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Пришло ещё письмо от ПОЛА ЧУА из Сингапура.
Генеральная ассамблея культуризма по Азии поддерживает противников ИФББ и не признаёт Р.САНТОХУ:
Subject: Bodybuilding
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:38:58 +0300
From: Husain@OCASIA.ORG
To: info@ifbb.com
CC: nolvenn.dufay@sportaccord.com
Dr. Rafael Santonja
President, IFBB, e-mail: info@ifbb.com
Dear Dr. Santonja
I would like to refer to the various communications the OCA has been receiving with regard to the sport of bodybuilding in Asia. As far as OCA is concerned the OCA recognizes the Asian Bodybuilding Federation of which Mr. Osama Ahmed Al-Shafar is the President and Mr. Paul Chua is the Secretary General, as they were officially and duly elected by the Asian Bodybuilding Federation General Assembly consisting of the National Bodybuilding Federations from Asia. Any change should be done through the General Assembly. The OCA will accept the technical delegate only nominated by the Asian Bodybuilding Federations for the bodybuilding competitions during the Asian Beach Games. Please rest a sure of OCA for full support of the Bodybuilding in the Asian Games ,
Looking Forward to meet with you ASAP to clear any misunderstanding.
With My Best Regards,
Husain Al-Musallam
Director General & Technical Director
P.O.Box 6706
Hawalli 32042 Kuwait
Tel. + 965 - 25717196
Fax + 965 - 25734973
http://www.ocasia.org
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ПРИБЛИЖАЕТСЯ КОНЕЦ УЧАСТИЮ ИФББ В ПРИЗНАННЫХ СОРЕВНОВАНИЯХ МИРА
Сегодня мы получили ещё одно письмо от ПОЛА ЧУА (Сингапур).
Велика вероятность, что с этими «Всемирными играми», проходящими в Азии, Р.САНТОХА со своей федерацией прощается с официальным признанием.
Олимпийский комитет Азии, базирующийся в Китае и объединяющий более 40 стран, не признаёт ИФББ, но признаёт его оппонентов:
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: OCA SUPPORT'S ABBF ELECTED IN SHANGHAI, CHINA IN 2007
To: "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>
Cc: "Osama Ahmed Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>
Date: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 6:33 PM
Dear Colleagues in Bodybuilding
It is our great pleasure in sending this information to all members of the ABBF in which you will note that the Olympic Council of Asia (OCA) affirms and confirms its recognition to our federation and its Executive Committee which was duly elected in Shanghai, People's Republic of China.
This is a proof that no other federation will be recognised by them.
I hope you are pleased to read this email.
With best wishes
Paul Chua
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Сегодня мы получили ещё одно письмо от юриста ИФББ с просьбой опубликовать на форуме.
Федерация культуристов Азии поздравляет ИФГФ – организаторов Всемирных игр. Федерация культуристов Азии подчёркивает, что из-за вины РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХИ много стран не имели возможности участвовать в играх, а Малайзия и Китай отказались сами. 8 из 9 спортсменов Египта были отстранены от участия в связи с подозрением на применение ими допинга.
По просьбе представителя ИФББ в Египте на допинг в играх проверят только одного из призёров, что даст возможность многим избежать контроля и наказания.
From: ifbbpro@rocketmail.com <ifbbpro@rocketmail.com>
Subject: NO SHOW UP BY CHINA, MALAYSIA AND 8 EGYPTIANS MISSING???? BREAKING NEWS
To: vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es, abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg
Date: Friday, 17 July, 2009, 6:33 AM
Dear Bodybuilding Enthusiasts
We should support the World Games because it is a sporting organisation assisting non-Olympic sportsmen to gather and participate. We salute IWGF and the Kaohsiung World Organising Committee for doing a great job in hosting the 2009 World Games in Taiwan.
But we strongly detest the IFBB's system in selecting the team of bodybuilders to represent at the Games. It was politics. Second stringers' athletes from India were being fielded to help the "ibbf" unrecognised Indian Team under More and his group affiliated to the IFBB to compete. A SHAM for sure.
The BREAKING NEWS are:
a) MALAYSIA did not send their athlete because they felt insulted when the IFBB tried to cover the Doping incident of Jose from Brazil from the last World Bodybuilding Championships held in Manama, Bahrain; If the IFBB can cheat doping ..what about the results, athletes do not trust them!!!! MALAYSIA support the ABBF 100% and sending a strong team to Pattaya, Thailand for the Asian Championships
b) CHINA also abstained in sending their athletes . No reasons were given but from sources we understand that the IFBB officials are arrogant and unfriendly. Without Paul Chua, the Chinese may be treated by the IFBB badly. Chua was very co-operative and a friendly guy who knows the sensitiveness of the Asian people like the Chinese in particular. His presence would have made a difference. He knows how to socialise and bring the people together.
c) WOW... Heard rumours that Egypt sent only 1 athlete because 8 were either positive on drugs or they were afraid of the target testing by WADA. They will fail the test. At the IFBB competitions, the EGYPTIAN BODYBUILDERS are treated like the Pharaohs and the IFBB willingly consented to their request at the last Congress in Manama that only one from the top 3 will be tested for dope testing and 1 or 2 athletes will be picked from the 4th - 6th placings. Why? Because the Egyptians are all on drugs and they will surely win the top 3 spots and by testing only one from the top 3, they could escape dope testing and win the Team Championships trophy. Rafael allowed this system to help Egypt. Is this a fair game? You JUDGE.
Now through the folly of Rafael, Maurico and William, they blundered and deprived many other athletes from participating in the World Games. This favouritism game of the IFBB must be checked and the IFBB should be questioned for all these nonsense.
Victor Mendis
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WFF secretary service Wrote:Сегодня мы получили ещё одно письмо от юриста ИФББ с просьбой опубликовать на форуме.
Федерация культуристов Азии поздравляет ИФГФ – организаторов Всемирных игр. Федерация культуристов Азии подчёркивает, что из-за вины РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХИ много стран не имели возможности участвовать в играх, а Малайзия и Китай отказались сами. 8 из 9 спортсменов Египта были отстранены от участия в связи с подозрением на применение ими допинга.
По просьбе представителя ИФББ в Египте на допинг в играх проверят только одного из призёров, что даст возможность многим избежать контроля и наказания.
From: ifbbpro@rocketmail.com <ifbbpro@rocketmail.com>
Subject: NO SHOW UP BY CHINA, MALAYSIA AND 8 EGYPTIANS MISSING???? BREAKING NEWS
To: vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es, abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg
Date: Friday, 17 July, 2009, 6:33 AM
Dear Bodybuilding Enthusiasts
We should support the World Games because it is a sporting organisation assisting non-Olympic sportsmen to gather and participate. We salute IWGF and the Kaohsiung World Organising Committee for doing a great job in hosting the 2009 World Games in Taiwan.
But we strongly detest the IFBB's system in selecting the team of bodybuilders to represent at the Games. It was politics. Second stringers' athletes from India were being fielded to help the "ibbf" unrecognised Indian Team under More and his group affiliated to the IFBB to compete. A SHAM for sure.
The BREAKING NEWS are:
a) MALAYSIA did not send their athlete because they felt insulted when the IFBB tried to cover the Doping incident of Jose from Brazil from the last World Bodybuilding Championships held in Manama, Bahrain; If the IFBB can cheat doping ..what about the results, athletes do not trust them!!!! MALAYSIA support the ABBF 100% and sending a strong team to Pattaya, Thailand for the Asian Championships
b) CHINA also abstained in sending their athletes . No reasons were given but from sources we understand that the IFBB officials are arrogant and unfriendly. Without Paul Chua, the Chinese may be treated by the IFBB badly. Chua was very co-operative and a friendly guy who knows the sensitiveness of the Asian people like the Chinese in particular. His presence would have made a difference. He knows how to socialise and bring the people together.
c) WOW... Heard rumours that Egypt sent only 1 athlete because 8 were either positive on drugs or they were afraid of the target testing by WADA. They will fail the test. At the IFBB competitions, the EGYPTIAN BODYBUILDERS are treated like the Pharaohs and the IFBB willingly consented to their request at the last Congress in Manama that only one from the top 3 will be tested for dope testing and 1 or 2 athletes will be picked from the 4th - 6th placings. Why? Because the Egyptians are all on drugs and they will surely win the top 3 spots and by testing only one from the top 3, they could escape dope testing and win the Team Championships trophy. Rafael allowed this system to help Egypt. Is this a fair game? You JUDGE.
Now through the folly of Rafael, Maurico and William, they blundered and deprived many other athletes from participating in the World Games. This favouritism game of the IFBB must be checked and the IFBB should be questioned for all these nonsense.
Victor Mendis
Руководители культуризма в Азии требуют РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХУ разъяснить противоречивую политику ИФББ по допингу на Всемирных играх:
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Fw: At least be brave and face us with some answers or give up your seat at IFBB!
To: "GAISF" <info@agfisonline.com>, "WG" <sec@worldgames-iwga.org>, "wada" <emiliano.simonelli@wada-ama.org>, "wada" <marilyn.malenfant@wada-ama.org>, "Wada Info - main office" nfo@agfisonline.com, vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es, "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>
Date: Saturday, 18 July, 2009, 6:53 PM
Dear ABBF Members
This letter is questioning the IFBB's Rafael Santonja for answers by the Vice-President Mr. M. Haleem of the South Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation and the Honorary Life President of the Maldives.
We hope the IFBB can come up with genuine answers.
Paul Chua
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WFF secretary service Wrote:WFF secretary service Wrote:Сегодня мы получили ещё одно письмо от юриста ИФББ с просьбой опубликовать на форуме.
Федерация культуристов Азии поздравляет ИФГФ – организаторов Всемирных игр. Федерация культуристов Азии подчёркивает, что из-за вины РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХИ много стран не имели возможности участвовать в играх, а Малайзия и Китай отказались сами. 8 из 9 спортсменов Египта были отстранены от участия в связи с подозрением на применение ими допинга.
По просьбе представителя ИФББ в Египте на допинг в играх проверят только одного из призёров, что даст возможность многим избежать контроля и наказания.
From: ifbbpro@rocketmail.com <ifbbpro@rocketmail.com>
Subject: NO SHOW UP BY CHINA, MALAYSIA AND 8 EGYPTIANS MISSING???? BREAKING NEWS
To: vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es, abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg
Date: Friday, 17 July, 2009, 6:33 AM
Dear Bodybuilding Enthusiasts
We should support the World Games because it is a sporting organisation assisting non-Olympic sportsmen to gather and participate. We salute IWGF and the Kaohsiung World Organising Committee for doing a great job in hosting the 2009 World Games in Taiwan.
But we strongly detest the IFBB's system in selecting the team of bodybuilders to represent at the Games. It was politics. Second stringers' athletes from India were being fielded to help the "ibbf" unrecognised Indian Team under More and his group affiliated to the IFBB to compete. A SHAM for sure.
The BREAKING NEWS are:
a) MALAYSIA did not send their athlete because they felt insulted when the IFBB tried to cover the Doping incident of Jose from Brazil from the last World Bodybuilding Championships held in Manama, Bahrain; If the IFBB can cheat doping ..what about the results, athletes do not trust them!!!! MALAYSIA support the ABBF 100% and sending a strong team to Pattaya, Thailand for the Asian Championships
b) CHINA also abstained in sending their athletes . No reasons were given but from sources we understand that the IFBB officials are arrogant and unfriendly. Without Paul Chua, the Chinese may be treated by the IFBB badly. Chua was very co-operative and a friendly guy who knows the sensitiveness of the Asian people like the Chinese in particular. His presence would have made a difference. He knows how to socialise and bring the people together.
c) WOW... Heard rumours that Egypt sent only 1 athlete because 8 were either positive on drugs or they were afraid of the target testing by WADA. They will fail the test. At the IFBB competitions, the EGYPTIAN BODYBUILDERS are treated like the Pharaohs and the IFBB willingly consented to their request at the last Congress in Manama that only one from the top 3 will be tested for dope testing and 1 or 2 athletes will be picked from the 4th - 6th placings. Why? Because the Egyptians are all on drugs and they will surely win the top 3 spots and by testing only one from the top 3, they could escape dope testing and win the Team Championships trophy. Rafael allowed this system to help Egypt. Is this a fair game? You JUDGE.
Now through the folly of Rafael, Maurico and William, they blundered and deprived many other athletes from participating in the World Games. This favouritism game of the IFBB must be checked and the IFBB should be questioned for all these nonsense.
Victor Mendis
Руководители культуризма в Азии требуют РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХУ разъяснить противоречивую политику ИФББ по допингу на Всемирных играх:
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Fw: At least be brave and face us with some answers or give up your seat at IFBB!
To: "GAISF" <info@agfisonline.com>, "WG" <sec@worldgames-iwga.org>, "wada" <emiliano.simonelli@wada-ama.org>, "wada" <marilyn.malenfant@wada-ama.org>, "Wada Info - main office" nfo@agfisonline.com, vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es, "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>
Date: Saturday, 18 July, 2009, 6:53 PM
Dear ABBF Members
This letter is questioning the IFBB's Rafael Santonja for answers by the Vice-President Mr. M. Haleem of the South Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation and the Honorary Life President of the Maldives.
We hope the IFBB can come up with genuine answers.
Paul Chua
Secretary-General - ABBF
Руководители культуризма в Азии требуют РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХУ разъяснить противоречивую политику ИФББ по допингу на Всемирных играх:
From: Mohamed Haleem <haleem@gmail.com>
Subject: At least be brave and face us with some answers or give up your seat at IFBB!
To: "Rafael Santonja IFBB President" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>
Date: Saturday, 18 July, 2009, 4:39 PM
Dear Rafeal,
First of all, why is it that you’re not replying to any of my emails? Are you that gutless? At least be brave and face us with some answers or give up your seat at IFBB! Apparently you don’t have what it takes.
It may be that I'm being too blunt but are you or are you not going to suspend EGYPT for pulling out 8 of their 9 participants in the World Games in Kaohsiung. Their withdrawal in the last minute does raise some questions – are they on drugs? Frightened of the target testing maybe?
Is the IFBB bold enough to reprimand those 8 erring athletes or will it just sit still in its cowardliness?
Haleem
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Сегодня для публикации на форуме мы получили письмо от ПОЛА ЧУА из Сингапура. ИФББ запрещает федерациям участвовать в Чемпионате стран Азии, который проводит Федерация культуризма Азии. Чемпионат и федерацию Азии поддерживает Олимпийский комитет Азии, когда в то же время Олимпийский комитет Азии не поддерживает САНТОХУ и ИФББ:
THAILAND EVENT NOT APPROVED, SANCTIONED OR RECOGNIZED BY IFBB
On Sun, 7/19/09, Dr. Eng. Adel Fahim <efbb@tedata.net.eg> wrote:
From: Dr. Eng. Adel Fahim <efbb@tedata.net.eg>
Subject: THAILAND Event Not Approved, Sanctioned or Recognized by IFBB
To: "'sca asian bodybuilding bodybuilding'" <sca-abbf@live.com>, legend01@scs-net.org, "'aliraqi bbf'" <aliraqibbf@yahoo.com>, ali.alsulamy@hotmail.com, sateh_n@yahoo.com, malih@terra.net.lb, abujaffar50@gmail.com, yemenb_federation@yahoo.com, saleh_angel@hotmail.com, bboodai@yahoo..com, luayvip@yahoo.com, ibbf_sanjaymore@live.com, "Afghanistan BB Federation" <zubairullahmohsin@yahoo.com>, smb@cbn.net.id, araslanov58@mail.ru, chelucky@macau.ctm.net, mbbffrancisyong@hotmail.com, priycdc@mptmail.net..mm, nbba@mail.com, "Jeff Schucroft" <jeffschucroft@gmail.com>, ctbbf@ethome.com.tw, autpower@icctm.org, uzb_bodybuildingfitness@yahoo.com, azfbb@azdata.net, pfenix2007@rambler.ru, "'masoom butt'" <masoom_butt@hotmail.com>, nhkim@hwpharm.com, mkymiyao@yahoo.co.jp, gsd@druknet.bt, bbfiran@yahoo.com, bigguy1402@yahoo.com, info@hkbba.org, cbannavong@hotmail.com, bodybuilding@olympic.mn, budes_e@yahoo.com, nocpakistan@gmail.com, limluciano@yahoo.com, "'suresh pai'" <sureshpai57@yahoo.com>, bodybuilding.vgf@vnn.vn, ywlf2002@hotmail.com, toangiacuong@vnn.vn
Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 3:08 AM
Dear President / General Secretary,
Please find attached a letter for your attention.
Sincerely,
William Tierney
IFBB Assistant General Secretary
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WFF secretary service Wrote:Сегодня для публикации на форуме мы получили письмо от ПОЛА ЧУА из Сингапура. ИФББ запрещает федерациям участвовать в Чемпионате стран Азии, который проводит Федерация культуризма Азии. Чемпионат и федерацию Азии поддерживает Олимпийский комитет Азии, когда в то же время Олимпийский комитет Азии не поддерживает САНТОХУ и ИФББ:
THAILAND EVENT NOT APPROVED, SANCTIONED OR RECOGNIZED BY IFBB
On Sun, 7/19/09, Dr. Eng. Adel Fahim <efbb@tedata.net.eg> wrote:
From: Dr. Eng. Adel Fahim <efbb@tedata.net.eg>
Subject: THAILAND Event Not Approved, Sanctioned or Recognized by IFBB
To: "'sca asian bodybuilding bodybuilding'" <sca-abbf@live.com>, legend01@scs-net.org, "'aliraqi bbf'" <aliraqibbf@yahoo.com>, ali.alsulamy@hotmail.com, sateh_n@yahoo.com, malih@terra.net.lb, abujaffar50@gmail.com, yemenb_federation@yahoo.com, saleh_angel@hotmail.com, bboodai@yahoo..com, luayvip@yahoo.com, ibbf_sanjaymore@live.com, "Afghanistan BB Federation" <zubairullahmohsin@yahoo.com>, smb@cbn.net.id, araslanov58@mail.ru, chelucky@macau.ctm.net, mbbffrancisyong@hotmail.com, priycdc@mptmail.net..mm, nbba@mail.com, "Jeff Schucroft" <jeffschucroft@gmail.com>, ctbbf@ethome.com.tw, autpower@icctm.org, uzb_bodybuildingfitness@yahoo.com, azfbb@azdata.net, pfenix2007@rambler.ru, "'masoom butt'" <masoom_butt@hotmail.com>, nhkim@hwpharm.com, mkymiyao@yahoo.co.jp, gsd@druknet.bt, bbfiran@yahoo.com, bigguy1402@yahoo.com, info@hkbba.org, cbannavong@hotmail.com, bodybuilding@olympic.mn, budes_e@yahoo.com, nocpakistan@gmail.com, limluciano@yahoo.com, "'suresh pai'" <sureshpai57@yahoo.com>, bodybuilding.vgf@vnn.vn, ywlf2002@hotmail.com, toangiacuong@vnn.vn
Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 3:08 AM
Dear President / General Secretary,
Please find attached a letter for your attention.
Sincerely,
William Tierney
IFBB Assistant General Secretary
Почти все национальные федерации Азии информировали свои Олимпийские комитеты, что они, как и Олимпийский комитет Азии, поддерживают Федерацию культуризма Азии и в деятельности ИФББ участвовать не будут:
From: zubair Mohsin <zubairullahmohsin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: THAILAND Event Not Approved, Sanctioned or Recognized by IFBB
To: "CHUA PAUL" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Cc: "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>, "hussin UAE alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo..com>, "Amit Swami Amit Swami" <navin_rao2007@yahoo.ca>, "Baba Madhok Baba Madhok" <babamadhok@gmail.com>, "Bob" <amitsabbf@gmail.com>, "Christina Y.Kam Christina Y.Kam" <christina_weider@yahoo.com>, "Simon Chan Simon Chan" <simon@iptfa.com>, "Sir Jeff Sir Jeff" <jeffschucroft@gmail.com>, "Thailand Bodybuilding Association Thailand Bodybuilding Association" <thaibody@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 8:46 PM
Dear Sir,
Please see the attachment and kindly refer to the mail below from IFBB, this e-mail was received by Afghanistan Olympic dept too, but I have informed the Afghanistan Olympic Dept that we are supporting the ABBF and we will not allow anyone to bring disrepute to the established federation of ABBF which was found 50 years ago and it doesn’t seem fair to make the suspension without prior consultation with the members of ABBF, however, I have mentioned to our Olympic Dept that we fully support the leadership of our president Mr. Osama Alshafar and the secretary General Mr. Paul Chua. And we will definitely participate in 43rd Asian Men’s and First Asian Classic bodybuilding Championship in Pattaya Thailand.
Regards
Zubairullah Mohsin
Secretary General/Acting President
Afghanistan Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation (AFBBF)
Chairman of Technical committee (SABBF)
E-mail: zubairullahmohsin@yahoo.com
Zubair_m1@hotmail.com
Cell: +93(0)700261109
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WFF secretary service Wrote:WFF secretary service Wrote:Сегодня для публикации на форуме мы получили письмо от ПОЛА ЧУА из Сингапура. ИФББ запрещает федерациям участвовать в Чемпионате стран Азии, который проводит Федерация культуризма Азии. Чемпионат и федерацию Азии поддерживает Олимпийский комитет Азии, когда в то же время Олимпийский комитет Азии не поддерживает САНТОХУ и ИФББ:
THAILAND EVENT NOT APPROVED, SANCTIONED OR RECOGNIZED BY IFBB
On Sun, 7/19/09, Dr. Eng. Adel Fahim <efbb@tedata.net.eg> wrote:
From: Dr. Eng. Adel Fahim <efbb@tedata.net.eg>
Subject: THAILAND Event Not Approved, Sanctioned or Recognized by IFBB
To: "'sca asian bodybuilding bodybuilding'" <sca-abbf@live.com>, legend01@scs-net.org, "'aliraqi bbf'" <aliraqibbf@yahoo.com>, ali.alsulamy@hotmail.com, sateh_n@yahoo.com, malih@terra.net.lb, abujaffar50@gmail.com, yemenb_federation@yahoo.com, saleh_angel@hotmail.com, bboodai@yahoo..com, luayvip@yahoo.com, ibbf_sanjaymore@live.com, "Afghanistan BB Federation" <zubairullahmohsin@yahoo.com>, smb@cbn.net.id, araslanov58@mail.ru, chelucky@macau.ctm.net, mbbffrancisyong@hotmail.com, priycdc@mptmail.net..mm, nbba@mail.com, "Jeff Schucroft" <jeffschucroft@gmail.com>, ctbbf@ethome.com.tw, autpower@icctm.org, uzb_bodybuildingfitness@yahoo.com, azfbb@azdata.net, pfenix2007@rambler.ru, "'masoom butt'" <masoom_butt@hotmail.com>, nhkim@hwpharm.com, mkymiyao@yahoo.co.jp, gsd@druknet.bt, bbfiran@yahoo.com, bigguy1402@yahoo.com, info@hkbba.org, cbannavong@hotmail.com, bodybuilding@olympic.mn, budes_e@yahoo.com, nocpakistan@gmail.com, limluciano@yahoo.com, "'suresh pai'" <sureshpai57@yahoo.com>, bodybuilding.vgf@vnn.vn, ywlf2002@hotmail.com, toangiacuong@vnn.vn
Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 3:08 AM
Dear President / General Secretary,
Please find attached a letter for your attention.
Sincerely,
William Tierney
IFBB Assistant General Secretary
Почти все национальные федерации Азии информировали свои Олимпийские комитеты, что они, как и Олимпийский комитет Азии, поддерживают Федерацию культуризма Азии и в деятельности ИФББ участвовать не будут:
From: zubair Mohsin <zubairullahmohsin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: THAILAND Event Not Approved, Sanctioned or Recognized by IFBB
To: "CHUA PAUL" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Cc: "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>, "hussin UAE alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo..com>, "Amit Swami Amit Swami" <navin_rao2007@yahoo.ca>, "Baba Madhok Baba Madhok" <babamadhok@gmail.com>, "Bob" <amitsabbf@gmail.com>, "Christina Y.Kam Christina Y.Kam" <christina_weider@yahoo.com>, "Simon Chan Simon Chan" <simon@iptfa.com>, "Sir Jeff Sir Jeff" <jeffschucroft@gmail.com>, "Thailand Bodybuilding Association Thailand Bodybuilding Association" <thaibody@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 8:46 PM
Dear Sir,
Please see the attachment and kindly refer to the mail below from IFBB, this e-mail was received by Afghanistan Olympic dept too, but I have informed the Afghanistan Olympic Dept that we are supporting the ABBF and we will not allow anyone to bring disrepute to the established federation of ABBF which was found 50 years ago and it doesn’t seem fair to make the suspension without prior consultation with the members of ABBF, however, I have mentioned to our Olympic Dept that we fully support the leadership of our president Mr. Osama Alshafar and the secretary General Mr. Paul Chua. And we will definitely participate in 43rd Asian Men’s and First Asian Classic bodybuilding Championship in Pattaya Thailand.
Regards
Zubairullah Mohsin
Secretary General/Acting President
Afghanistan Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation (AFBBF)
Chairman of Technical committee (SABBF)
E-mail: zubairullahmohsin@yahoo.com
Zubair_m1@hotmail.com
Cell: +93(0)700261109
P-O-BOX-NO-2037-KABUL AFGHANISTAN
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: THAILAND Event Is recolgnized by the OCA and the Thailand Olympic Committee
To: "Afghan 2" <zubairullahmohsin@yahoo.com>, "Afghan 3" <zubair_m1@hotmail.com>
Cc: "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 9:24 PM
Dear Mr. Mohsin
You reply to your Olympic is correct. We will be circulating your letter to all National Federations in Asia to inform their Olympic Committees that we are recognised by the Olympic Council of Asia and that the IFBB has no control over our competition, and this threat is a last minute desperate effort by the IFBB.
As a continental federation we do not require the sanction of the IFBB, we are supported by 33 Asian Countries. All ASEAN countries are participating because they were insulted by the propaganda of the IFBB.
The IFBB is bogus and they do not exist in Spain and they simply send out letters to the National Olympic Committees and dictate terms and threaten the National Bodybuilding Federations in Asia which are affiliated to the ABBF.
Many Asian countries requested for the Statement of Accounts from the IFBB for the years 2006, 2007 and 2008 and they are not addressing this serious matter instead they send circulars to threaten the National Federations in Asia.
In Asia we now have 33 countries participating in the Asian Bodybuilding Championships which is being held in Pattaya, Thailand from 11 - 17 August, 2009 and this competition is supported by the Thailand Olympic Committee and by the Mayor of Pattaya.
We repeat once again that our competitions are recognised by the OLYMPIC COUNCIL OF ASIA and the IFBB has no jurisdiction over this matter, they are simply trying to create confusion amongst Asians.
They are organising a parallel group and organising a competition in Aurangabad, India from 24 -27, 2009 and the OCA informed them that they will not recognise this dissident group supported by the IFBB.
Thank you
Paul Chua
Secretary-General
PS. ALL ABBF MEMBERS MAY PRODUCE THIS EMAIL TO YOUR OLYMPIC COMMITTE AND IF THEY REQUIRE ANY DOCUMENTS ABOUT THE BOGUS IFBB, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THEM.
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WFF secretary service Wrote:WFF secretary service Wrote:WFF secretary service Wrote:Сегодня для публикации на форуме мы получили письмо от ПОЛА ЧУА из Сингапура. ИФББ запрещает федерациям участвовать в Чемпионате стран Азии, который проводит Федерация культуризма Азии. Чемпионат и федерацию Азии поддерживает Олимпийский комитет Азии, когда в то же время Олимпийский комитет Азии не поддерживает САНТОХУ и ИФББ:
THAILAND EVENT NOT APPROVED, SANCTIONED OR RECOGNIZED BY IFBB
On Sun, 7/19/09, Dr. Eng. Adel Fahim <efbb@tedata.net.eg> wrote:
From: Dr. Eng. Adel Fahim <efbb@tedata.net.eg>
Subject: THAILAND Event Not Approved, Sanctioned or Recognized by IFBB
To: "'sca asian bodybuilding bodybuilding'" <sca-abbf@live.com>, legend01@scs-net.org, "'aliraqi bbf'" <aliraqibbf@yahoo.com>, ali.alsulamy@hotmail.com, sateh_n@yahoo.com, malih@terra.net.lb, abujaffar50@gmail.com, yemenb_federation@yahoo.com, saleh_angel@hotmail.com, bboodai@yahoo..com, luayvip@yahoo.com, ibbf_sanjaymore@live.com, "Afghanistan BB Federation" <zubairullahmohsin@yahoo.com>, smb@cbn.net.id, araslanov58@mail.ru, chelucky@macau.ctm.net, mbbffrancisyong@hotmail.com, priycdc@mptmail.net..mm, nbba@mail.com, "Jeff Schucroft" <jeffschucroft@gmail.com>, ctbbf@ethome.com.tw, autpower@icctm.org, uzb_bodybuildingfitness@yahoo.com, azfbb@azdata.net, pfenix2007@rambler.ru, "'masoom butt'" <masoom_butt@hotmail.com>, nhkim@hwpharm.com, mkymiyao@yahoo.co.jp, gsd@druknet.bt, bbfiran@yahoo.com, bigguy1402@yahoo.com, info@hkbba.org, cbannavong@hotmail.com, bodybuilding@olympic.mn, budes_e@yahoo.com, nocpakistan@gmail.com, limluciano@yahoo.com, "'suresh pai'" <sureshpai57@yahoo.com>, bodybuilding.vgf@vnn.vn, ywlf2002@hotmail.com, toangiacuong@vnn.vn
Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 3:08 AM
Dear President / General Secretary,
Please find attached a letter for your attention.
Sincerely,
William Tierney
IFBB Assistant General Secretary
Почти все национальные федерации Азии информировали свои Олимпийские комитеты, что они, как и Олимпийский комитет Азии, поддерживают Федерацию культуризма Азии и в деятельности ИФББ участвовать не будут:
From: zubair Mohsin <zubairullahmohsin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: THAILAND Event Not Approved, Sanctioned or Recognized by IFBB
To: "CHUA PAUL" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Cc: "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>, "hussin UAE alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo..com>, "Amit Swami Amit Swami" <navin_rao2007@yahoo.ca>, "Baba Madhok Baba Madhok" <babamadhok@gmail.com>, "Bob" <amitsabbf@gmail.com>, "Christina Y.Kam Christina Y.Kam" <christina_weider@yahoo.com>, "Simon Chan Simon Chan" <simon@iptfa.com>, "Sir Jeff Sir Jeff" <jeffschucroft@gmail.com>, "Thailand Bodybuilding Association Thailand Bodybuilding Association" <thaibody@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 8:46 PM
Dear Sir,
Please see the attachment and kindly refer to the mail below from IFBB, this e-mail was received by Afghanistan Olympic dept too, but I have informed the Afghanistan Olympic Dept that we are supporting the ABBF and we will not allow anyone to bring disrepute to the established federation of ABBF which was found 50 years ago and it doesn’t seem fair to make the suspension without prior consultation with the members of ABBF, however, I have mentioned to our Olympic Dept that we fully support the leadership of our president Mr. Osama Alshafar and the secretary General Mr. Paul Chua. And we will definitely participate in 43rd Asian Men’s and First Asian Classic bodybuilding Championship in Pattaya Thailand.
Regards
Zubairullah Mohsin
Secretary General/Acting President
Afghanistan Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation (AFBBF)
Chairman of Technical committee (SABBF)
E-mail: zubairullahmohsin@yahoo.com
Zubair_m1@hotmail.com
Cell: +93(0)700261109
P-O-BOX-NO-2037-KABUL AFGHANISTAN
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: THAILAND Event Is recolgnized by the OCA and the Thailand Olympic Committee
To: "Afghan 2" <zubairullahmohsin@yahoo.com>, "Afghan 3" <zubair_m1@hotmail.com>
Cc: "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 9:24 PM
Dear Mr. Mohsin
You reply to your Olympic is correct. We will be circulating your letter to all National Federations in Asia to inform their Olympic Committees that we are recognised by the Olympic Council of Asia and that the IFBB has no control over our competition, and this threat is a last minute desperate effort by the IFBB.
As a continental federation we do not require the sanction of the IFBB, we are supported by 33 Asian Countries. All ASEAN countries are participating because they were insulted by the propaganda of the IFBB.
The IFBB is bogus and they do not exist in Spain and they simply send out letters to the National Olympic Committees and dictate terms and threaten the National Bodybuilding Federations in Asia which are affiliated to the ABBF.
Many Asian countries requested for the Statement of Accounts from the IFBB for the years 2006, 2007 and 2008 and they are not addressing this serious matter instead they send circulars to threaten the National Federations in Asia.
In Asia we now have 33 countries participating in the Asian Bodybuilding Championships which is being held in Pattaya, Thailand from 11 - 17 August, 2009 and this competition is supported by the Thailand Olympic Committee and by the Mayor of Pattaya.
We repeat once again that our competitions are recognised by the OLYMPIC COUNCIL OF ASIA and the IFBB has no jurisdiction over this matter, they are simply trying to create confusion amongst Asians.
They are organising a parallel group and organising a competition in Aurangabad, India from 24 -27, 2009 and the OCA informed them that they will not recognise this dissident group supported by the IFBB.
Thank you
Paul Chua
Secretary-General
PS. ALL ABBF MEMBERS MAY PRODUCE THIS EMAIL TO YOUR OLYMPIC COMMITTE AND IF THEY REQUIRE ANY DOCUMENTS ABOUT THE BOGUS IFBB, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THEM.
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Fw: THAILAND Event Is recolgnized by the OCA and the Thailand Olympic Committee
To: vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es
Date: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 9:41 PM
WE CHALLENGE THE IFBB TO EXPEL OR SUSPEND ALL THE 33 NATIONS IN ASIA SINCE THEY HAVE INDICATED IN THEIR LETTER WITH THREATS TO ALL OF ASIA.
THE IFBB CANNOT THREATEN ASIANS AND RULE BY THE SWORD, OUR PRIDE CANNOT BE TAKEN AWAY BY THE BOGUS RULES OF THE IFBB AND ARTICLE 20.1 WHICH GIVES THE ABSOLUTE POWER TO THE PRESIDENT.
PAUL CHUA
SECRETARY-GENERAL - ABBF
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WFF secretary service Wrote:WFF secretary service Wrote:WFF secretary service Wrote:WFF secretary service Wrote:Сегодня для публикации на форуме мы получили письмо от ПОЛА ЧУА из Сингапура. ИФББ запрещает федерациям участвовать в Чемпионате стран Азии, который проводит Федерация культуризма Азии. Чемпионат и федерацию Азии поддерживает Олимпийский комитет Азии, когда в то же время Олимпийский комитет Азии не поддерживает САНТОХУ и ИФББ:
THAILAND EVENT NOT APPROVED, SANCTIONED OR RECOGNIZED BY IFBB
On Sun, 7/19/09, Dr. Eng. Adel Fahim <efbb@tedata.net.eg> wrote:
From: Dr. Eng. Adel Fahim <efbb@tedata.net.eg>
Subject: THAILAND Event Not Approved, Sanctioned or Recognized by IFBB
To: "'sca asian bodybuilding bodybuilding'" <sca-abbf@live.com>, legend01@scs-net.org, "'aliraqi bbf'" <aliraqibbf@yahoo.com>, ali.alsulamy@hotmail.com, sateh_n@yahoo.com, malih@terra.net.lb, abujaffar50@gmail.com, yemenb_federation@yahoo.com, saleh_angel@hotmail.com, bboodai@yahoo..com, luayvip@yahoo.com, ibbf_sanjaymore@live.com, "Afghanistan BB Federation" <zubairullahmohsin@yahoo.com>, smb@cbn.net.id, araslanov58@mail.ru, chelucky@macau.ctm.net, mbbffrancisyong@hotmail.com, priycdc@mptmail.net..mm, nbba@mail.com, "Jeff Schucroft" <jeffschucroft@gmail.com>, ctbbf@ethome.com.tw, autpower@icctm.org, uzb_bodybuildingfitness@yahoo.com, azfbb@azdata.net, pfenix2007@rambler.ru, "'masoom butt'" <masoom_butt@hotmail.com>, nhkim@hwpharm.com, mkymiyao@yahoo.co.jp, gsd@druknet.bt, bbfiran@yahoo.com, bigguy1402@yahoo.com, info@hkbba.org, cbannavong@hotmail.com, bodybuilding@olympic.mn, budes_e@yahoo.com, nocpakistan@gmail.com, limluciano@yahoo.com, "'suresh pai'" <sureshpai57@yahoo.com>, bodybuilding.vgf@vnn.vn, ywlf2002@hotmail.com, toangiacuong@vnn.vn
Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 3:08 AM
Dear President / General Secretary,
Please find attached a letter for your attention.
Sincerely,
William Tierney
IFBB Assistant General Secretary
Почти все национальные федерации Азии информировали свои Олимпийские комитеты, что они, как и Олимпийский комитет Азии, поддерживают Федерацию культуризма Азии и в деятельности ИФББ участвовать не будут:
From: zubair Mohsin <zubairullahmohsin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: THAILAND Event Not Approved, Sanctioned or Recognized by IFBB
To: "CHUA PAUL" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Cc: "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>, "hussin UAE alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo..com>, "Amit Swami Amit Swami" <navin_rao2007@yahoo.ca>, "Baba Madhok Baba Madhok" <babamadhok@gmail.com>, "Bob" <amitsabbf@gmail.com>, "Christina Y.Kam Christina Y.Kam" <christina_weider@yahoo.com>, "Simon Chan Simon Chan" <simon@iptfa.com>, "Sir Jeff Sir Jeff" <jeffschucroft@gmail.com>, "Thailand Bodybuilding Association Thailand Bodybuilding Association" <thaibody@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 8:46 PM
Dear Sir,
Please see the attachment and kindly refer to the mail below from IFBB, this e-mail was received by Afghanistan Olympic dept too, but I have informed the Afghanistan Olympic Dept that we are supporting the ABBF and we will not allow anyone to bring disrepute to the established federation of ABBF which was found 50 years ago and it doesn’t seem fair to make the suspension without prior consultation with the members of ABBF, however, I have mentioned to our Olympic Dept that we fully support the leadership of our president Mr. Osama Alshafar and the secretary General Mr. Paul Chua. And we will definitely participate in 43rd Asian Men’s and First Asian Classic bodybuilding Championship in Pattaya Thailand.
Regards
Zubairullah Mohsin
Secretary General/Acting President
Afghanistan Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation (AFBBF)
Chairman of Technical committee (SABBF)
E-mail: zubairullahmohsin@yahoo.com
Zubair_m1@hotmail.com
Cell: +93(0)700261109
P-O-BOX-NO-2037-KABUL AFGHANISTAN
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: THAILAND Event Is recolgnized by the OCA and the Thailand Olympic Committee
To: "Afghan 2" <zubairullahmohsin@yahoo.com>, "Afghan 3" <zubair_m1@hotmail.com>
Cc: "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 9:24 PM
Dear Mr. Mohsin
You reply to your Olympic is correct. We will be circulating your letter to all National Federations in Asia to inform their Olympic Committees that we are recognised by the Olympic Council of Asia and that the IFBB has no control over our competition, and this threat is a last minute desperate effort by the IFBB.
As a continental federation we do not require the sanction of the IFBB, we are supported by 33 Asian Countries. All ASEAN countries are participating because they were insulted by the propaganda of the IFBB.
The IFBB is bogus and they do not exist in Spain and they simply send out letters to the National Olympic Committees and dictate terms and threaten the National Bodybuilding Federations in Asia which are affiliated to the ABBF.
Many Asian countries requested for the Statement of Accounts from the IFBB for the years 2006, 2007 and 2008 and they are not addressing this serious matter instead they send circulars to threaten the National Federations in Asia.
In Asia we now have 33 countries participating in the Asian Bodybuilding Championships which is being held in Pattaya, Thailand from 11 - 17 August, 2009 and this competition is supported by the Thailand Olympic Committee and by the Mayor of Pattaya.
We repeat once again that our competitions are recognised by the OLYMPIC COUNCIL OF ASIA and the IFBB has no jurisdiction over this matter, they are simply trying to create confusion amongst Asians.
They are organising a parallel group and organising a competition in Aurangabad, India from 24 -27, 2009 and the OCA informed them that they will not recognise this dissident group supported by the IFBB.
Thank you
Paul Chua
Secretary-General
PS. ALL ABBF MEMBERS MAY PRODUCE THIS EMAIL TO YOUR OLYMPIC COMMITTE AND IF THEY REQUIRE ANY DOCUMENTS ABOUT THE BOGUS IFBB, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THEM.
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Fw: THAILAND Event Is recolgnized by the OCA and the Thailand Olympic Committee
To: vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es
Date: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 9:41 PM
WE CHALLENGE THE IFBB TO EXPEL OR SUSPEND ALL THE 33 NATIONS IN ASIA SINCE THEY HAVE INDICATED IN THEIR LETTER WITH THREATS TO ALL OF ASIA.
THE IFBB CANNOT THREATEN ASIANS AND RULE BY THE SWORD, OUR PRIDE CANNOT BE TAKEN AWAY BY THE BOGUS RULES OF THE IFBB AND ARTICLE 20.1 WHICH GIVES THE ABSOLUTE POWER TO THE PRESIDENT.
PAUL CHUA
SECRETARY-GENERAL - ABBF
Subject: Bodybuilding
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:38:58 +0300
From: Husain@OCASIA.ORG
To: info@ifbb.com
CC: nolvenn.dufay@sportaccord.com
Dr. Rafael Santonja
President, IFBB
e-mail: info@ifbb.com
Dear Dr. Santonja
I would like to refer to the various communications the OCA has been receiving with regard to the sport of bodybuilding in Asia. As far as OCA is concerned the OCA recognizes the Asian Bodybuilding Federation of which Mr. Osama Ahmed Al-Shafar is the President and Mr. Paul Chua is the Secretary General, as they were officially and duly elected by the Asian Bodybuilding Federation General Assembly consisting of the National Bodybuilding Federations from Asia. Any change should be done through the General Assembly. The OCA will accept the technical delegate only nominated by the Asian Bodybuilding Federations for the bodybuilding competitions during the Asian Beach Games. Please rest a sure of OCA for full support of the Bodybuilding in the Asian Games ,
Looking Forward to meet with you ASAP to clear any misunderstanding.
With My Best Regards,
Husain Al-Musallam
Director General & Technical Director
P.O.Box 6706
Hawalli 32042 Kuwait
Tel. + 965 - 25717196
Fax + 965 - 25734973
http://www.ocasia.org
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Вот ещё недавно полученное письмо. Кому нужны доказательства о махинациях ИФББ со спортивными деньгами и допингом, обманом ВАДА, обращайтесь в Олимпийский комитет Азии и Федерацию культуризма Азии:
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Fw: THAILAND Event Is recolgnized by the OCA and the Thailand Olympic Committee
To: "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, 19 July, 2009, 10:07 PM
Dear ABBF Members
Further to our circular letters, the IFBB is saying that they are members of WADA but they violated the WADA rules and if your Olympic Committee or any Government Agency require proof, we will be pleased to provide this information to you.
You may also show this email from the OCA to your National Olympic Committee. We feel that William Tierney and Rafael Santonja are living in slumber land.
Regards,
Paul Chua
Secretary-General - ABBF
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Сегодня мы получили обращение главного юриста ИФББ из Австрии с просьбой опубликовать его на форуме:
ИФББ ВОНЯЕТ
Президент ИФББ Рафаэль Сантоха – могильщик культуризма
Дорогие коллеги по спорту,
Ответьте, как далеко продвинулся спорт за 2,5 года правления Рафаэля Сантохи?
Испанец сумел разрушить всё, что строилось десятилетиями.
- ИФББ как спортивная федерация существует только в виртуальном мире
- за кулисами процветают финансовые аферы
- Не ведётся финансовый учёт
- одурачиваются все члены псевдо федерации
- желающим нет возможности высказаться
- официальная федерация культуризма Азии выкинута Сантохой даже не выслушав
- Федерация Австрии разбита и судится с Сантохой в суде
- много заслуженных спорту лиц единолично Сантохой отстранены от деятельности
- никто не отчитывается за финансовую деятельность
- коррумпирована и не регистрирована (значит юридически не существующая) конституция (устав) ИФББ
- двойные стандарты по допингу (нет доп. контроля на «Элит», «Арнольд классик» турнирах, всех соревнованиях ветеранов, вообще не ведётся доп. контроль не во время соревнований, пробы на допинг не регистрируются в установленном порядке, наказанные за допинг спортсмены легко избегают реального наказания и опять участвуют на соревнованиях, постоянные грязные манипуляции с доп. контролем и его результатами).
- спортивные деньги идут на частные счета Сантохи. Где отчёты за финансы последних лет?
Обо всём этом молчит вся тройка: Сантоха, Памела и Тэрни, но одурачивание спортсменов скоро закончится.
From: Ifbb Professional <ifbbpro@rocketmail.com>
Subject: IFBB STINKS
To: vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es
Cc: abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg
Date: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 8:33 AM
to all EBFF members.
Sir circulate this to your associates in Asia.
thanks.
IFBB President Dr. Rafael Santonja - the grave-digger of Bodybuilding
Dear colleagues and friends of a clean sport,
How far have we come with the sport of bodybuilding and Fitness under the leadership of Dr. Rafael Santonja ? It took this boastful spanish bluffer only about 2 ½ years to shatter into pieces an organization that was built up by his predecessor in over 60 years of hard work:
• Virtual IFBB with only a sham existance
• Monkey business behind the curtain
• No transparency in financial management
• Holding “kangaroo courts” against members
• Hounding down members who dare to ask questions
• ABFF unlawfully suspended without hearing
• Paul Chua unlawfully suspended without hearing
• Axel Bauer unlawfully suspended without hearing
• Amir Bayat unlawfully suspended without hearing
• Simon Chan unlawfully suspended without hearing
• Hussain Al Saffar unlawfully suspended without hearing
• Mohammed Abdulrahim Abdulla unlawfully suspended without hearing
• Austrian Federation unlawfully suspended and replaced by yes-men
• Austrian Federation prosecuting Santonja in the spanish court for lack of information and transparency
• Legal advisor Loh Lin Kok deleted from the stationary without reason
• No transparency on financial affairs
• No transparency on assets and liabilities
• No transpareny who receives money for working with the IFBB/EBFF and from whom
• No audited accounts
• Grotesque misuse of powers by the president
• Secret meetings without minutes
• Virtual minutes without real meetings
• Bogus and corrupt constitution (no clear separation of powers, no minority rights of members, no effective financial control, bogus disciplinary system)
• Double standards in anti-doping policy (no anti-doping controls at elite contests, no anti-doping tests at arnold classic, no anti-doping controls for masters, no out of competition controls, no registered testing pool, suspended athlets competing again without reinstatment testing, discarding of urine samples - but grotesque misuse of powers when it comes to quash decisions for political reasons or apply alleged doping issues to bring people to their knees)
• Bad-mouthing behind the back;
Now after the European Championships 2009 are over who has received the money from the registration fees ?
How was the money shared ?
European Federations received receipts for their payments from IFBB – was the money channelled to this virtual entity or to AFIFF or did it go to the pockets of private individuals ?
Where are the tax declarations ?
Who can answer theses questions ?
Santonja silent, no answer
Tierney silent, no answer (is a puppet anyway)
Kagan silent (hiding in canada)
IFBB – clownery will be over soon !!!
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From: Sanjay More <ibbf_sanjaymore@live.com>
Subject:
To: "ABBF Office Qatar" <sca-abbf@live.com>, "Afghanistan" <hedayat313@hotmail.com>, "Afghanistan" <hotak.bawar@yahoo..com>, "Bharain" <tariqbbh@yahoo.com>, "Bhutan" <gsd@druknet.bt>, "Cambodia" <r_samboefeo@hotmail.com>, "China" <cbba-cn@sohu.com>, "Dr Rafel Santonja" <internacional@santonja.com>, "Dr.Eng.Adel Fahim" <efbb@tedata.net.eg>, "Hong Kong" <info@hkbba.org>, "Indonesia" <bigguy1402@yahoo.com>, "Indonesia" <smb@cbn.net.id>, "Iran" <bbfiran@yahoo.com>, "Iran" <iriranbbf@yahoo.com>, "Iraqi" <iraqibbf@yahoo.com>, "Korea Bodybuilding Federation" <bodybuilding@sports.or.kr>, "KSA" <katem_a@hotmail.com>, "Lao" <cbannavong@hotmail.com>, "Lebanon" <sateh_n@yahoo.com>, "Macau" <chelucky@macau.ctm.net>, "Malaysia" <mbbffrancisyong@hotmail.com>, "Mangolia" <budes_e@yahoo.com>, "mauricio arruda" <mauricio@santonja.com>, "Myanmar" <ycdc@mptmail.net.com>, "Nepal BB President - Rajesh Shreshta" <rajesh@chitawoncoe.com>, "Nepal" <nbba@mail..com>, "Oman" <info@sportsoman.com>, "Pakistan" <nocpakistan@gmail.com>, "Palestine" <abujaffar@gmail.com>, "Philippines" <limluciano@yahoo.com>, "Shreshta Nepal" <rajan.shrestha@ntc.net.np>, "Singapore" <joe_diversg@yahoo.com>, "Sri Lanka President Mr. Jeff" <jeffschucroft@gmail.com>, "Suresh Pai" <sureshpai57@yahoo.com>, "UAE" <bodybuld@emirates.net.ae>, "Uzbekistan Bodybuilding Assn." <uzb_bodybuildingfitness@yahoo.com>, "Vietnam" <bodybuilding.vgf@vnn..vn>, "Vietnam" <toangiacuong@vnn.vn>, "William Tierney" <w.tierney2@ukonline.co.uk>, "Yemen" <ywlf2002@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 4:28 PM
Dear Friends,
We are pleased to inform you that we are ready with all the preparations regarding contest, accomodation & travelling. Along with this for your convience we are sending you attactment consisting flight arriving and departuring from Mumbai - Aurangabad - Mumbai and Delhi - Aurangabad - Delhi.
Please mail us with your confirmation of arriving and departuring flights as to make your stay at Aurangabad comfortable.
Excepting to do the needful to avoid your inconvience.
Hope to see you soon in Aurangabad
Thanks & Regards,
SANJAY C.MORE
HON.GENERAL SECRETARY
Indian Body Building & Fitness Federation
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Subject:
To: "ABBF Office Qatar" <sca-abbf@live.com>, "Afghanistan" <hedayat313@hotmail.com>, "Afghanistan" <hotak.bawar@yahoo..com>, "Bharain" <tariqbbh@yahoo.com>, "Bhutan" <gsd@druknet.bt>, "Cambodia" <r_samboefeo@hotmail.com>, "China" <cbba-cn@sohu.com>, "Dr Rafel Santonja" <internacional@santonja.com>, "Dr.Eng.Adel Fahim" <efbb@tedata.net.eg>, "Hong Kong" <info@hkbba.org>, "Indonesia" <bigguy1402@yahoo.com>, "Indonesia" <smb@cbn.net.id>, "Iran" <bbfiran@yahoo.com>, "Iran" <iriranbbf@yahoo.com>, "Iraqi" <iraqibbf@yahoo.com>, "Korea Bodybuilding Federation" <bodybuilding@sports.or.kr>, "KSA" <katem_a@hotmail.com>, "Lao" <cbannavong@hotmail.com>, "Lebanon" <sateh_n@yahoo.com>, "Macau" <chelucky@macau.ctm.net>, "Malaysia" <mbbffrancisyong@hotmail.com>, "Mangolia" <budes_e@yahoo.com>, "mauricio arruda" <mauricio@santonja.com>, "Myanmar" <ycdc@mptmail.net.com>, "Nepal BB President - Rajesh Shreshta" <rajesh@chitawoncoe.com>, "Nepal" <nbba@mail..com>, "Oman" <info@sportsoman.com>, "Pakistan" <nocpakistan@gmail.com>, "Palestine" <abujaffar@gmail.com>, "Philippines" <limluciano@yahoo.com>, "Shreshta Nepal" <rajan.shrestha@ntc.net.np>, "Singapore" <joe_diversg@yahoo.com>, "Sri Lanka President Mr. Jeff" <jeffschucroft@gmail.com>, "Suresh Pai" <sureshpai57@yahoo.com>, "UAE" <bodybuld@emirates.net.ae>, "Uzbekistan Bodybuilding Assn." <uzb_bodybuildingfitness@yahoo.com>, "Vietnam" <bodybuilding.vgf@vnn..vn>, "Vietnam" <toangiacuong@vnn.vn>, "William Tierney" <w.tierney2@ukonline.co.uk>, "Yemen" <ywlf2002@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 4:28 PM
Dear Friends,
We are pleased to inform you that we are ready with all the preparations regarding contest, accomodation & travelling. Along with this for your convience we are sending you attactment consisting flight arriving and departuring from Mumbai - Aurangabad - Mumbai and Delhi - Aurangabad - Delhi.
Please mail us with your confirmation of arriving and departuring flights as to make your stay at Aurangabad comfortable.
Excepting to do the needful to avoid your inconvience.
Hope to see you soon in Aurangabad
Thanks & Regards,
SANJAY C.MORE
HON.GENERAL SECRETARY
Indian Body Building & Fitness Federation
После недавнего провала ИФББ организовать чемпионат мира в Арабских Эмиратах и Катаре, страны Азии считают чемпионат мира ИФББ в Индии нелегальным. Вот письмо в Индию из Ирана:
From: I.R.IRAN Federation <iriranbbf@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: your unsound behavior
To: "Sanjay More" <ibbf_sanjaymore@live.com>
Cc: "CHUA PAUL" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Wednesday, 15 July, 2009, 4:32 PM
Dear Mr Sanjay,
We received your Invitation through email .I think , a person who is from Indian . this extensive laying out country with rational elites can not do some thing like that.
I think it is better to remind you :
1-The charter of OCA should be studied exactly and every one should follow up the rules.
2-Federations rely on their regulations according to the justice and enforcement .
3- When one member of federation commits offence is it rational to accuse the rest of members?
4-unilateral suspension without study of an unclear evidence is an injustice action.
5-Suspension of Asian federation without attendance of its members is impoliteness toward national federations and members from different countries.
6-If an offence is committed, why is unveiled up to now ?and why they now talk about that?
7-You know if an offence is committed, therefore all the sponsors of that time are responsible for that.
8-Encouraging divergence and duality among federations is the behavior of seditious ,and it will damage the athletes and sport of bodybuilding.
9-In ancient countries of Asia and India ,the accused community task is to defend its rights directly.
10-No hearing or commission out of founders of assembly ,which is not confirmed by members is null and void.
11-If your competition is to be held under the constitution of Asian federation .I should say your competition is null and void .because you believe ABBF is not legal.
12-These unsound behaviors is impoliteness towards federations .
Finally the Almighty God may protect us as virtuous followers and mundane issues not deviate us.
Best Regards,
Naser Pourali Fard
President of Ir.Iran.B.B.F
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From: Sanjay More <ibbf_sanjaymore@live.com>
Subject:
To: "ABBF Office Qatar" <sca-abbf@live.com>, "Afghanistan" <hedayat313@hotmail.com>, "Afghanistan" <hotak.bawar@yahoo..com>, "Bharain" <tariqbbh@yahoo.com>, "Bhutan" <gsd@druknet.bt>, "Cambodia" <r_samboefeo@hotmail.com>, "China" <cbba-cn@sohu.com>, "Dr Rafel Santonja" <internacional@santonja.com>, "Dr.Eng.Adel Fahim" <efbb@tedata.net.eg>, "Hong Kong" <info@hkbba.org>, "Indonesia" <bigguy1402@yahoo.com>, "Indonesia" <smb@cbn.net.id>, "Iran" <bbfiran@yahoo.com>, "Iran" <iriranbbf@yahoo.com>, "Iraqi" <iraqibbf@yahoo.com>, "Korea Bodybuilding Federation" <bodybuilding@sports.or.kr>, "KSA" <katem_a@hotmail.com>, "Lao" <cbannavong@hotmail.com>, "Lebanon" <sateh_n@yahoo.com>, "Macau" <chelucky@macau.ctm.net>, "Malaysia" <mbbffrancisyong@hotmail.com>, "Mangolia" <budes_e@yahoo.com>, "mauricio arruda" <mauricio@santonja.com>, "Myanmar" <ycdc@mptmail.net.com>, "Nepal BB President - Rajesh Shreshta" <rajesh@chitawoncoe.com>, "Nepal" <nbba@mail..com>, "Oman" <info@sportsoman.com>, "Pakistan" <nocpakistan@gmail.com>, "Palestine" <abujaffar@gmail.com>, "Philippines" <limluciano@yahoo.com>, "Shreshta Nepal" <rajan.shrestha@ntc.net.np>, "Singapore" <joe_diversg@yahoo.com>, "Sri Lanka President Mr. Jeff" <jeffschucroft@gmail.com>, "Suresh Pai" <sureshpai57@yahoo.com>, "UAE" <bodybuld@emirates.net.ae>, "Uzbekistan Bodybuilding Assn." <uzb_bodybuildingfitness@yahoo.com>, "Vietnam" <bodybuilding.vgf@vnn..vn>, "Vietnam" <toangiacuong@vnn.vn>, "William Tierney" <w.tierney2@ukonline.co.uk>, "Yemen" <ywlf2002@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 4:28 PM
Dear Friends,
We are pleased to inform you that we are ready with all the preparations regarding contest, accomodation & travelling. Along with this for your convience we are sending you attactment consisting flight arriving and departuring from Mumbai - Aurangabad - Mumbai and Delhi - Aurangabad - Delhi.
Please mail us with your confirmation of arriving and departuring flights as to make your stay at Aurangabad comfortable.
Excepting to do the needful to avoid your inconvience.
Hope to see you soon in Aurangabad
Thanks & Regards,
SANJAY C.MORE
HON.GENERAL SECRETARY
Indian Body Building & Fitness Federation
После недавнего провала ИФББ организовать чемпионат мира в Арабских Эмиратах и Катаре, страны Азии считают чемпионат мира ИФББ в Индии нелегальным. Вот письмо в Индию из Ирана:
From: I.R.IRAN Federation <iriranbbf@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: your unsound behavior
To: "Sanjay More" <ibbf_sanjaymore@live.com>
Cc: "CHUA PAUL" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Wednesday, 15 July, 2009, 4:32 PM
Dear Mr Sanjay,
We received your Invitation through email .I think , a person who is from Indian . this extensive laying out country with rational elites can not do some thing like that.
I think it is better to remind you :
1-The charter of OCA should be studied exactly and every one should follow up the rules.
2-Federations rely on their regulations according to the justice and enforcement .
3- When one member of federation commits offence is it rational to accuse the rest of members?
4-unilateral suspension without study of an unclear evidence is an injustice action.
5-Suspension of Asian federation without attendance of its members is impoliteness toward national federations and members from different countries.
6-If an offence is committed, why is unveiled up to now ?and why they now talk about that?
7-You know if an offence is committed, therefore all the sponsors of that time are responsible for that.
8-Encouraging divergence and duality among federations is the behavior of seditious ,and it will damage the athletes and sport of bodybuilding.
9-In ancient countries of Asia and India ,the accused community task is to defend its rights directly.
10-No hearing or commission out of founders of assembly ,which is not confirmed by members is null and void.
11-If your competition is to be held under the constitution of Asian federation .I should say your competition is null and void .because you believe ABBF is not legal.
12-These unsound behaviors is impoliteness towards federations .
Finally the Almighty God may protect us as virtuous followers and mundane issues not deviate us.
Best Regards,
Naser Pourali Fard
President of Ir.Iran.B.B.F
Сегодня пришло письмо из Сингапура от ПОЛА ЧУА, который пишет, что Р.САНТОХЕ удалось удержать только 6-7 стран Азии из 40. Он рад, что Азия не пошла на поводу у ИФББ, Даже 33 страны Азии будут участвовать в соревнованиях конкурентов ИФББ в Тайланде:
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Re: your unsound behavior
To: "I.R.IRAN Federation" <iriranbbf@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Osama Ahmed Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Mohamed Abdulrahim Abdulla Bahrain" <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>, "Hussain Al Saffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, 15 July, 2009, 6:59 PM
Dear Mr. Alifard,
This is a good letter and I intend to circular this to all of Asia and the World to show how wisely it was written and to make them understand the basic law on rules.
You have clinically cut him off...Congrats. They are shaking because there is no more than 6/7 countries going to Aurangbad, India...This will put the IFBB to shame.
Paul Chua
Secretary-General – ABBF
THIS LETTER WAS ADDRESSED TO IFBB'S INDIAN BODYBUILDING FEDERATION FOR HIS UNSOUND BEHAVIOUR TRYING TO LURE IRAN TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR SO CALLED VERSION OF "ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS". THEY ARE WEAK AND PRACTICALLY BEGGING EVERYONE TO ATTEND.
THE ABBF TOGETHER WITH THE THAILAND BODYBUILDING ASSOCIATION HAVE RECEIVED 33 COUNTRIES SO FAR PARTICIPATING IN THE MULTI-ASIAN BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIPS TO BE HELD IN PATTAYA, THAILAND FROM 11 - 17 AUGUST, 2009
WE ARE CIRULATING THE LETTER REPLY BY IRAN FOR YOUR KIND INFORMATION.
PAUL CHUA
SECRETARY-GENERAL – ABBF
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Федерация культуристов Азии поздравляет ИФГФ – организаторов Всемирных игр. Федерация культуристов Азии подчёркивает, что из-за вины РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХИ много стран не имели возможности участвовать в играх, а Малайзия и Китай отказались сами. 8 из 9 спортсменов Египта были отстранены от участия в связи с подозрением на применение ими допинга.
По просьбе представителя ИФББ в Египте на допинг в играх проверят только одного из призёров, что даст возможность многим избежать контроля и наказания.
From: ifbbpro@rocketmail.com <ifbbpro@rocketmail.com>
Subject: NO SHOW UP BY CHINA, MALAYSIA AND 8 EGYPTIANS MISSING???? BREAKING NEWS
To: vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es, abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg
Date: Friday, 17 July, 2009, 6:33 AM
Dear Bodybuilding Enthusiasts
We should support the World Games because it is a sporting organisation assisting non-Olympic sportsmen to gather and participate. We salute IWGF and the Kaohsiung World Organising Committee for doing a great job in hosting the 2009 World Games in Taiwan.
But we strongly detest the IFBB's system in selecting the team of bodybuilders to represent at the Games. It was politics. Second stringers' athletes from India were being fielded to help the "ibbf" unrecognised Indian Team under More and his group affiliated to the IFBB to compete. A SHAM for sure.
The BREAKING NEWS are:
a) MALAYSIA did not send their athlete because they felt insulted when the IFBB tried to cover the Doping incident of Jose from Brazil from the last World Bodybuilding Championships held in Manama, Bahrain; If the IFBB can cheat doping ..what about the results, athletes do not trust them!!!! MALAYSIA support the ABBF 100% and sending a strong team to Pattaya, Thailand for the Asian Championships
b) CHINA also abstained in sending their athletes . No reasons were given but from sources we understand that the IFBB officials are arrogant and unfriendly. Without Paul Chua, the Chinese may be treated by the IFBB badly. Chua was very co-operative and a friendly guy who knows the sensitiveness of the Asian people like the Chinese in particular. His presence would have made a difference. He knows how to socialise and bring the people together.
c) WOW... Heard rumours that Egypt sent only 1 athlete because 8 were either positive on drugs or they were afraid of the target testing by WADA. They will fail the test. At the IFBB competitions, the EGYPTIAN BODYBUILDERS are treated like the Pharaohs and the IFBB willingly consented to their request at the last Congress in Manama that only one from the top 3 will be tested for dope testing and 1 or 2 athletes will be picked from the 4th - 6th placings. Why? Because the Egyptians are all on drugs and they will surely win the top 3 spots and by testing only one from the top 3, they could escape dope testing and win the Team Championships trophy. Rafael allowed this system to help Egypt. Is this a fair game? You JUDGE.
Now through the folly of Rafael, Maurico and William, they blundered and deprived many other athletes from participating in the World Games. This favouritism game of the IFBB must be checked and the IFBB should be questioned for all these nonsense.
Victor Mendis
Руководители культуризма в Азии требуют РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХУ разъяснить противоречивую политику ИФББ по допингу на Всемирных играх:
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Fw: At least be brave and face us with some answers or give up your seat at IFBB!
To: "GAISF" <info@agfisonline.com>, "WG" <sec@worldgames-iwga.org>, "wada" <emiliano.simonelli@wada-ama.org>, "wada" <marilyn.malenfant@wada-ama.org>, "Wada Info - main office" nfo@agfisonline.com, vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es, "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>
Date: Saturday, 18 July, 2009, 6:53 PM
Dear ABBF Members
This letter is questioning the IFBB's Rafael Santonja for answers by the Vice-President Mr. M. Haleem of the South Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation and the Honorary Life President of the Maldives.
We hope the IFBB can come up with genuine answers.
Paul Chua
Secretary-General - ABBF
Руководители культуризма в Азии требуют РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХУ разъяснить противоречивую политику ИФББ по допингу на Всемирных играх:
From: Mohamed Haleem <haleem@gmail.com>
Subject: At least be brave and face us with some answers or give up your seat at IFBB!
To: "Rafael Santonja IFBB President" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>
Date: Saturday, 18 July, 2009, 4:39 PM
Dear Rafeal,
First of all, why is it that you’re not replying to any of my emails? Are you that gutless? At least be brave and face us with some answers or give up your seat at IFBB! Apparently you don’t have what it takes.
It may be that I'm being too blunt but are you or are you not going to suspend EGYPT for pulling out 8 of their 9 participants in the World Games in Kaohsiung. Their withdrawal in the last minute does raise some questions – are they on drugs? Frightened of the target testing maybe?
Is the IFBB bold enough to reprimand those 8 erring athletes or will it just sit still in its cowardliness?
Haleem
Президент федерации культуризма Тайланда ДУГЛАС ЛАНЧФОРД обвиняет ИФББ в коррупции и нарушениях правил ВАДА во время Всемирных игр.
8 из 9 заявленных культуристов Египта сняты с соревнований с подозрением на употребление допинга, а тайландскому спортсмену, дисквалифицированному за допинг, разрешено выступать в играх:
WHY EYGPT WITHDRAW 8 OF 9 OF THEIR ATHELTES FROM THE WORLD GAMES BB CHAMPIONSHIP, AND IN THE LAST MINUTES. I DON'T HAVE ANSWER FOR THIS SUDDEN ACTION, BUT MR. HALEEM ASK THIS FROM IFBB PRESIDENTD.
Quote in Get Big. ----
With less corruption in the IFBB and a more honest (or no) doping policy this could have been a great contest.
Rank BIB NOC Name Judges Sub score Round rank Total points Status Remark
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
1 39 UKR
BILOUS Oleksandr
3 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 6 1 16
2 43 QAT
ABDULRAHMAN Kamal Abdullsalam
1 3 1 3 1 2 4 4 2 11 2 33
3 40 SVK
TATARKA Peter
4 2 3 2 5 5 3 3 4 17 4 47
4 42 EST
KIIVIKAS Ott
2 4 5 4 4 3 2 2 3 16 3 54
5 41 TPE
HSU Chia-hao
5 5 4 5 3 4 5 5 5 24 5 74
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Федерация культуристов Азии поздравляет ИФГФ – организаторов Всемирных игр. Федерация культуристов Азии подчёркивает, что из-за вины РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХИ много стран не имели возможности участвовать в играх, а Малайзия и Китай отказались сами. 8 из 9 спортсменов Египта были отстранены от участия в связи с подозрением на применение ими допинга.
По просьбе представителя ИФББ в Египте на допинг в играх проверят только одного из призёров, что даст возможность многим избежать контроля и наказания.
From: ifbbpro@rocketmail.com <ifbbpro@rocketmail.com>
Subject: NO SHOW UP BY CHINA, MALAYSIA AND 8 EGYPTIANS MISSING???? BREAKING NEWS
To: vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es, abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg
Date: Friday, 17 July, 2009, 6:33 AM
Dear Bodybuilding Enthusiasts
We should support the World Games because it is a sporting organisation assisting non-Olympic sportsmen to gather and participate. We salute IWGF and the Kaohsiung World Organising Committee for doing a great job in hosting the 2009 World Games in Taiwan.
But we strongly detest the IFBB's system in selecting the team of bodybuilders to represent at the Games. It was politics. Second stringers' athletes from India were being fielded to help the "ibbf" unrecognised Indian Team under More and his group affiliated to the IFBB to compete. A SHAM for sure.
The BREAKING NEWS are:
a) MALAYSIA did not send their athlete because they felt insulted when the IFBB tried to cover the Doping incident of Jose from Brazil from the last World Bodybuilding Championships held in Manama, Bahrain; If the IFBB can cheat doping ..what about the results, athletes do not trust them!!!! MALAYSIA support the ABBF 100% and sending a strong team to Pattaya, Thailand for the Asian Championships
b) CHINA also abstained in sending their athletes . No reasons were given but from sources we understand that the IFBB officials are arrogant and unfriendly. Without Paul Chua, the Chinese may be treated by the IFBB badly. Chua was very co-operative and a friendly guy who knows the sensitiveness of the Asian people like the Chinese in particular. His presence would have made a difference. He knows how to socialise and bring the people together.
c) WOW... Heard rumours that Egypt sent only 1 athlete because 8 were either positive on drugs or they were afraid of the target testing by WADA. They will fail the test. At the IFBB competitions, the EGYPTIAN BODYBUILDERS are treated like the Pharaohs and the IFBB willingly consented to their request at the last Congress in Manama that only one from the top 3 will be tested for dope testing and 1 or 2 athletes will be picked from the 4th - 6th placings. Why? Because the Egyptians are all on drugs and they will surely win the top 3 spots and by testing only one from the top 3, they could escape dope testing and win the Team Championships trophy. Rafael allowed this system to help Egypt. Is this a fair game? You JUDGE.
Now through the folly of Rafael, Maurico and William, they blundered and deprived many other athletes from participating in the World Games. This favouritism game of the IFBB must be checked and the IFBB should be questioned for all these nonsense.
Victor Mendis
Руководители культуризма в Азии требуют РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХУ разъяснить противоречивую политику ИФББ по допингу на Всемирных играх:
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Fw: At least be brave and face us with some answers or give up your seat at IFBB!
To: "GAISF" <info@agfisonline.com>, "WG" <sec@worldgames-iwga.org>, "wada" <emiliano.simonelli@wada-ama.org>, "wada" <marilyn.malenfant@wada-ama.org>, "Wada Info - main office" nfo@agfisonline.com, vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es, "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>
Date: Saturday, 18 July, 2009, 6:53 PM
Dear ABBF Members
This letter is questioning the IFBB's Rafael Santonja for answers by the Vice-President Mr. M. Haleem of the South Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation and the Honorary Life President of the Maldives.
We hope the IFBB can come up with genuine answers.
Paul Chua
Secretary-General - ABBF
Руководители культуризма в Азии требуют РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХУ разъяснить противоречивую политику ИФББ по допингу на Всемирных играх:
From: Mohamed Haleem <haleem@gmail.com>
Subject: At least be brave and face us with some answers or give up your seat at IFBB!
To: "Rafael Santonja IFBB President" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>
Date: Saturday, 18 July, 2009, 4:39 PM
Dear Rafeal,
First of all, why is it that you’re not replying to any of my emails? Are you that gutless? At least be brave and face us with some answers or give up your seat at IFBB! Apparently you don’t have what it takes.
It may be that I'm being too blunt but are you or are you not going to suspend EGYPT for pulling out 8 of their 9 participants in the World Games in Kaohsiung. Their withdrawal in the last minute does raise some questions – are they on drugs? Frightened of the target testing maybe?
Is the IFBB bold enough to reprimand those 8 erring athletes or will it just sit still in its cowardliness?
Haleem
Президент федерации культуризма Тайланда ДУГЛАС ЛАНЧФОРД обвиняет ИФББ в коррупции и нарушениях правил ВАДА во время Всемирных игр.
8 из 9 заявленных культуристов Египта сняты с соревнований с подозрением на употребление допинга, а тайландскому спортсмену, дисквалифицированному за допинг, разрешено выступать в играх:
WHY EYGPT WITHDRAW 8 OF 9 OF THEIR ATHELTES FROM THE WORLD GAMES BB CHAMPIONSHIP, AND IN THE LAST MINUTES. I DON'T HAVE ANSWER FOR THIS SUDDEN ACTION, BUT MR. HALEEM ASK THIS FROM IFBB PRESIDENTD.
Quote in Get Big. ----
With less corruption in the IFBB and a more honest (or no) doping policy this could have been a great contest.
Rank BIB NOC Name Judges Sub score Round rank Total points Status Remark
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
1 39 UKR
BILOUS Oleksandr
3 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 6 1 16
2 43 QAT
ABDULRAHMAN Kamal Abdullsalam
1 3 1 3 1 2 4 4 2 11 2 33
3 40 SVK
TATARKA Peter
4 2 3 2 5 5 3 3 4 17 4 47
4 42 EST
KIIVIKAS Ott
2 4 5 4 4 3 2 2 3 16 3 54
5 41 TPE
HSU Chia-hao
5 5 4 5 3 4 5 5 5 24 5 74
From: skanda <skanda@loxinfo.co.th>
Subject: WORLD GAMES
To: "William Tierney" <w.tierney2@ukonline.co.uk>, "RAFAEL IFBB" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: "SUGREE." <seabbf@yahoo.com>, "CHUA PAUL" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Tuesday, 21 July, 2009, 4:47 PM
Dear Rafael, ( President of the IFBB )
I have just been able to view the resultts and comments on the World Games, not impressive.
Despite my long outstanding, and still unanswered correspondence with you and Tony Blinn
regarding the athlete Kamal from Quata , I see he was permitted to compete at the World Games,
why was this allowed ?
I maybe new to the bodybuilding world as such, but this ignoring and hiding the facts is totally against ethics.
Where does this leave one to have any trust or faith in the IFBB, their attitude is a complete scam,
and those responsable should be ashamed.
As usual I do not expect you to have the courtesy to reply, but I am putting my thoughts forward.
I have addressed you as President of the IFBB, a title you are hardly worthy of.
Douglas Latchford.
President Thailand Bodybuilding Association.
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WFF secretary service Wrote:WFF secretary service Wrote:WFF secretary service Wrote:WFF secretary service Wrote:WFF secretary service Wrote:Сегодня мы получили ещё одно письмо от юриста ИФББ с просьбой опубликовать на форуме.
Федерация культуристов Азии поздравляет ИФГФ – организаторов Всемирных игр. Федерация культуристов Азии подчёркивает, что из-за вины РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХИ много стран не имели возможности участвовать в играх, а Малайзия и Китай отказались сами. 8 из 9 спортсменов Египта были отстранены от участия в связи с подозрением на применение ими допинга.
По просьбе представителя ИФББ в Египте на допинг в играх проверят только одного из призёров, что даст возможность многим избежать контроля и наказания.
From: ifbbpro@rocketmail.com <ifbbpro@rocketmail.com>
Subject: NO SHOW UP BY CHINA, MALAYSIA AND 8 EGYPTIANS MISSING???? BREAKING NEWS
To: vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es, abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg
Date: Friday, 17 July, 2009, 6:33 AM
Dear Bodybuilding Enthusiasts
We should support the World Games because it is a sporting organisation assisting non-Olympic sportsmen to gather and participate. We salute IWGF and the Kaohsiung World Organising Committee for doing a great job in hosting the 2009 World Games in Taiwan.
But we strongly detest the IFBB's system in selecting the team of bodybuilders to represent at the Games. It was politics. Second stringers' athletes from India were being fielded to help the "ibbf" unrecognised Indian Team under More and his group affiliated to the IFBB to compete. A SHAM for sure.
The BREAKING NEWS are:
a) MALAYSIA did not send their athlete because they felt insulted when the IFBB tried to cover the Doping incident of Jose from Brazil from the last World Bodybuilding Championships held in Manama, Bahrain; If the IFBB can cheat doping ..what about the results, athletes do not trust them!!!! MALAYSIA support the ABBF 100% and sending a strong team to Pattaya, Thailand for the Asian Championships
b) CHINA also abstained in sending their athletes . No reasons were given but from sources we understand that the IFBB officials are arrogant and unfriendly. Without Paul Chua, the Chinese may be treated by the IFBB badly. Chua was very co-operative and a friendly guy who knows the sensitiveness of the Asian people like the Chinese in particular. His presence would have made a difference. He knows how to socialise and bring the people together.
c) WOW... Heard rumours that Egypt sent only 1 athlete because 8 were either positive on drugs or they were afraid of the target testing by WADA. They will fail the test. At the IFBB competitions, the EGYPTIAN BODYBUILDERS are treated like the Pharaohs and the IFBB willingly consented to their request at the last Congress in Manama that only one from the top 3 will be tested for dope testing and 1 or 2 athletes will be picked from the 4th - 6th placings. Why? Because the Egyptians are all on drugs and they will surely win the top 3 spots and by testing only one from the top 3, they could escape dope testing and win the Team Championships trophy. Rafael allowed this system to help Egypt. Is this a fair game? You JUDGE.
Now through the folly of Rafael, Maurico and William, they blundered and deprived many other athletes from participating in the World Games. This favouritism game of the IFBB must be checked and the IFBB should be questioned for all these nonsense.
Victor Mendis
Руководители культуризма в Азии требуют РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХУ разъяснить противоречивую политику ИФББ по допингу на Всемирных играх:
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Fw: At least be brave and face us with some answers or give up your seat at IFBB!
To: "GAISF" <info@agfisonline.com>, "WG" <sec@worldgames-iwga.org>, "wada" <emiliano.simonelli@wada-ama.org>, "wada" <marilyn.malenfant@wada-ama.org>, "Wada Info - main office" nfo@agfisonline.com, vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es, "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>
Date: Saturday, 18 July, 2009, 6:53 PM
Dear ABBF Members
This letter is questioning the IFBB's Rafael Santonja for answers by the Vice-President Mr. M. Haleem of the South Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation and the Honorary Life President of the Maldives.
We hope the IFBB can come up with genuine answers.
Paul Chua
Secretary-General - ABBF
Руководители культуризма в Азии требуют РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХУ разъяснить противоречивую политику ИФББ по допингу на Всемирных играх:
From: Mohamed Haleem <haleem@gmail.com>
Subject: At least be brave and face us with some answers or give up your seat at IFBB!
To: "Rafael Santonja IFBB President" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>
Date: Saturday, 18 July, 2009, 4:39 PM
Dear Rafeal,
First of all, why is it that you’re not replying to any of my emails? Are you that gutless? At least be brave and face us with some answers or give up your seat at IFBB! Apparently you don’t have what it takes.
It may be that I'm being too blunt but are you or are you not going to suspend EGYPT for pulling out 8 of their 9 participants in the World Games in Kaohsiung. Their withdrawal in the last minute does raise some questions – are they on drugs? Frightened of the target testing maybe?
Is the IFBB bold enough to reprimand those 8 erring athletes or will it just sit still in its cowardliness?
Haleem
Президент федерации культуризма Тайланда ДУГЛАС ЛАНЧФОРД обвиняет ИФББ в коррупции и нарушениях правил ВАДА во время Всемирных игр.
8 из 9 заявленных культуристов Египта сняты с соревнований с подозрением на употребление допинга, а тайландскому спортсмену, дисквалифицированному за допинг, разрешено выступать в играх:
WHY EYGPT WITHDRAW 8 OF 9 OF THEIR ATHELTES FROM THE WORLD GAMES BB CHAMPIONSHIP, AND IN THE LAST MINUTES. I DON'T HAVE ANSWER FOR THIS SUDDEN ACTION, BUT MR. HALEEM ASK THIS FROM IFBB PRESIDENTD.
Quote in Get Big. ----
With less corruption in the IFBB and a more honest (or no) doping policy this could have been a great contest.
Rank BIB NOC Name Judges Sub score Round rank Total points Status Remark
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
1 39 UKR
BILOUS Oleksandr
3 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 6 1 16
2 43 QAT
ABDULRAHMAN Kamal Abdullsalam
1 3 1 3 1 2 4 4 2 11 2 33
3 40 SVK
TATARKA Peter
4 2 3 2 5 5 3 3 4 17 4 47
4 42 EST
KIIVIKAS Ott
2 4 5 4 4 3 2 2 3 16 3 54
5 41 TPE
HSU Chia-hao
5 5 4 5 3 4 5 5 5 24 5 74
From: skanda <skanda@loxinfo.co.th>
Subject: WORLD GAMES
To: "William Tierney" <w.tierney2@ukonline.co.uk>, "RAFAEL IFBB" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: "SUGREE." <seabbf@yahoo.com>, "CHUA PAUL" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Tuesday, 21 July, 2009, 4:47 PM
Dear Rafael, ( President of the IFBB )
I have just been able to view the resultts and comments on the World Games, not impressive.
Despite my long outstanding, and still unanswered correspondence with you and Tony Blinn
regarding the athlete Kamal from Quata , I see he was permitted to compete at the World Games,
why was this allowed ?
I maybe new to the bodybuilding world as such, but this ignoring and hiding the facts is totally against ethics.
Where does this leave one to have any trust or faith in the IFBB, their attitude is a complete scam,
and those responsable should be ashamed.
As usual I do not expect you to have the courtesy to reply, but I am putting my thoughts forward.
I have addressed you as President of the IFBB, a title you are hardly worthy of.
Douglas Latchford.
President Thailand Bodybuilding Association.
WFF-International Official Information Only
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Культуристы США начинают понимать, что Олимпийский комитет Азии не признаёт ИФББ как официальную федерацию:
From: billsmith
Subject: ABBF vs IFBB
To: "CHUA PAUL" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Monday, 20 July, 2009, 1:00 PM
Dear Paul,
I would like to remind you that:
1) The Asian Bodybuilding Championships are Continental Official Events and not International Championships mentioned and governed by the IFBB Rules. In this respect the application of IFBB Rules article 2.1 and article 19.4.7 by IFBB is wrong and improper. I guess that the intention of somebody is to mislead the member federations of ABBF or to try to find the reason to suspend the members of IFBB in Asia which support the ABBF in order to clear all the obstacles to IFBB in the coming IFBB Congress.
2) The Asian Bodybuilding Championships are properties of the ABBF, to organize such Asian Official Events, the organizing member country must get approval from the ABBF and not the IFBB.
3) I agree that up to this moment the IFBB is still acting as the care taker as the recognized International Federation for the sport of Bodybuilding and Fitness, but don't forget that the ABBF is also the sole recognized Continental Federation for the sport of Bodybuilding and Fitness in Asia. The ABBF and its member federations need to be respected also, they have the right to saveguard theirs rights and interests.
I am am American and I thought that the IFBB should not cross the border of justice. I am not bothered with the personalty clash between you and Rafael. The IFBB should realize that they are not RECOGNISED by the International Olympic Committee and they were expelled from provisional membership for not following the rules of the IOC. So there is nothing for them to crow or bark.
Furthermore, as I understand that the IFBB was not registered in Spain and this alone is enough to protect the image of the ABBF.
Best regards,
Bill
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Национальные федерации стран Азии не признают ИФББ, котoрой руководит РАФАЭЛЬ САНТОХА:
From: navin rao <navin_rao2007@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Threatening by IFBB
To: "CHUA PAUL" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Cc: "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>
Date: Monday, 20 July, 2009, 1:27 PM
Datuk Paul Chua
Secretary General-ABBF
Respected Sir,
Many of our member countries called me up and told me about the letter send to them by IFBB mentioning that 43rd Asian Championship at Pattaya(Thailand)is not recognized or sanctioned by IFBB and Participating countries and Athletes will be suspended.All these countries are very upset and disappointed with this harsh attitude of IFBB, threatenings and all.They also told me that they will support and remain with ABBF only under the leadership of You and Mr.Osama Alshafar as they are fed-up with double standards of IFBB.
Our members are shocked that on what grounds they are saying all this.OCA recognized ABBF under the leadership of you and Mr.Osama Alshafar.All the member countries were waiting for various reply from IFBB regarding many question and verification but no reply was given by IFBB.Moreover before announcing the suspension about ABBF neither the member countries were informed with concrete facts and reasons for this suspension nor these countries gave their consent to form SCA under Qatar which is already controversial for cheating in doping.
The competition IFBB wants to organize in India is not approved by Govt of India and IOA.There is a huge controversy that they selected one Athlete who is under suspension for doping matter.
All these countries confirmed me that they will participate at Pattaya(Thailand).
Best Regards
Amit Swami
Secretary General-SABBF
E.D-IBBF
cc to
Mr.Osama Alshafar
Hon'ble President-ABBF
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WFF secretary service Wrote:Национальные федерации стран Азии не признают ИФББ, котoрой руководит РАФАЭЛЬ САНТОХА:
From: navin rao <navin_rao2007@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Threatening by IFBB
To: "CHUA PAUL" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Cc: "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>
Date: Monday, 20 July, 2009, 1:27 PM
Datuk Paul Chua
Secretary General-ABBF
Respected Sir,
Many of our member countries called me up and told me about the letter send to them by IFBB mentioning that 43rd Asian Championship at Pattaya(Thailand)is not recognized or sanctioned by IFBB and Participating countries and Athletes will be suspended.All these countries are very upset and disappointed with this harsh attitude of IFBB, threatenings and all.They also told me that they will support and remain with ABBF only under the leadership of You and Mr.Osama Alshafar as they are fed-up with double standards of IFBB.
Our members are shocked that on what grounds they are saying all this.OCA recognized ABBF under the leadership of you and Mr.Osama Alshafar.All the member countries were waiting for various reply from IFBB regarding many question and verification but no reply was given by IFBB.Moreover before announcing the suspension about ABBF neither the member countries were informed with concrete facts and reasons for this suspension nor these countries gave their consent to form SCA under Qatar which is already controversial for cheating in doping.
The competition IFBB wants to organize in India is not approved by Govt of India and IOA.There is a huge controversy that they selected one Athlete who is under suspension for doping matter.
All these countries confirmed me that they will participate at Pattaya(Thailand).
Best Regards
Amit Swami
Secretary General-SABBF
E.D-IBBF
cc to
Mr.Osama Alshafar
Hon'ble President-ABBF
From: Shawn Sugendran <cop_666_sg@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Threatening by IFBB
To: "CHUA PAUL" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Tuesday, 21 July, 2009, 7:12 PM
Dear Datuk,
Thus far, Singapore has not received any threatening letters from IFBB with regards to the Asian Championship and our support and participation. Even if they send us, we will probably be ignoring the letter just as they have conveniently ignored our letters seeking clarification and explanation. Without concrete facts and proper explanation (which they keep claiming they will share in due time but failed till now), we will not accept arbitrary decisions made ultra vires of the constitution. ABBF has been reasonably open and transparent of all proceedings with regards to this dispute and our support shall vest in where justice lies. The truth will always prevail..This tiny red dot will not be cowered by their desperate acts of attempted salvage.
Shawn
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From: navin rao <navin_rao2007@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Threatening by IFBB
To: "CHUA PAUL" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Cc: "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>
Date: Monday, 20 July, 2009, 1:27 PM
Datuk Paul Chua
Secretary General-ABBF
Respected Sir,
Many of our member countries called me up and told me about the letter send to them by IFBB mentioning that 43rd Asian Championship at Pattaya(Thailand)is not recognized or sanctioned by IFBB and Participating countries and Athletes will be suspended.All these countries are very upset and disappointed with this harsh attitude of IFBB, threatenings and all.They also told me that they will support and remain with ABBF only under the leadership of You and Mr.Osama Alshafar as they are fed-up with double standards of IFBB.
Our members are shocked that on what grounds they are saying all this.OCA recognized ABBF under the leadership of you and Mr.Osama Alshafar.All the member countries were waiting for various reply from IFBB regarding many question and verification but no reply was given by IFBB.Moreover before announcing the suspension about ABBF neither the member countries were informed with concrete facts and reasons for this suspension nor these countries gave their consent to form SCA under Qatar which is already controversial for cheating in doping.
The competition IFBB wants to organize in India is not approved by Govt of India and IOA.There is a huge controversy that they selected one Athlete who is under suspension for doping matter.
All these countries confirmed me that they will participate at Pattaya(Thailand).
Best Regards
Amit Swami
Secretary General-SABBF
E.D-IBBF
cc to
Mr.Osama Alshafar
Hon'ble President-ABBF
From: Shawn Sugendran <cop_666_sg@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Threatening by IFBB
To: "CHUA PAUL" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Tuesday, 21 July, 2009, 7:12 PM
Dear Datuk,
Thus far, Singapore has not received any threatening letters from IFBB with regards to the Asian Championship and our support and participation. Even if they send us, we will probably be ignoring the letter just as they have conveniently ignored our letters seeking clarification and explanation. Without concrete facts and proper explanation (which they keep claiming they will share in due time but failed till now), we will not accept arbitrary decisions made ultra vires of the constitution. ABBF has been reasonably open and transparent of all proceedings with regards to this dispute and our support shall vest in where justice lies. The truth will always prevail..This tiny red dot will not be cowered by their desperate acts of attempted salvage.
Shawn
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: : Re: Threatening by IFBB
To: "ABBF ADM" abbf.adm@hotmail.comб, "Malih ALAYWAN Lebanon" sateh_n@yahoo.com, vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es
Date: Tuesday, 21 July, 2009, 10:38 PM
DEAR ABBF MEMBERS
THIS LETTER WAS WRITTEN BY THE GENERAL-SECRETARY OF THE SINGAPORE BODYBUILDING AND FITNESS FEDERATION.
IFBB'S COMPLAINTS ARE TOTALLY IGNORED BY NOC'S AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES BECAUSE WE HAVE HARD EVIDENCE AGAINST THEM. EVEN THE 2005 CASE ON DOPING THE IFBB KNEW ABOUT THE MATTER, AND WE HAVE EVIDENCE IN HAND. NO WORRIES. WE WILL PUT THEM TO SHAME.
PAUL CHUA
SECRETARY-GENERAL - ABBF
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WFF secretary service Wrote:WFF secretary service Wrote:WFF secretary service Wrote:Новые представители ИФББ в Индии организуют чемпионат мира:
From: Sanjay More <ibbf_sanjaymore@live.com>
Subject:
To: "ABBF Office Qatar" <sca-abbf@live.com>, "Afghanistan" <hedayat313@hotmail.com>, "Afghanistan" <hotak.bawar@yahoo..com>, "Bharain" <tariqbbh@yahoo.com>, "Bhutan" <gsd@druknet.bt>, "Cambodia" <r_samboefeo@hotmail.com>, "China" <cbba-cn@sohu.com>, "Dr Rafel Santonja" <internacional@santonja.com>, "Dr.Eng.Adel Fahim" <efbb@tedata.net.eg>, "Hong Kong" <info@hkbba.org>, "Indonesia" <bigguy1402@yahoo.com>, "Indonesia" <smb@cbn.net.id>, "Iran" <bbfiran@yahoo.com>, "Iran" <iriranbbf@yahoo.com>, "Iraqi" <iraqibbf@yahoo.com>, "Korea Bodybuilding Federation" <bodybuilding@sports.or.kr>, "KSA" <katem_a@hotmail.com>, "Lao" <cbannavong@hotmail.com>, "Lebanon" <sateh_n@yahoo.com>, "Macau" <chelucky@macau.ctm.net>, "Malaysia" <mbbffrancisyong@hotmail.com>, "Mangolia" <budes_e@yahoo.com>, "mauricio arruda" <mauricio@santonja.com>, "Myanmar" <ycdc@mptmail.net.com>, "Nepal BB President - Rajesh Shreshta" <rajesh@chitawoncoe.com>, "Nepal" <nbba@mail..com>, "Oman" <info@sportsoman.com>, "Pakistan" <nocpakistan@gmail.com>, "Palestine" <abujaffar@gmail.com>, "Philippines" <limluciano@yahoo.com>, "Shreshta Nepal" <rajan.shrestha@ntc.net.np>, "Singapore" <joe_diversg@yahoo.com>, "Sri Lanka President Mr. Jeff" <jeffschucroft@gmail.com>, "Suresh Pai" <sureshpai57@yahoo.com>, "UAE" <bodybuld@emirates.net.ae>, "Uzbekistan Bodybuilding Assn." <uzb_bodybuildingfitness@yahoo.com>, "Vietnam" <bodybuilding.vgf@vnn..vn>, "Vietnam" <toangiacuong@vnn.vn>, "William Tierney" <w.tierney2@ukonline.co.uk>, "Yemen" <ywlf2002@hotmail.com>
Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 4:28 PM
Dear Friends,
We are pleased to inform you that we are ready with all the preparations regarding contest, accomodation & travelling. Along with this for your convience we are sending you attactment consisting flight arriving and departuring from Mumbai - Aurangabad - Mumbai and Delhi - Aurangabad - Delhi.
Please mail us with your confirmation of arriving and departuring flights as to make your stay at Aurangabad comfortable.
Excepting to do the needful to avoid your inconvience.
Hope to see you soon in Aurangabad
Thanks & Regards,
SANJAY C.MORE
HON.GENERAL SECRETARY
Indian Body Building & Fitness Federation
После недавнего провала ИФББ организовать чемпионат мира в Арабских Эмиратах и Катаре, страны Азии считают чемпионат мира ИФББ в Индии нелегальным. Вот письмо в Индию из Ирана:
From: I.R.IRAN Federation <iriranbbf@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: your unsound behavior
To: "Sanjay More" <ibbf_sanjaymore@live.com>
Cc: "CHUA PAUL" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Wednesday, 15 July, 2009, 4:32 PM
Dear Mr Sanjay,
We received your Invitation through email .I think , a person who is from Indian . this extensive laying out country with rational elites can not do some thing like that.
I think it is better to remind you :
1-The charter of OCA should be studied exactly and every one should follow up the rules.
2-Federations rely on their regulations according to the justice and enforcement .
3- When one member of federation commits offence is it rational to accuse the rest of members?
4-unilateral suspension without study of an unclear evidence is an injustice action.
5-Suspension of Asian federation without attendance of its members is impoliteness toward national federations and members from different countries.
6-If an offence is committed, why is unveiled up to now ?and why they now talk about that?
7-You know if an offence is committed, therefore all the sponsors of that time are responsible for that.
8-Encouraging divergence and duality among federations is the behavior of seditious ,and it will damage the athletes and sport of bodybuilding.
9-In ancient countries of Asia and India ,the accused community task is to defend its rights directly.
10-No hearing or commission out of founders of assembly ,which is not confirmed by members is null and void.
11-If your competition is to be held under the constitution of Asian federation .I should say your competition is null and void .because you believe ABBF is not legal.
12-These unsound behaviors is impoliteness towards federations .
Finally the Almighty God may protect us as virtuous followers and mundane issues not deviate us.
Best Regards,
Naser Pourali Fard
President of Ir.Iran.B.B.F
Сегодня пришло письмо из Сингапура от ПОЛА ЧУА, который пишет, что Р.САНТОХЕ удалось удержать только 6-7 стран Азии из 40. Он рад, что Азия не пошла на поводу у ИФББ, Даже 33 страны Азии будут участвовать в соревнованиях конкурентов ИФББ в Тайланде:
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Re: your unsound behavior
To: "I.R.IRAN Federation" <iriranbbf@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Osama Ahmed Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Mohamed Abdulrahim Abdulla Bahrain" <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>, "Hussain Al Saffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, 15 July, 2009, 6:59 PM
Dear Mr. Alifard,
This is a good letter and I intend to circular this to all of Asia and the World to show how wisely it was written and to make them understand the basic law on rules.
You have clinically cut him off...Congrats. They are shaking because there is no more than 6/7 countries going to Aurangbad, India...This will put the IFBB to shame.
Paul Chua
Secretary-General – ABBF
THIS LETTER WAS ADDRESSED TO IFBB'S INDIAN BODYBUILDING FEDERATION FOR HIS UNSOUND BEHAVIOUR TRYING TO LURE IRAN TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR SO CALLED VERSION OF "ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS". THEY ARE WEAK AND PRACTICALLY BEGGING EVERYONE TO ATTEND.
THE ABBF TOGETHER WITH THE THAILAND BODYBUILDING ASSOCIATION HAVE RECEIVED 33 COUNTRIES SO FAR PARTICIPATING IN THE MULTI-ASIAN BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIPS TO BE HELD IN PATTAYA, THAILAND FROM 11 - 17 AUGUST, 2009
WE ARE CIRULATING THE LETTER REPLY BY IRAN FOR YOUR KIND INFORMATION.
PAUL CHUA
SECRETARY-GENERAL – ABBF
Соревнований РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХИ в Индии не признаёт НИКТО:
From: Chandran.M <chandran.m@deccanexpress.in>
Subject: RE: JUST WAIT AND WATCH
To: "'Dr. Randhir Hastir'" <tarabody@hotmail.com>, "'beni francis'" <benfrancis_ibbff@yahoo.co.in>
Cc: "'Thiru Vengadum'" <thiru_rltpokimon@yahoo.com>, akscute_63@yahoo.co.in, "'Amit Swami'" <amitsabbf@gmail.com>, "'Anil Jit jharkhand'" <aniljeet_powergym@yahoo.com>, "'bb india1'" <ateliersfitnes@yahoo.co.in>, "'addkallorific'" <addkalorific@gmail.com>, abbfasia@yahoo.com, banshtu@gmail.com, "'Bette Gowda'" <sagar_bl@indiatimes.com>, "'b.v. g rao rao orissa'" <bvg_rao20@yahoo.in>, bdbbfa@hotmail..com, ks.banshtu@cwgdelhi2010.org, "'YELDOW COL BB'" <lt_col_yaldhow@yahoo.co.in>, "'durga chatter'" <durgadas_chatterjee@yahoo.co.in>, sales_krishnasandesharts@rediffmail.com, "'SERVICIS BB'" <sscb@vsnl.net>, "'state bodybuilding'" <statebody@yahoo.in>, "'satish Pokhiyal'" <flexgym@rediffmail.com>, "'Siri Nivasan Gaud'" <dusari_srinivasgoud@yahoo.co.in>, "'Nayak g.s.'" <girijashankar_nayak@yahoo.com>, "'G.B. gIRI'" <ganeshbahadurgiri@yahoo.com>, "'g.l.. sharma'" <minarthfitness@yahoo.com>, "'gOLAK Patnayak'" <golakbodyline@yahoo.com>, "'Inder Mohan'" <imsingh3@yahoo.co.in>, "'saleem telngana'" <masaleemmrindia@yahoo.com>, "'mystri gujrat'" <kjmistrygujarat@yahoo.com>, "'navin yadav'" <navin_rao2007@yahoo.ca>, "'Naveen Yadav'" <naveenyadav1970@gmail.com>, "'PAULY TV'" <paulythattil123@gmail.com>, "'pothuraj ram krishan'" <rkpothuraju@yahoo.com>, patil_01@yahoo.com, "'RANDHIR SINGH'" <randhirpatiala@gmail.com>, "'sangram bezburaha'" <sangram.bezboruah@gmail.com>, "'swamy saketh bb'" <swamy_saketh2000@yahoo.com>, "'Sunil Walia'" <sunilsaroop@yahoo.com>, "'baba madhok'" <babamadhok@gmail.com>, "'tushar seal'" <tusharsil38@gmail.com>, tanveerksbbabidar@gmail.com, "'up bb'" <upsbba@rediffmail.com>, "'durga das'" <durgadas_chatterjee@yahoo.in>
Date: Friday, 17 July, 2009, 6:02 PM
Watch http://www. abbf.asia and then click report and news ,you will find the OCA recognize ABBF, not the so called not yet constructed SCA and you think OCA will recognize SCA, If so You can take this granted unlike other parallel association we will stop working for this federation but will you stop running around and behind this bogus federation if OCA does not recognize this SCA . Also At This instance let me ask you why IFBB suspended ABBF ,Because of doping irregularity which you all were talking about, But Mr. Randhir how could you allow Mr. KAMARAJ to participate in the so called Asian trial at your place recently as you are the person to stop him playing in the recently concluded Senior national championship at Kolkatta telling that he is banned due to dope as he ran way from the dope test at the time of beach Asian games trial at AKLUG Maharashtra ,also I have a copy of the letter you have written on the same. And AT last as you said LET ALL OF US WAIT AND WATCH ,IT SHOULD SETTLE FAST OTHERWISE BODYBUILDERS OF INDIA SUFFERS …..LET US NOT ALLOW THAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF SOME PEOPLE BUSINESS OR POWER CRAZINESS. You may watch OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF IBBF ibbf.org.in which is not linked any product suppliers or business makers as of now. Wish you good health and keep pumping..
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Официальные лица Азии всё никак не получат ответа нна вопросы от РАФАЭЛЯ САНТОХИ и начинают над ним посмеиваться:
From: Mohamed Haleem <haleem@gmail.com>
Subject: Mr. RaFAIL rather than Mr. Rafael.
To: "Rafael Santonja IFBB President" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Thursday, 23 July, 2009, 1:55 PM
Dear Mr.Rafeal
As the Executive Vice President of The SABBFF, I'm asking these questions as its not only my responsibility but its yours as the President of IFBB to at least have the decency and courtesy to answer them.
1. Under who’s authorization did you sign the joint declaration with the late Dr. Ben Weider?
2. Why weren’t any of the member nations of IFBB informed of this joint declaration during the congresses from 2006 to 2008?
3. How much money was it that you received from Dr.. Ben Weider? Did you bank it directly to the IFBB account in Spain? On the other hand, it is my understanding that there is no IFBB in Spain. Please explain!
4. Why aren’t you answering the President of the Austrian Body Building Federation , Mr. Axel Bauer, when he’s asking you about the payment? We all read his emails and in our opinion they’re all legitimate. Why cant you answer them instead of postponing all this and trying to keep him gagged?
We hope that you, Mr. Rafael won’t ‘FAIL’ to answer them yet again, in which case you, the president of IFBB would be Mr. RaFAIL rather than Mr. Rafael.
Awaiting your reply
Mr. Mohamed Haleem,
Exc.Vice Presiden
SABBFF
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ИФББ в Азии потеряла официальность и собирает на международный конгресс Азии физические лица, а не федерации:
From: HKCBBA <info@hkbba.org>
Subject: IFBB INVITING INDIVIDUALS FOR THEIR SCA CONGRESS - INTERFERENCE INTO NATIONAL AFFAIRS
To: "Datuk Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Cc: "'Simon Chan (IPTFA)'" <simon@iptfa.com>, "Christina Kam" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>, osama@alshafar.ae, alsafarww73@yahoo.com, mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com, husain@ocasia.org
Date: Thursday, 23 July, 2009, 4:25 PM
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Сегодня мы получили письмо от бывшего вице президента ИФББ Азии к руководителю анти допингового комитета ИФББ.
Он пишет о многочисленных случаях нарушений правил ВАДА руководителями ИФББ, о сокрытии результатов по допингу, о манипуляциях с наказаниями за допинг.
Он акцентирует обиды спортсменов, когда выяснилось, сто спортивная федерации ИФББ не существует и это лишь частная коммерческая фирма. И виноват в этом владелец фирмы РАФАЭЛЬ САНТОХА и его подручные:
From: mohd abdulla <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Respond to the IFBB Corporation DC Report
To: "IFBB" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "hussin alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>, "Axel Bauer" <axel.bauer@chello.at>, "'Wanda Tierney'" <wanda.tierney@ukonline.co.uk>, "wada" <emiliano.simonelli@wada-ama.org>, "wada" <Kerwin.Clarke@wada-ama.org>, "wada" <marilyn.malenfant@wada-ama.org>, "Mauricio de Arruda" <mauricio@santonja.com>, "Sultan Bin Mejrin" <binmejren@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, 24 July, 2009, 5:25 AM
Dear. Mr. William Tierney,
Please see my reply to your email dated 22.07.2009, and I hope I get the answer of my question. I should not respond to your e-mail, but my conduct, personality, speciality and ethics allow me to respond.
You must know that I am an Executive Vice President for ABBF, which recognized by OCA, and I have no more link with IFBB.I respect any decision from OCA, and not from IFBB.
As you mentioned, the IFBB is a Signatory to the WADA Code and, through its anti-doping rules, conforms to the Code.
Sorry to tell you that you wrong, and the IFBB is not following the WADA Anti-Doping Rules, because:
1. Why IFBB hide the doping result of Jose Santos from Brazil. Please see Mr. Tony blinn e-mail to Rafael.
2. Why you do random doping test of top sex by testing 2 only in each category – you must test top three, the medalist and then random for the others in each category, you are doing this during in the IFBB world Men's Bodybuilding Championship, do you know why? I will answer you to reduce your positive cases.
3. Why IFBB did not ask for “B” samples, when the Tunisia laboratory rejected the 2 samples due to the quantity of urine in “A” was not sufficient to analyze, due to a serious mistake which IFBB Medical Committee made.
In spite that the ABBF do the top six doping test which means that in each championship 54 will be tested, and all athletes must be tested 4 weeks of the championship, and they must show the doping certificate on the Weighing –In day, NOW TELL ME WHO IS FOLLOWING THE WADA RULES IFBB, or ABBF?
4. Why IFBB medical team don’t know the amount of urine to be collected in each bottle “A” & “B”, as per the WADA rules the "A" sample bottle must contain minimum 50 ml and "B" sample bottle 25 ml. IFBB medical committee team make a big nad serious mistake, and violate the WADA doping rules during the 62nd IFBB Men’s Bodybuilding Championship in Bahrain on 6th of November 2008.
5. If you are following the WADA rules, why you reduced the suspension of 2 athletes from QATAR (Ali Tabrizi, and Kamal Abdulsalam) in the year of 2003 from 2 years to 9 months, and with the penalty of 10.000 US $ per each,
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME ABOUT THIS SERIOUS VIOLATION, AND BASED ON WHICH ARTICLES IN THE IFBB DOIPNT RULES AND WADA RULES.
6. Again you reduced the life banned of on the above athlete ( Kamal ) from life banned to 8 month in order to participate in 2008 IFBB Championship. Again can you explain to me in which constitution and article this action written in which IFBB had taken its action upon? THIS IS AGIANST THE WADA RULES, AND VERY SERIOUS VIOLATION.
7. What action IFBB had taken against Egypt Bodybuilding Federation:
• Violated doping from the year of 2000 – 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 World Games, and IFBB World Championship, 2006, 2007, and 2008. They failed 9 years continues doping test. WHAT ACTION IFBB TAKEN, SORY TO TELL YOU NOTHING, BECAUSE IFBB TAKING EGYPT SIDE. WHY???????????
• Egypt athlete Yousry Al Sayed was tested positive in the year of 2002 in IFBB championship in Cairo – Egypt ( 1ST Offence ). Then tested positive in the year of 2005 in World Games in Dasburg – Germany ( 2nd Offence ), and how come he participated in the 41st IFBB World Men’s Bodybuilding Championship in Check Republic. He supposed to be banned for life. How come he participated in this event, and again he tested positive ( 3rd Offence ). CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IN WHICH CONSTITUTION AND WHICH ARTICLES SUCH RULES WILL ALLOW HIM TO PARTICIPATE? ONLY IN CORPORATUION CONSTITUTION.
THIS IS THE MOST SERIOUS DOPING VIOALTION WHICH IFBB
DID ,BY NOT TAKE ANY ACTION WHICH IS AGAINST THE WADA
RULES.
8. Why you removed the suspension of Qatar Bodybuilding Federation, and it was approved by your president Rafael Santonja in ABBF Congress in China in the month of August 2007, and he ( IFBB President ) supported ABBF decision very highly. For your kind information all of these DOCUMENTED. Not only this the IFBB President approved ABBF decision in IFBB Congress in the same year ( October 2007 ) in Jeju - Korea in IFBB Congress, and IFBB send the Qatar team back, and did not allow them to participate in the championship.
WHY IFBB DID NOT ALLOW THE QATAR TEAM TO PARTICIPATE IN 61st IFBB MEN'S BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIP IN JEJU IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER 2007, AND IFBB SEND THE QATAR TEAM BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY. CAN YOU ASNWER THIS QUESTION, WHY YOU SEND THE TEAM BACK? AND WHY IN THE YEAR OF 2008 AFTER THE QATAR PRESIDENT WITH ADEL FAHEEM WENT TO MADRID AND MET RAFAEL SANTONJA, THEN HE ( RAFAEL ) REMOVED ALL THE SUSPENSION, IT IS A BIG QUESTION MARKS ????????????????????????????????????? Yes I was the chairman of the hearing committee for the 3 athletes from China Hong Kong, and with my committee , WE GAVE OVER PROPOSAL TO ABBF PRESIDENT IN 2005, JUST PROPOSAL, AND WE DID NOT TOOK ANY ACTION, WE FOUND THAT THEY ARE NOT CRIMINALS, AND WE DID NOT BY PASS THE LAW. BUT IFBB DID WHEN HE ALLOWED QATAR ATHLETE KAMAL ABDULSALAM TO PARTICPATE IN IFBB EVENT WHILE UNDER SUSPENSION, WHY IFBB DID NOT ASK ABBF, AND IFBB PRESIDENT WAS FULLY AWARE OF THIS ATHELETE. NOT ONLY THIS IN DECEMBER 2007, HE PARTICIPATED IN UNSANCTIONED CHAMPIONSHIP IN USA, AND MR. DOUGLESS THE PRESIDENT OF THAILAND BODYBUILDING FEDEARTION WROTE SEVERAL LETTERS TO RAFAEL SANTONJA – IFBB PRESIDENT ABOUT THIS SERIOUS ISSUE BUT TILL DATED HE IS QUITE AND DID NOT ANSWER MR. DOUGLESS. AND YOU ARE ASKING ME WHY I WAS SILENT WHEN THE HONG KONG ATHELTE PARTICIPATED IN 2005 IN IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP WHILE UNDR SUSPENTION. FOR YOUR KIND INFORAMTION, I DID NOT ATTEN THIS CHAMPIONSHIP, AND HOW CAN I KNOW HE PARTICIPATED. IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF IFBB TO CHECK THE POSITIVE CASES IN ALL INTERCONTINENATL FEDEERATION AND MONITORING THEM. IT IS IFBB MISTAKE IF HE WAS ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE, AND THIS MEAN THAT YOUR MEDICAL TEAM IS NOT QUALIFIED, AND IFBB DON’T FOLLOW THE DOPING RULES. ALL OF THE INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION MONITORING DOPING EXCEPT IFBB, ANDWHY NOT IFBB, THE ANSWER IS VEERY SIMPLE, BECAUSE IT IS A CORPORATION AND NOT FEDERATION, AND NOT REDGSTERED AS FEDERATION, AND NOT RECOGNIZED BY IOC. THEREFORE VIOLATE THE DOPING AND WADA RULES.
TO PROVE THAT IFBB IS VIOLATING THE DOPING AND NOT FOLLOWING THE WAD ANTI-DOPING RULES, PLEASE SE THE BELOW, AN EMAIL FRO MR. TONY BLINN TO RAFAEL SANTONJA TO HIDE THE BRAZILIAN ATHELTE DOPING RESULTS:
Mohamed Abdulrahim Abdulla
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WFF secretary service Wrote:Сегодня мы получили письмо от бывшего вице президента ИФББ Азии к руководителю анти допингового комитета ИФББ.
Он пишет о многочисленных случаях нарушений правил ВАДА руководителями ИФББ, о сокрытии результатов по допингу, о манипуляциях с наказаниями за допинг.
Он акцентирует обиды спортсменов, когда выяснилось, сто спортивная федерации ИФББ не существует и это лишь частная коммерческая фирма. И виноват в этом владелец фирмы РАФАЭЛЬ САНТОХА и его подручные:
From: mohd abdulla <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Respond to the IFBB Corporation DC Report
To: "IFBB" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "hussin alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>, "Axel Bauer" <axel.bauer@chello.at>, "'Wanda Tierney'" <wanda.tierney@ukonline.co.uk>, "wada" <emiliano.simonelli@wada-ama.org>, "wada" <Kerwin.Clarke@wada-ama.org>, "wada" <marilyn.malenfant@wada-ama.org>, "Mauricio de Arruda" <mauricio@santonja.com>, "Sultan Bin Mejrin" <binmejren@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, 24 July, 2009, 5:25 AM
Dear. Mr. William Tierney,
Please see my reply to your email dated 22.07.2009, and I hope I get the answer of my question. I should not respond to your e-mail, but my conduct, personality, speciality and ethics allow me to respond.
You must know that I am an Executive Vice President for ABBF, which recognized by OCA, and I have no more link with IFBB.I respect any decision from OCA, and not from IFBB.
As you mentioned, the IFBB is a Signatory to the WADA Code and, through its anti-doping rules, conforms to the Code.
Sorry to tell you that you wrong, and the IFBB is not following the WADA Anti-Doping Rules, because:
1. Why IFBB hide the doping result of Jose Santos from Brazil. Please see Mr. Tony blinn e-mail to Rafael.
2. Why you do random doping test of top sex by testing 2 only in each category – you must test top three, the medalist and then random for the others in each category, you are doing this during in the IFBB world Men's Bodybuilding Championship, do you know why? I will answer you to reduce your positive cases.
3. Why IFBB did not ask for “B” samples, when the Tunisia laboratory rejected the 2 samples due to the quantity of urine in “A” was not sufficient to analyze, due to a serious mistake which IFBB Medical Committee made.
In spite that the ABBF do the top six doping test which means that in each championship 54 will be tested, and all athletes must be tested 4 weeks of the championship, and they must show the doping certificate on the Weighing –In day, NOW TELL ME WHO IS FOLLOWING THE WADA RULES IFBB, or ABBF?
4. Why IFBB medical team don’t know the amount of urine to be collected in each bottle “A” & “B”, as per the WADA rules the "A" sample bottle must contain minimum 50 ml and "B" sample bottle 25 ml. IFBB medical committee team make a big nad serious mistake, and violate the WADA doping rules during the 62nd IFBB Men’s Bodybuilding Championship in Bahrain on 6th of November 2008.
5. If you are following the WADA rules, why you reduced the suspension of 2 athletes from QATAR (Ali Tabrizi, and Kamal Abdulsalam) in the year of 2003 from 2 years to 9 months, and with the penalty of 10.000 US $ per each,
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME ABOUT THIS SERIOUS VIOLATION, AND BASED ON WHICH ARTICLES IN THE IFBB DOIPNT RULES AND WADA RULES.
6. Again you reduced the life banned of on the above athlete ( Kamal ) from life banned to 8 month in order to participate in 2008 IFBB Championship. Again can you explain to me in which constitution and article this action written in which IFBB had taken its action upon? THIS IS AGIANST THE WADA RULES, AND VERY SERIOUS VIOLATION.
7. What action IFBB had taken against Egypt Bodybuilding Federation:
• Violated doping from the year of 2000 – 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 World Games, and IFBB World Championship, 2006, 2007, and 2008. They failed 9 years continues doping test. WHAT ACTION IFBB TAKEN, SORY TO TELL YOU NOTHING, BECAUSE IFBB TAKING EGYPT SIDE. WHY???????????
• Egypt athlete Yousry Al Sayed was tested positive in the year of 2002 in IFBB championship in Cairo – Egypt ( 1ST Offence ). Then tested positive in the year of 2005 in World Games in Dasburg – Germany ( 2nd Offence ), and how come he participated in the 41st IFBB World Men’s Bodybuilding Championship in Check Republic. He supposed to be banned for life. How come he participated in this event, and again he tested positive ( 3rd Offence ). CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IN WHICH CONSTITUTION AND WHICH ARTICLES SUCH RULES WILL ALLOW HIM TO PARTICIPATE? ONLY IN CORPORATUION CONSTITUTION.
THIS IS THE MOST SERIOUS DOPING VIOALTION WHICH IFBB
DID ,BY NOT TAKE ANY ACTION WHICH IS AGAINST THE WADA
RULES.
8. Why you removed the suspension of Qatar Bodybuilding Federation, and it was approved by your president Rafael Santonja in ABBF Congress in China in the month of August 2007, and he ( IFBB President ) supported ABBF decision very highly. For your kind information all of these DOCUMENTED. Not only this the IFBB President approved ABBF decision in IFBB Congress in the same year ( October 2007 ) in Jeju - Korea in IFBB Congress, and IFBB send the Qatar team back, and did not allow them to participate in the championship.
WHY IFBB DID NOT ALLOW THE QATAR TEAM TO PARTICIPATE IN 61st IFBB MEN'S BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIP IN JEJU IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER 2007, AND IFBB SEND THE QATAR TEAM BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY. CAN YOU ASNWER THIS QUESTION, WHY YOU SEND THE TEAM BACK? AND WHY IN THE YEAR OF 2008 AFTER THE QATAR PRESIDENT WITH ADEL FAHEEM WENT TO MADRID AND MET RAFAEL SANTONJA, THEN HE ( RAFAEL ) REMOVED ALL THE SUSPENSION, IT IS A BIG QUESTION MARKS ????????????????????????????????????? Yes I was the chairman of the hearing committee for the 3 athletes from China Hong Kong, and with my committee , WE GAVE OVER PROPOSAL TO ABBF PRESIDENT IN 2005, JUST PROPOSAL, AND WE DID NOT TOOK ANY ACTION, WE FOUND THAT THEY ARE NOT CRIMINALS, AND WE DID NOT BY PASS THE LAW. BUT IFBB DID WHEN HE ALLOWED QATAR ATHLETE KAMAL ABDULSALAM TO PARTICPATE IN IFBB EVENT WHILE UNDER SUSPENSION, WHY IFBB DID NOT ASK ABBF, AND IFBB PRESIDENT WAS FULLY AWARE OF THIS ATHELETE. NOT ONLY THIS IN DECEMBER 2007, HE PARTICIPATED IN UNSANCTIONED CHAMPIONSHIP IN USA, AND MR. DOUGLESS THE PRESIDENT OF THAILAND BODYBUILDING FEDEARTION WROTE SEVERAL LETTERS TO RAFAEL SANTONJA – IFBB PRESIDENT ABOUT THIS SERIOUS ISSUE BUT TILL DATED HE IS QUITE AND DID NOT ANSWER MR. DOUGLESS. AND YOU ARE ASKING ME WHY I WAS SILENT WHEN THE HONG KONG ATHELTE PARTICIPATED IN 2005 IN IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP WHILE UNDR SUSPENTION. FOR YOUR KIND INFORAMTION, I DID NOT ATTEN THIS CHAMPIONSHIP, AND HOW CAN I KNOW HE PARTICIPATED. IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF IFBB TO CHECK THE POSITIVE CASES IN ALL INTERCONTINENATL FEDEERATION AND MONITORING THEM. IT IS IFBB MISTAKE IF HE WAS ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE, AND THIS MEAN THAT YOUR MEDICAL TEAM IS NOT QUALIFIED, AND IFBB DON’T FOLLOW THE DOPING RULES. ALL OF THE INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION MONITORING DOPING EXCEPT IFBB, ANDWHY NOT IFBB, THE ANSWER IS VEERY SIMPLE, BECAUSE IT IS A CORPORATION AND NOT FEDERATION, AND NOT REDGSTERED AS FEDERATION, AND NOT RECOGNIZED BY IOC. THEREFORE VIOLATE THE DOPING AND WADA RULES.
TO PROVE THAT IFBB IS VIOLATING THE DOPING AND NOT FOLLOWING THE WAD ANTI-DOPING RULES, PLEASE SE THE BELOW, AN EMAIL FRO MR. TONY BLINN TO RAFAEL SANTONJA TO HIDE THE BRAZILIAN ATHELTE DOPING RESULTS:
Mohamed Abdulrahim Abdulla
Executive Vice President for ABBF
Выше сказанное подтверждают много документов, среди которых и эти письма руководителей ИФББ:
Tony Blinn <tblinn@ifbbpro.com> wrote:
From: "Tony Blinn" <tblinn@ifbbpro.com>
To: "Dr. Rafael SANTONJA" <internacional@santonja.com>
CC: "Mag. Axel BAUER" <axel.bauer@chello.at>,
"Paul CHUA, DSM" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>,
"Prof. Dr. Eduardo H. De ROSE" <ehderose@terra.com.br>,
"Prof. Mauricio de Arruda CAMPOS" <mauricio@santonja.com>
Subject: FW: RES: jose carlos santos
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:46:10 -0800
Dear Rafael,
Further to my e-mail below, I should have mentioned that, at first glance, I'd pick option #1. I believe the IFBB Anti-Doping Committee is not empowered or authorized to make decisions that are outside the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules and WADA Code. This committee, in my opinion, must only operate within the narrow confines of the aforementioned Rules and WADC. To me, this is the proper and right thing to do.
The right to a constitutional appeal directly to the IFBB President is every member's right and, to allow this to go forward is to show how well our democracy works. Only the President should have the right to reduce Santos' suspension to a period other than what's called for in the Rules.
Therefore, I would suggest the following course of action:
1. Allow the hearing decision and two-year suspension from the ADC to stand as is.
2. Send this decision to Santos via Pagnani and advise 1) that Santos should immediately appeal to the President under article 20.1 of the IFBB Constitution, and 2) that Santos should ask for leniency and a reduction to one-year as fair and just compensation for the wrongful disqualification from the finals of the World Championships.
3. Advise Pagnani and Santos that the hearing decision is to remain confidential [will not be publicly released] pending his appeal decision.
4. This will give you some time to craft a written appeal decision.
Keep in mind that a one-year suspension would run from November 6, 2008 to November 5, 2009 inclusive. In Dubai, November 4 is the Weigh-in; November 5 is the Prejudging; November 6 is the Finals. Because his suspension must end in time for the Weigh-in, you could suspend him for "one year less a day".
I really believe that the appeal process is the best way to go.
Best regards,
Tony
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From: mohd abdulla <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Respond to the IFBB Corporation DC Report
To: "IFBB" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "hussin alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>, "Axel Bauer" <axel.bauer@chello.at>, "'Wanda Tierney'" <wanda.tierney@ukonline.co.uk>, "wada" <emiliano.simonelli@wada-ama.org>, "wada" <Kerwin.Clarke@wada-ama.org>, "wada" <marilyn.malenfant@wada-ama.org>, "Mauricio de Arruda" <mauricio@santonja.com>, "Sultan Bin Mejrin" <binmejren@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, 24 July, 2009, 5:25 AM
Dear. Mr. William Tierney,
Please see my reply to your email dated 22.07.2009, and I hope I get the answer of my question. I should not respond to your e-mail, but my conduct, personality, speciality and ethics allow me to respond.
You must know that I am an Executive Vice President for ABBF, which recognized by OCA, and I have no more link with IFBB.I respect any decision from OCA, and not from IFBB.
As you mentioned, the IFBB is a Signatory to the WADA Code and, through its anti-doping rules, conforms to the Code.
Sorry to tell you that you wrong, and the IFBB is not following the WADA Anti-Doping Rules, because:
1. Why IFBB hide the doping result of Jose Santos from Brazil. Please see Mr. Tony blinn e-mail to Rafael.
2. Why you do random doping test of top sex by testing 2 only in each category – you must test top three, the medalist and then random for the others in each category, you are doing this during in the IFBB world Men's Bodybuilding Championship, do you know why? I will answer you to reduce your positive cases.
3. Why IFBB did not ask for “B” samples, when the Tunisia laboratory rejected the 2 samples due to the quantity of urine in “A” was not sufficient to analyze, due to a serious mistake which IFBB Medical Committee made.
In spite that the ABBF do the top six doping test which means that in each championship 54 will be tested, and all athletes must be tested 4 weeks of the championship, and they must show the doping certificate on the Weighing –In day, NOW TELL ME WHO IS FOLLOWING THE WADA RULES IFBB, or ABBF?
4. Why IFBB medical team don’t know the amount of urine to be collected in each bottle “A” & “B”, as per the WADA rules the "A" sample bottle must contain minimum 50 ml and "B" sample bottle 25 ml. IFBB medical committee team make a big nad serious mistake, and violate the WADA doping rules during the 62nd IFBB Men’s Bodybuilding Championship in Bahrain on 6th of November 2008.
5. If you are following the WADA rules, why you reduced the suspension of 2 athletes from QATAR (Ali Tabrizi, and Kamal Abdulsalam) in the year of 2003 from 2 years to 9 months, and with the penalty of 10.000 US $ per each,
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME ABOUT THIS SERIOUS VIOLATION, AND BASED ON WHICH ARTICLES IN THE IFBB DOIPNT RULES AND WADA RULES.
6. Again you reduced the life banned of on the above athlete ( Kamal ) from life banned to 8 month in order to participate in 2008 IFBB Championship. Again can you explain to me in which constitution and article this action written in which IFBB had taken its action upon? THIS IS AGIANST THE WADA RULES, AND VERY SERIOUS VIOLATION.
7. What action IFBB had taken against Egypt Bodybuilding Federation:
• Violated doping from the year of 2000 – 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 World Games, and IFBB World Championship, 2006, 2007, and 2008. They failed 9 years continues doping test. WHAT ACTION IFBB TAKEN, SORY TO TELL YOU NOTHING, BECAUSE IFBB TAKING EGYPT SIDE. WHY???????????
• Egypt athlete Yousry Al Sayed was tested positive in the year of 2002 in IFBB championship in Cairo – Egypt ( 1ST Offence ). Then tested positive in the year of 2005 in World Games in Dasburg – Germany ( 2nd Offence ), and how come he participated in the 41st IFBB World Men’s Bodybuilding Championship in Check Republic. He supposed to be banned for life. How come he participated in this event, and again he tested positive ( 3rd Offence ). CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IN WHICH CONSTITUTION AND WHICH ARTICLES SUCH RULES WILL ALLOW HIM TO PARTICIPATE? ONLY IN CORPORATUION CONSTITUTION.
THIS IS THE MOST SERIOUS DOPING VIOALTION WHICH IFBB
DID ,BY NOT TAKE ANY ACTION WHICH IS AGAINST THE WADA
RULES.
8. Why you removed the suspension of Qatar Bodybuilding Federation, and it was approved by your president Rafael Santonja in ABBF Congress in China in the month of August 2007, and he ( IFBB President ) supported ABBF decision very highly. For your kind information all of these DOCUMENTED. Not only this the IFBB President approved ABBF decision in IFBB Congress in the same year ( October 2007 ) in Jeju - Korea in IFBB Congress, and IFBB send the Qatar team back, and did not allow them to participate in the championship.
WHY IFBB DID NOT ALLOW THE QATAR TEAM TO PARTICIPATE IN 61st IFBB MEN'S BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIP IN JEJU IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER 2007, AND IFBB SEND THE QATAR TEAM BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY. CAN YOU ASNWER THIS QUESTION, WHY YOU SEND THE TEAM BACK? AND WHY IN THE YEAR OF 2008 AFTER THE QATAR PRESIDENT WITH ADEL FAHEEM WENT TO MADRID AND MET RAFAEL SANTONJA, THEN HE ( RAFAEL ) REMOVED ALL THE SUSPENSION, IT IS A BIG QUESTION MARKS ????????????????????????????????????? Yes I was the chairman of the hearing committee for the 3 athletes from China Hong Kong, and with my committee , WE GAVE OVER PROPOSAL TO ABBF PRESIDENT IN 2005, JUST PROPOSAL, AND WE DID NOT TOOK ANY ACTION, WE FOUND THAT THEY ARE NOT CRIMINALS, AND WE DID NOT BY PASS THE LAW. BUT IFBB DID WHEN HE ALLOWED QATAR ATHLETE KAMAL ABDULSALAM TO PARTICPATE IN IFBB EVENT WHILE UNDER SUSPENSION, WHY IFBB DID NOT ASK ABBF, AND IFBB PRESIDENT WAS FULLY AWARE OF THIS ATHELETE. NOT ONLY THIS IN DECEMBER 2007, HE PARTICIPATED IN UNSANCTIONED CHAMPIONSHIP IN USA, AND MR. DOUGLESS THE PRESIDENT OF THAILAND BODYBUILDING FEDEARTION WROTE SEVERAL LETTERS TO RAFAEL SANTONJA – IFBB PRESIDENT ABOUT THIS SERIOUS ISSUE BUT TILL DATED HE IS QUITE AND DID NOT ANSWER MR. DOUGLESS. AND YOU ARE ASKING ME WHY I WAS SILENT WHEN THE HONG KONG ATHELTE PARTICIPATED IN 2005 IN IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP WHILE UNDR SUSPENTION. FOR YOUR KIND INFORAMTION, I DID NOT ATTEN THIS CHAMPIONSHIP, AND HOW CAN I KNOW HE PARTICIPATED. IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF IFBB TO CHECK THE POSITIVE CASES IN ALL INTERCONTINENATL FEDEERATION AND MONITORING THEM. IT IS IFBB MISTAKE IF HE WAS ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE, AND THIS MEAN THAT YOUR MEDICAL TEAM IS NOT QUALIFIED, AND IFBB DON’T FOLLOW THE DOPING RULES. ALL OF THE INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION MONITORING DOPING EXCEPT IFBB, ANDWHY NOT IFBB, THE ANSWER IS VEERY SIMPLE, BECAUSE IT IS A CORPORATION AND NOT FEDERATION, AND NOT REDGSTERED AS FEDERATION, AND NOT RECOGNIZED BY IOC. THEREFORE VIOLATE THE DOPING AND WADA RULES.
TO PROVE THAT IFBB IS VIOLATING THE DOPING AND NOT FOLLOWING THE WAD ANTI-DOPING RULES, PLEASE SE THE BELOW, AN EMAIL FRO MR. TONY BLINN TO RAFAEL SANTONJA TO HIDE THE BRAZILIAN ATHELTE DOPING RESULTS:
Mohamed Abdulrahim Abdulla
Executive Vice President for ABBF
Выше сказанное подтверждают много документов, среди которых и эти письма руководителей ИФББ:
Tony Blinn <tblinn@ifbbpro.com> wrote:
From: "Tony Blinn" <tblinn@ifbbpro.com>
To: "Dr. Rafael SANTONJA" <internacional@santonja.com>
CC: "Mag. Axel BAUER" <axel.bauer@chello.at>,
"Paul CHUA, DSM" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>,
"Prof. Dr. Eduardo H. De ROSE" <ehderose@terra.com.br>,
"Prof. Mauricio de Arruda CAMPOS" <mauricio@santonja.com>
Subject: FW: RES: jose carlos santos
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:46:10 -0800
Dear Rafael,
Further to my e-mail below, I should have mentioned that, at first glance, I'd pick option #1. I believe the IFBB Anti-Doping Committee is not empowered or authorized to make decisions that are outside the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules and WADA Code. This committee, in my opinion, must only operate within the narrow confines of the aforementioned Rules and WADC. To me, this is the proper and right thing to do.
The right to a constitutional appeal directly to the IFBB President is every member's right and, to allow this to go forward is to show how well our democracy works. Only the President should have the right to reduce Santos' suspension to a period other than what's called for in the Rules.
Therefore, I would suggest the following course of action:
1. Allow the hearing decision and two-year suspension from the ADC to stand as is.
2. Send this decision to Santos via Pagnani and advise 1) that Santos should immediately appeal to the President under article 20.1 of the IFBB Constitution, and 2) that Santos should ask for leniency and a reduction to one-year as fair and just compensation for the wrongful disqualification from the finals of the World Championships.
3. Advise Pagnani and Santos that the hearing decision is to remain confidential [will not be publicly released] pending his appeal decision.
4. This will give you some time to craft a written appeal decision.
Keep in mind that a one-year suspension would run from November 6, 2008 to November 5, 2009 inclusive. In Dubai, November 4 is the Weigh-in; November 5 is the Prejudging; November 6 is the Finals. Because his suspension must end in time for the Weigh-in, you could suspend him for "one year less a day".
I really believe that the appeal process is the best way to go.
Best regards,
Tony
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Blinn [mailto:tblinn@ifbbpro.com]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:38 AM
To: 'IFBB'
Cc: Mag. Axel BAUER; Pamela KAGAN; Prof. Dr. Eduardo H. De ROSE; Prof. Mauricio de Arruda CAMPOS
Subject: RE: RES: jose carlos santos
Dear Rafael,
Given the unique circumstances, your "exception" is most welcome.
In my opinion, may I suggest we act as follows:
OPTION #1:
Apply the WADA Code and IFBB Anti-Doping Rules, suspend Santos for two years, advise him to appeal to the IFBB President (as is his constitutional right), strike an ad hoc appeal committee, which would overturn the hearing decision and render an appeal decision to reduce the suspension to one year.
OPTION #2:
Apply the WADA Code and IFBB Anti-Doping Rules in the hearing decision, state why he cannot succeed in his petition for relief under Articles 10.5.1 and 10.5.2 (the reason why should be obvious to all and I strongly believe we shouldn't play with this), but, when it comes to the suspension part of the decision, reduce the suspension to one year based on "exceptional circumstances". Of course, we will have to state what these circumstances are in a way that is acceptable from a "justice has been done" point of view.
I don't believe WADA would agree with such a decision; however, even more important than WADA, we have to do what's in the best interests of the IFBB first and foremost. And we all seem to agree that it's not in our best interests to suspend Mr. Santos for two years.
Best regards,
Tony
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Он пишет о многочисленных случаях нарушений правил ВАДА руководителями ИФББ, о сокрытии результатов по допингу, о манипуляциях с наказаниями за допинг.
Он акцентирует обиды спортсменов, когда выяснилось, сто спортивная федерации ИФББ не существует и это лишь частная коммерческая фирма. И виноват в этом владелец фирмы РАФАЭЛЬ САНТОХА и его подручные:
From: mohd abdulla <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Respond to the IFBB Corporation DC Report
To: "IFBB" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "hussin alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>, "Axel Bauer" <axel.bauer@chello.at>, "'Wanda Tierney'" <wanda.tierney@ukonline.co.uk>, "wada" <emiliano.simonelli@wada-ama.org>, "wada" <Kerwin.Clarke@wada-ama.org>, "wada" <marilyn.malenfant@wada-ama.org>, "Mauricio de Arruda" <mauricio@santonja.com>, "Sultan Bin Mejrin" <binmejren@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, 24 July, 2009, 5:25 AM
Dear. Mr. William Tierney,
Please see my reply to your email dated 22.07.2009, and I hope I get the answer of my question. I should not respond to your e-mail, but my conduct, personality, speciality and ethics allow me to respond.
You must know that I am an Executive Vice President for ABBF, which recognized by OCA, and I have no more link with IFBB.I respect any decision from OCA, and not from IFBB.
As you mentioned, the IFBB is a Signatory to the WADA Code and, through its anti-doping rules, conforms to the Code.
Sorry to tell you that you wrong, and the IFBB is not following the WADA Anti-Doping Rules, because:
1. Why IFBB hide the doping result of Jose Santos from Brazil. Please see Mr. Tony blinn e-mail to Rafael.
2. Why you do random doping test of top sex by testing 2 only in each category – you must test top three, the medalist and then random for the others in each category, you are doing this during in the IFBB world Men's Bodybuilding Championship, do you know why? I will answer you to reduce your positive cases.
3. Why IFBB did not ask for “B” samples, when the Tunisia laboratory rejected the 2 samples due to the quantity of urine in “A” was not sufficient to analyze, due to a serious mistake which IFBB Medical Committee made.
In spite that the ABBF do the top six doping test which means that in each championship 54 will be tested, and all athletes must be tested 4 weeks of the championship, and they must show the doping certificate on the Weighing –In day, NOW TELL ME WHO IS FOLLOWING THE WADA RULES IFBB, or ABBF?
4. Why IFBB medical team don’t know the amount of urine to be collected in each bottle “A” & “B”, as per the WADA rules the "A" sample bottle must contain minimum 50 ml and "B" sample bottle 25 ml. IFBB medical committee team make a big nad serious mistake, and violate the WADA doping rules during the 62nd IFBB Men’s Bodybuilding Championship in Bahrain on 6th of November 2008.
5. If you are following the WADA rules, why you reduced the suspension of 2 athletes from QATAR (Ali Tabrizi, and Kamal Abdulsalam) in the year of 2003 from 2 years to 9 months, and with the penalty of 10.000 US $ per each,
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME ABOUT THIS SERIOUS VIOLATION, AND BASED ON WHICH ARTICLES IN THE IFBB DOIPNT RULES AND WADA RULES.
6. Again you reduced the life banned of on the above athlete ( Kamal ) from life banned to 8 month in order to participate in 2008 IFBB Championship. Again can you explain to me in which constitution and article this action written in which IFBB had taken its action upon? THIS IS AGIANST THE WADA RULES, AND VERY SERIOUS VIOLATION.
7. What action IFBB had taken against Egypt Bodybuilding Federation:
• Violated doping from the year of 2000 – 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 World Games, and IFBB World Championship, 2006, 2007, and 2008. They failed 9 years continues doping test. WHAT ACTION IFBB TAKEN, SORY TO TELL YOU NOTHING, BECAUSE IFBB TAKING EGYPT SIDE. WHY???????????
• Egypt athlete Yousry Al Sayed was tested positive in the year of 2002 in IFBB championship in Cairo – Egypt ( 1ST Offence ). Then tested positive in the year of 2005 in World Games in Dasburg – Germany ( 2nd Offence ), and how come he participated in the 41st IFBB World Men’s Bodybuilding Championship in Check Republic. He supposed to be banned for life. How come he participated in this event, and again he tested positive ( 3rd Offence ). CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IN WHICH CONSTITUTION AND WHICH ARTICLES SUCH RULES WILL ALLOW HIM TO PARTICIPATE? ONLY IN CORPORATUION CONSTITUTION.
THIS IS THE MOST SERIOUS DOPING VIOALTION WHICH IFBB
DID ,BY NOT TAKE ANY ACTION WHICH IS AGAINST THE WADA
RULES.
8. Why you removed the suspension of Qatar Bodybuilding Federation, and it was approved by your president Rafael Santonja in ABBF Congress in China in the month of August 2007, and he ( IFBB President ) supported ABBF decision very highly. For your kind information all of these DOCUMENTED. Not only this the IFBB President approved ABBF decision in IFBB Congress in the same year ( October 2007 ) in Jeju - Korea in IFBB Congress, and IFBB send the Qatar team back, and did not allow them to participate in the championship.
WHY IFBB DID NOT ALLOW THE QATAR TEAM TO PARTICIPATE IN 61st IFBB MEN'S BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIP IN JEJU IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER 2007, AND IFBB SEND THE QATAR TEAM BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY. CAN YOU ASNWER THIS QUESTION, WHY YOU SEND THE TEAM BACK? AND WHY IN THE YEAR OF 2008 AFTER THE QATAR PRESIDENT WITH ADEL FAHEEM WENT TO MADRID AND MET RAFAEL SANTONJA, THEN HE ( RAFAEL ) REMOVED ALL THE SUSPENSION, IT IS A BIG QUESTION MARKS ????????????????????????????????????? Yes I was the chairman of the hearing committee for the 3 athletes from China Hong Kong, and with my committee , WE GAVE OVER PROPOSAL TO ABBF PRESIDENT IN 2005, JUST PROPOSAL, AND WE DID NOT TOOK ANY ACTION, WE FOUND THAT THEY ARE NOT CRIMINALS, AND WE DID NOT BY PASS THE LAW. BUT IFBB DID WHEN HE ALLOWED QATAR ATHLETE KAMAL ABDULSALAM TO PARTICPATE IN IFBB EVENT WHILE UNDER SUSPENSION, WHY IFBB DID NOT ASK ABBF, AND IFBB PRESIDENT WAS FULLY AWARE OF THIS ATHELETE. NOT ONLY THIS IN DECEMBER 2007, HE PARTICIPATED IN UNSANCTIONED CHAMPIONSHIP IN USA, AND MR. DOUGLESS THE PRESIDENT OF THAILAND BODYBUILDING FEDEARTION WROTE SEVERAL LETTERS TO RAFAEL SANTONJA – IFBB PRESIDENT ABOUT THIS SERIOUS ISSUE BUT TILL DATED HE IS QUITE AND DID NOT ANSWER MR. DOUGLESS. AND YOU ARE ASKING ME WHY I WAS SILENT WHEN THE HONG KONG ATHELTE PARTICIPATED IN 2005 IN IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP WHILE UNDR SUSPENTION. FOR YOUR KIND INFORAMTION, I DID NOT ATTEN THIS CHAMPIONSHIP, AND HOW CAN I KNOW HE PARTICIPATED. IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF IFBB TO CHECK THE POSITIVE CASES IN ALL INTERCONTINENATL FEDEERATION AND MONITORING THEM. IT IS IFBB MISTAKE IF HE WAS ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE, AND THIS MEAN THAT YOUR MEDICAL TEAM IS NOT QUALIFIED, AND IFBB DON’T FOLLOW THE DOPING RULES. ALL OF THE INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION MONITORING DOPING EXCEPT IFBB, ANDWHY NOT IFBB, THE ANSWER IS VEERY SIMPLE, BECAUSE IT IS A CORPORATION AND NOT FEDERATION, AND NOT REDGSTERED AS FEDERATION, AND NOT RECOGNIZED BY IOC. THEREFORE VIOLATE THE DOPING AND WADA RULES.
TO PROVE THAT IFBB IS VIOLATING THE DOPING AND NOT FOLLOWING THE WAD ANTI-DOPING RULES, PLEASE SE THE BELOW, AN EMAIL FRO MR. TONY BLINN TO RAFAEL SANTONJA TO HIDE THE BRAZILIAN ATHELTE DOPING RESULTS:
Mohamed Abdulrahim Abdulla
Executive Vice President for ABBF
Выше сказанное подтверждают много документов, среди которых и эти письма руководителей ИФББ:
Tony Blinn <tblinn@ifbbpro.com> wrote:
From: "Tony Blinn" <tblinn@ifbbpro.com>
To: "Dr. Rafael SANTONJA" <internacional@santonja.com>
CC: "Mag. Axel BAUER" <axel.bauer@chello.at>,
"Paul CHUA, DSM" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>,
"Prof. Dr. Eduardo H. De ROSE" <ehderose@terra.com.br>,
"Prof. Mauricio de Arruda CAMPOS" <mauricio@santonja.com>
Subject: FW: RES: jose carlos santos
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:46:10 -0800
Dear Rafael,
Further to my e-mail below, I should have mentioned that, at first glance, I'd pick option #1. I believe the IFBB Anti-Doping Committee is not empowered or authorized to make decisions that are outside the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules and WADA Code. This committee, in my opinion, must only operate within the narrow confines of the aforementioned Rules and WADC. To me, this is the proper and right thing to do.
The right to a constitutional appeal directly to the IFBB President is every member's right and, to allow this to go forward is to show how well our democracy works. Only the President should have the right to reduce Santos' suspension to a period other than what's called for in the Rules.
Therefore, I would suggest the following course of action:
1. Allow the hearing decision and two-year suspension from the ADC to stand as is.
2. Send this decision to Santos via Pagnani and advise 1) that Santos should immediately appeal to the President under article 20.1 of the IFBB Constitution, and 2) that Santos should ask for leniency and a reduction to one-year as fair and just compensation for the wrongful disqualification from the finals of the World Championships.
3. Advise Pagnani and Santos that the hearing decision is to remain confidential [will not be publicly released] pending his appeal decision.
4. This will give you some time to craft a written appeal decision.
Keep in mind that a one-year suspension would run from November 6, 2008 to November 5, 2009 inclusive. In Dubai, November 4 is the Weigh-in; November 5 is the Prejudging; November 6 is the Finals. Because his suspension must end in time for the Weigh-in, you could suspend him for "one year less a day".
I really believe that the appeal process is the best way to go.
Best regards,
Tony
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Blinn [mailto:tblinn@ifbbpro.com]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:38 AM
To: 'IFBB'
Cc: Mag. Axel BAUER; Pamela KAGAN; Prof. Dr. Eduardo H. De ROSE; Prof. Mauricio de Arruda CAMPOS
Subject: RE: RES: jose carlos santos
Dear Rafael,
Given the unique circumstances, your "exception" is most welcome.
In my opinion, may I suggest we act as follows:
OPTION #1:
Apply the WADA Code and IFBB Anti-Doping Rules, suspend Santos for two years, advise him to appeal to the IFBB President (as is his constitutional right), strike an ad hoc appeal committee, which would overturn the hearing decision and render an appeal decision to reduce the suspension to one year.
OPTION #2:
Apply the WADA Code and IFBB Anti-Doping Rules in the hearing decision, state why he cannot succeed in his petition for relief under Articles 10.5.1 and 10.5.2 (the reason why should be obvious to all and I strongly believe we shouldn't play with this), but, when it comes to the suspension part of the decision, reduce the suspension to one year based on "exceptional circumstances". Of course, we will have to state what these circumstances are in a way that is acceptable from a "justice has been done" point of view.
I don't believe WADA would agree with such a decision; however, even more important than WADA, we have to do what's in the best interests of the IFBB first and foremost. And we all seem to agree that it's not in our best interests to suspend Mr. Santos for two years.
Best regards,
Tony
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From: IFBB [mailto:internacional@santonja.com]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:17 AM
To: eduardo henrique de rose; tblinn@ifbbpro.com; 'Pamela KAGAN'; 'Prof. Mauricio de Arruda CAMPOS'; 'Mag. Axel BAUER'
Subject: Re: RES: jose carlos santos
Dear Members of the Anti Doping Commission:
You know that you have my full respect and trust regarding your decisions, and that I never interfere on your efficient work.
Let me make an exception in the case of Jose Carlos Santos.
I think that everybody is sharing the same feelings.
I was specially moved reminding the previous misunderstanding in the Malaysia World Championships.
I believe it would be advisable to have a shorter period of suspension with a reinstatement test, or something similar.
I leave this in your capable hands, but I wished to share with you these feelings.
Best regards,
Rafael
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From: mohd abdulla <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Respond to the IFBB Corporation DC Report
To: "IFBB" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "hussin alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>, "Axel Bauer" <axel.bauer@chello.at>, "'Wanda Tierney'" <wanda.tierney@ukonline.co.uk>, "wada" <emiliano.simonelli@wada-ama.org>, "wada" <Kerwin.Clarke@wada-ama.org>, "wada" <marilyn.malenfant@wada-ama.org>, "Mauricio de Arruda" <mauricio@santonja.com>, "Sultan Bin Mejrin" <binmejren@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, 24 July, 2009, 5:25 AM
Dear. Mr. William Tierney,
Please see my reply to your email dated 22.07.2009, and I hope I get the answer of my question. I should not respond to your e-mail, but my conduct, personality, speciality and ethics allow me to respond.
You must know that I am an Executive Vice President for ABBF, which recognized by OCA, and I have no more link with IFBB.I respect any decision from OCA, and not from IFBB.
As you mentioned, the IFBB is a Signatory to the WADA Code and, through its anti-doping rules, conforms to the Code.
Sorry to tell you that you wrong, and the IFBB is not following the WADA Anti-Doping Rules, because:
1. Why IFBB hide the doping result of Jose Santos from Brazil. Please see Mr. Tony blinn e-mail to Rafael.
2. Why you do random doping test of top sex by testing 2 only in each category – you must test top three, the medalist and then random for the others in each category, you are doing this during in the IFBB world Men's Bodybuilding Championship, do you know why? I will answer you to reduce your positive cases.
3. Why IFBB did not ask for “B” samples, when the Tunisia laboratory rejected the 2 samples due to the quantity of urine in “A” was not sufficient to analyze, due to a serious mistake which IFBB Medical Committee made.
In spite that the ABBF do the top six doping test which means that in each championship 54 will be tested, and all athletes must be tested 4 weeks of the championship, and they must show the doping certificate on the Weighing –In day, NOW TELL ME WHO IS FOLLOWING THE WADA RULES IFBB, or ABBF?
4. Why IFBB medical team don’t know the amount of urine to be collected in each bottle “A” & “B”, as per the WADA rules the "A" sample bottle must contain minimum 50 ml and "B" sample bottle 25 ml. IFBB medical committee team make a big nad serious mistake, and violate the WADA doping rules during the 62nd IFBB Men’s Bodybuilding Championship in Bahrain on 6th of November 2008.
5. If you are following the WADA rules, why you reduced the suspension of 2 athletes from QATAR (Ali Tabrizi, and Kamal Abdulsalam) in the year of 2003 from 2 years to 9 months, and with the penalty of 10.000 US $ per each,
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME ABOUT THIS SERIOUS VIOLATION, AND BASED ON WHICH ARTICLES IN THE IFBB DOIPNT RULES AND WADA RULES.
6. Again you reduced the life banned of on the above athlete ( Kamal ) from life banned to 8 month in order to participate in 2008 IFBB Championship. Again can you explain to me in which constitution and article this action written in which IFBB had taken its action upon? THIS IS AGIANST THE WADA RULES, AND VERY SERIOUS VIOLATION.
7. What action IFBB had taken against Egypt Bodybuilding Federation:
• Violated doping from the year of 2000 – 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 World Games, and IFBB World Championship, 2006, 2007, and 2008. They failed 9 years continues doping test. WHAT ACTION IFBB TAKEN, SORY TO TELL YOU NOTHING, BECAUSE IFBB TAKING EGYPT SIDE. WHY???????????
• Egypt athlete Yousry Al Sayed was tested positive in the year of 2002 in IFBB championship in Cairo – Egypt ( 1ST Offence ). Then tested positive in the year of 2005 in World Games in Dasburg – Germany ( 2nd Offence ), and how come he participated in the 41st IFBB World Men’s Bodybuilding Championship in Check Republic. He supposed to be banned for life. How come he participated in this event, and again he tested positive ( 3rd Offence ). CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IN WHICH CONSTITUTION AND WHICH ARTICLES SUCH RULES WILL ALLOW HIM TO PARTICIPATE? ONLY IN CORPORATUION CONSTITUTION.
THIS IS THE MOST SERIOUS DOPING VIOALTION WHICH IFBB
DID ,BY NOT TAKE ANY ACTION WHICH IS AGAINST THE WADA
RULES.
8. Why you removed the suspension of Qatar Bodybuilding Federation, and it was approved by your president Rafael Santonja in ABBF Congress in China in the month of August 2007, and he ( IFBB President ) supported ABBF decision very highly. For your kind information all of these DOCUMENTED. Not only this the IFBB President approved ABBF decision in IFBB Congress in the same year ( October 2007 ) in Jeju - Korea in IFBB Congress, and IFBB send the Qatar team back, and did not allow them to participate in the championship.
WHY IFBB DID NOT ALLOW THE QATAR TEAM TO PARTICIPATE IN 61st IFBB MEN'S BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIP IN JEJU IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER 2007, AND IFBB SEND THE QATAR TEAM BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY. CAN YOU ASNWER THIS QUESTION, WHY YOU SEND THE TEAM BACK? AND WHY IN THE YEAR OF 2008 AFTER THE QATAR PRESIDENT WITH ADEL FAHEEM WENT TO MADRID AND MET RAFAEL SANTONJA, THEN HE ( RAFAEL ) REMOVED ALL THE SUSPENSION, IT IS A BIG QUESTION MARKS ????????????????????????????????????? Yes I was the chairman of the hearing committee for the 3 athletes from China Hong Kong, and with my committee , WE GAVE OVER PROPOSAL TO ABBF PRESIDENT IN 2005, JUST PROPOSAL, AND WE DID NOT TOOK ANY ACTION, WE FOUND THAT THEY ARE NOT CRIMINALS, AND WE DID NOT BY PASS THE LAW. BUT IFBB DID WHEN HE ALLOWED QATAR ATHLETE KAMAL ABDULSALAM TO PARTICPATE IN IFBB EVENT WHILE UNDER SUSPENSION, WHY IFBB DID NOT ASK ABBF, AND IFBB PRESIDENT WAS FULLY AWARE OF THIS ATHELETE. NOT ONLY THIS IN DECEMBER 2007, HE PARTICIPATED IN UNSANCTIONED CHAMPIONSHIP IN USA, AND MR. DOUGLESS THE PRESIDENT OF THAILAND BODYBUILDING FEDEARTION WROTE SEVERAL LETTERS TO RAFAEL SANTONJA – IFBB PRESIDENT ABOUT THIS SERIOUS ISSUE BUT TILL DATED HE IS QUITE AND DID NOT ANSWER MR. DOUGLESS. AND YOU ARE ASKING ME WHY I WAS SILENT WHEN THE HONG KONG ATHELTE PARTICIPATED IN 2005 IN IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP WHILE UNDR SUSPENTION. FOR YOUR KIND INFORAMTION, I DID NOT ATTEN THIS CHAMPIONSHIP, AND HOW CAN I KNOW HE PARTICIPATED. IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF IFBB TO CHECK THE POSITIVE CASES IN ALL INTERCONTINENATL FEDEERATION AND MONITORING THEM. IT IS IFBB MISTAKE IF HE WAS ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE, AND THIS MEAN THAT YOUR MEDICAL TEAM IS NOT QUALIFIED, AND IFBB DON’T FOLLOW THE DOPING RULES. ALL OF THE INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION MONITORING DOPING EXCEPT IFBB, ANDWHY NOT IFBB, THE ANSWER IS VEERY SIMPLE, BECAUSE IT IS A CORPORATION AND NOT FEDERATION, AND NOT REDGSTERED AS FEDERATION, AND NOT RECOGNIZED BY IOC. THEREFORE VIOLATE THE DOPING AND WADA RULES.
TO PROVE THAT IFBB IS VIOLATING THE DOPING AND NOT FOLLOWING THE WAD ANTI-DOPING RULES, PLEASE SE THE BELOW, AN EMAIL FRO MR. TONY BLINN TO RAFAEL SANTONJA TO HIDE THE BRAZILIAN ATHELTE DOPING RESULTS:
Mohamed Abdulrahim Abdulla
Executive Vice President for ABBF
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Tony Blinn <tblinn@ifbbpro.com> wrote:
From: "Tony Blinn" <tblinn@ifbbpro.com>
To: "Dr. Rafael SANTONJA" <internacional@santonja.com>
CC: "Mag. Axel BAUER" <axel.bauer@chello.at>,
"Paul CHUA, DSM" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>,
"Prof. Dr. Eduardo H. De ROSE" <ehderose@terra.com.br>,
"Prof. Mauricio de Arruda CAMPOS" <mauricio@santonja.com>
Subject: FW: RES: jose carlos santos
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:46:10 -0800
Dear Rafael,
Further to my e-mail below, I should have mentioned that, at first glance, I'd pick option #1. I believe the IFBB Anti-Doping Committee is not empowered or authorized to make decisions that are outside the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules and WADA Code. This committee, in my opinion, must only operate within the narrow confines of the aforementioned Rules and WADC. To me, this is the proper and right thing to do.
The right to a constitutional appeal directly to the IFBB President is every member's right and, to allow this to go forward is to show how well our democracy works. Only the President should have the right to reduce Santos' suspension to a period other than what's called for in the Rules.
Therefore, I would suggest the following course of action:
1. Allow the hearing decision and two-year suspension from the ADC to stand as is.
2. Send this decision to Santos via Pagnani and advise 1) that Santos should immediately appeal to the President under article 20.1 of the IFBB Constitution, and 2) that Santos should ask for leniency and a reduction to one-year as fair and just compensation for the wrongful disqualification from the finals of the World Championships.
3. Advise Pagnani and Santos that the hearing decision is to remain confidential [will not be publicly released] pending his appeal decision.
4. This will give you some time to craft a written appeal decision.
Keep in mind that a one-year suspension would run from November 6, 2008 to November 5, 2009 inclusive. In Dubai, November 4 is the Weigh-in; November 5 is the Prejudging; November 6 is the Finals. Because his suspension must end in time for the Weigh-in, you could suspend him for "one year less a day".
I really believe that the appeal process is the best way to go.
Best regards,
Tony
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Blinn [mailto:tblinn@ifbbpro.com]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:38 AM
To: 'IFBB'
Cc: Mag. Axel BAUER; Pamela KAGAN; Prof. Dr. Eduardo H. De ROSE; Prof. Mauricio de Arruda CAMPOS
Subject: RE: RES: jose carlos santos
Dear Rafael,
Given the unique circumstances, your "exception" is most welcome.
In my opinion, may I suggest we act as follows:
OPTION #1:
Apply the WADA Code and IFBB Anti-Doping Rules, suspend Santos for two years, advise him to appeal to the IFBB President (as is his constitutional right), strike an ad hoc appeal committee, which would overturn the hearing decision and render an appeal decision to reduce the suspension to one year.
OPTION #2:
Apply the WADA Code and IFBB Anti-Doping Rules in the hearing decision, state why he cannot succeed in his petition for relief under Articles 10.5.1 and 10.5.2 (the reason why should be obvious to all and I strongly believe we shouldn't play with this), but, when it comes to the suspension part of the decision, reduce the suspension to one year based on "exceptional circumstances". Of course, we will have to state what these circumstances are in a way that is acceptable from a "justice has been done" point of view.
I don't believe WADA would agree with such a decision; however, even more important than WADA, we have to do what's in the best interests of the IFBB first and foremost. And we all seem to agree that it's not in our best interests to suspend Mr. Santos for two years.
Best regards,
Tony
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-----Original Message-----
From: IFBB [mailto:internacional@santonja.com]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:17 AM
To: eduardo henrique de rose; tblinn@ifbbpro.com; 'Pamela KAGAN'; 'Prof. Mauricio de Arruda CAMPOS'; 'Mag. Axel BAUER'
Subject: Re: RES: jose carlos santos
Dear Members of the Anti Doping Commission:
You know that you have my full respect and trust regarding your decisions, and that I never interfere on your efficient work.
Let me make an exception in the case of Jose Carlos Santos.
I think that everybody is sharing the same feelings.
I was specially moved reminding the previous misunderstanding in the Malaysia World Championships.
I believe it would be advisable to have a shorter period of suspension with a reinstatement test, or something similar.
I leave this in your capable hands, but I wished to share with you these feelings.
Best regards,
Rafael
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eduardo henrique de rose escribió:
Dear Tony:
You open the door for personal comments and I was considering to do one but, because it was a case of a Brazilian athlete, I was restraining myself to do it.
We have here an athlete that was many time World Champion, was also tested many times without any problem, and we never had a problem with him before. As a matter of fact, he had a problem with as, because the only time that we try to eliminate the athletes with adverse analytical results from Friday to Sunday, we disqualified him improperly, based in a preliminary report of the lab, that confess later on that a mistake was made.By this mysterious thing of the life, the lab was in Thailand, and with the disqualification of José Carlos, the Thai athlete won the Gold Medal in the category.
In my opinion, it is time to pay him back the mistake that was made, and to deduct some time of his sanction, enough to permit him to compete in Dubai, and to avoid a sad ending of a great athlete. My recommendations would be, for this reasons, to give him a sanction of one 18 months what would permit him to compete in the next World Championship.
Regards
DR
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