB" NO MATTER WHAT, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR DUTY AND ACTIVITIES AS USUAL AND WE WILL ORGANISE OUR CHAMPIONSHIPS ON OUR OWN TO PROMOTE THIS SPORT....

WADA apsidžiaugs šituo IFBB vice prezidento aišku.
Šita "rimta" IFBB komercinės veiklos sritis pasako IFBB požiūrį į dopingo naudojimą: kai tave pagavo, susimokėjai 10 000 dolerių, ir gali toliau naudoti dopingą, kaltę išpirkai...
Šaunuolis tas Rafaelis, pasirodo...

o ka uzmerkei meskere ir gaudai savo sportininkus tai geras navaras is baudu ir kysiu

tai visai neblogai?

[E.Sendriene_WFF_WBBF]

Šiandien IFBB vyriausias finansininkas atsiuntė dar vieną laišką publikacijai internete.
Laiške dėstoma, kaip IFBB apgaudinėja WADA dėl dopingo, „suka“ pinigus, o pačios sportinės IFBB federacijos oficialiai neegzistuoja...:

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I heard from my friends that the IFBB is threatening you and Mr. Chua about the Doping Documents and that they will report to the authorities in Hongkong and Singapore. Please DO NOT BE AFRAID...this has nothing to do with them. They lied and said that WADA require the documents. Write to WADA and they will tell you that IFBB is telling full of shits and lies.
1. There is a perjury case against Ms. Pamela Kagan and this is very serious matter because as I know that in Canada and USA, the person could go to jail.
Mr. Chua was not present and the IFBB minutes shows that he was present??
2. Tony Blinn himself tried to cover up and cheat the case on Doping to assist the Brazilian athlete, therefore, this is a proof that the "IFBB" is not an angel or a clean federation. They are cheats.
3. I also came to know that Qatar paid to "IFBB" a sum of US$3000.- for legal fees to draft the Hearing conducted by Adel Fahim.
4. In 2004 the IFBB set a precedent by accepting US$20,000.- from Qatar federation and reduced the suspensions on Kamal and Ali and you should show the letter to the authorities . Rafael and Pamela gave consent to reduce the suspension from 2 years to 8 months. Where did the money went to?
5. The "IFBB" was not registered in Canada or Spain under the association act but they were registered under the corporation "IFBB INC" and in Spain under the Spanish name as Business House. Only 4 peoples' name were registered under the Business corporation which includes Rafael, William
Tieryney, Jose and one more person. This is the biggest JOKE, how can four people own the "IFBB" This is to cheat the national federations for sure. Till today, Rafael did not reply Axel Baeur's allegations, WHY? This is a disgrace. He knows the reason????
6. A company owned by Rafael Santonja has been settling all the IFBB invoices and this is to evade taxes in Spain. This must be reported to the authorities.
Mr. Chua have all the evidences and he should produce all these to the authorities and expose the dirty tactics of Rafael and his YES-MEN..
I have more news for you all soon.
Victor

[WFF-WBBF secretary service]

Šiandien gavome dar vieną laišką iš Singapūro, kurį prašoma paviešinti WFF-WBBF forume.
IFBB vice prezidentas POLAS ČIUA laiške RAFAELIUI SANTOCHAI aprašo eilinius nešvarius RAFAELIO žaidimus, taikant sankcijas už dopingo naudojimą IFBB:

Today we received one more letter to publish in the Forum from the IFBB-International Vice President PAUL CHUA <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>:

From: baba madhok <babamadhok@gmail.com>
Subject: Fwd: LETTER TO RAFAEL SANTONJA
To: internacional@santonja.com, osama@alshafar.ae, ifbbeurope@yahoo.com, p.filleborn@neostrada.pl, albert@busek.de, dubinin@fbfr.ru, wanda.tierney@ukonline.co.uk, abbfasia@yahoo.com..sg, spbbf@slingshot.co.nz, pkagan@ifbbprofessionalleague.com, tblinn@ifbbpro.com, efbb@tedata.net, eg@yahoo.com, ifbbcaribbean@msn.com, aquilesdecesare@hotmail.com, pcgraham@ozemail.com.au, bettomondello@libero.it, christina_weider@yahoo.com
Cc: "babamadhok" <babamadhok@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, 24 April, 2009, 6:01 PM

LETTER TO RAFAEL SANTONJA

Dear IFBB Executive Members & ABBF Executive Members:
I am appalled and surprised that Rafael Santonja can forgive Qatar Weightlifting and Bodybuilding Federation in lifting their suspension for FORGERY of DOPING DOCUMENTS which is a criminal offence in the eye of the law and instead targeting the ABBF and Mr. Paul Chua for the doping incidents of 2005 which the late Ben Weider was in charge of this matter together with his staff in Montreal, Canada.
I am aware that all doping results were sent directly to the IFBB Headquarters and not to ABBF. Why the IFBB does not keep all these records and why only now the IFBB under the president-ship of Rafael Santonja who is having a personal conflict and personalty clash with Paul Chua is asking for all these papers after a period of 4 long years. Surely IFBB as a responsible organisation will keep the records of all doping matters and suspensions? Why they are shifting this responsibility to the ABBF?
I smell something fishy?
I was shocked that Rafael appointed the General-Secretary of Qatar W/Lifting and Bodybuilding Federation Mr. Ibrahim Kafood to head the IFBB Commission for Asia? How can he do this when there is a legal case being pursued by the ABBF on the Qatar matter through their lawyers in London against the lifting of the suspension on Qatar.
I think Rafael should stop "double-standard" practises and be honest and straight-forward to all the the nations instead of beating around the bush and asking his Acting General-Secretary William Tierney to write letters here and there to disrupt the great harmony of the Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation.
Thank you
Baba Madhok

[Tina]

Šiandien gavome dar vieną laišką iš Singapūro, kurį prašoma paviešinti WFF-WBBF forume.
IFBB vice prezidentas POLAS ČIUA laiške RAFAELIUI SANTOCHAI aprašo eilinius nešvarius RAFAELIO žaidimus, taikant sankcijas už dopingo naudojimą IFBB:

Today we received one more letter to publish in the Forum from the IFBB-International Vice President PAUL CHUA <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>:

From: baba madhok <babamadhok@gmail.com>
Subject: Fwd: LETTER TO RAFAEL SANTONJA
To: internacional@santonja.com, osama@alshafar.ae, ifbbeurope@yahoo.com, p.filleborn@neostrada.pl, albert@busek.de, dubinin@fbfr.ru, wanda.tierney@ukonline.co.uk, abbfasia@yahoo.com..sg, spbbf@slingshot.co.nz, pkagan@ifbbprofessionalleague.com, tblinn@ifbbpro.com, efbb@tedata.net, eg@yahoo.com, ifbbcaribbean@msn.com, aquilesdecesare@hotmail.com, pcgraham@ozemail.com.au, bettomondello@libero.it, christina_weider@yahoo.com
Cc: "babamadhok" <babamadhok@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, 24 April, 2009, 6:01 PM

LETTER TO RAFAEL SANTONJA

Dear IFBB Executive Members & ABBF Executive Members:
I am appalled and surprised that Rafael Santonja can forgive Qatar Weightlifting and Bodybuilding Federation in lifting their suspension for FORGERY of DOPING DOCUMENTS which is a criminal offence in the eye of the law and instead targeting the ABBF and Mr. Paul Chua for the doping incidents of 2005 which the late Ben Weider was in charge of this matter together with his staff in Montreal, Canada.
I am aware that all doping results were sent directly to the IFBB Headquarters and not to ABBF. Why the IFBB does not keep all these records and why only now the IFBB under the president-ship of Rafael Santonja who is having a personal conflict and personalty clash with Paul Chua is asking for all these papers after a period of 4 long years. Surely IFBB as a responsible organisation will keep the records of all doping matters and suspensions? Why they are shifting this responsibility to the ABBF?
I smell something fishy?
I was shocked that Rafael appointed the General-Secretary of Qatar W/Lifting and Bodybuilding Federation Mr. Ibrahim Kafood to head the IFBB Commission for Asia? How can he do this when there is a legal case being pursued by the ABBF on the Qatar matter through their lawyers in London against the lifting of the suspension on Qatar.
I think Rafael should stop "double-standard" practises and be honest and straight-forward to all the the nations instead of beating around the bush and asking his Acting General-Secretary William Tierney to write letters here and there to disrupt the great harmony of the Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation.
Thank you
Baba Madhok

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