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Today we received one more letter for the publication in the forum.
The Asian newspaper writes that Asia Countries say “good bye” to the private IFBB corporation.
From: mohd abdulla <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: Re: AL WAQT NEWSPAPER - BAHRAIN TODAY 01.05.09
To: "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "hussin alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 2:18 PM
DEAR ALL,
TODAY AL WAQT NEWSPAPER ABOUT OUR MEETING IN MALYSIA, 27 COUNTRIES SAID YES TO ABBF, AND SAID NO TO IFBB DECISION, IN SPITE IFBB TRYED THEIR BEST TO PREVENT GTHERING IN THIS MEETING, BUT THEY FIALED. 19 COUNTRIES PRESENT, 8 COUNTRIES SUPPORTED OFFICIAL LETTERES, 5 APPOLOGIZED (CHINA, JAPAN, INDIA, BANGLADESH AND KOREA), AND 6 WAS ABSCENT (JORDON, PALASTINE, SYRIA, LEBANON, QATAR, BAHRAIN).
MOHAMED BDULRAHIM SAID THAT WE GOT THE SUPPORT FROM THE MAJORITY OF ASIAN FEDERATION, AND THE CASE AGAINST THE IFBB WILL CONTINUE AFTER SUPPORT OF ALL THE COUNTRIES ATTENETED THE MEEETING, AND ABBF WILL NOT FOLLOW THE IFBB DECISION, BECUASE THERE IS NO FEDERATION REGISTERED AND RECOGNIZED BY IOC, BUT THERE IS IFBB REGISTERED UNDER CORPORATION.
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WFF secretary service Wrote:Today we received one more letter for the publication in the forum.
The Asian newspaper writes that Asia Countries say “good bye” to the private IFBB corporation.
From: mohd abdulla <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: Re: AL WAQT NEWSPAPER - BAHRAIN TODAY 01.05.09
To: "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "hussin alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 2:18 PM
DEAR ALL,
TODAY AL WAQT NEWSPAPER ABOUT OUR MEETING IN MALYSIA, 27 COUNTRIES SAID YES TO ABBF, AND SAID NO TO IFBB DECISION, IN SPITE IFBB TRYED THEIR BEST TO PREVENT GTHERING IN THIS MEETING, BUT THEY FIALED. 19 COUNTRIES PRESENT, 8 COUNTRIES SUPPORTED OFFICIAL LETTERES, 5 APPOLOGIZED (CHINA, JAPAN, INDIA, BANGLADESH AND KOREA), AND 6 WAS ABSCENT (JORDON, PALASTINE, SYRIA, LEBANON, QATAR, BAHRAIN).
MOHAMED BDULRAHIM SAID THAT WE GOT THE SUPPORT FROM THE MAJORITY OF ASIAN FEDERATION, AND THE CASE AGAINST THE IFBB WILL CONTINUE AFTER SUPPORT OF ALL THE COUNTRIES ATTENETED THE MEEETING, AND ABBF WILL NOT FOLLOW THE IFBB DECISION, BECUASE THERE IS NO FEDERATION REGISTERED AND RECOGNIZED BY IOC, BUT THERE IS IFBB REGISTERED UNDER CORPORATION.
that is a strong position!
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ifbbpro Wrote:Subject: IFBB OFFICIALS ARE NOW ON A BEGGING MISSION TO TRICK ASIANS
Date: Monday, 4 May, 2009, 2:56 PM
Dear Sirs,
We understand that some officials from the IFBB Corporation are going around to seek support from all our ABBF members for their injustice, cheating and dictatorship cause to disrupt the great harmony of our ABBF family.
Please be extremely careful as these people's intention is to confuse and trick you into believing of what they are preaching now. We know that you are a strong leader and that you will not be easily tricked or duped to believe the IFBB Senior Officers.
You have the right not to meet them, however, we will not give you any specific instructions as you know better about the situation in your country and the present situation of the ABBF and the IFBB corporation. Thank you.
Kind regards,
Amit Swami
Asst. Secretary-General
Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation
:roll:
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Olga Wrote:timoxa Wrote:Julianne Wrote:ifbbpro Wrote:Subject: IFBB OFFICIALS ARE NOW ON A BEGGING MISSION TO TRICK ASIANS
Date: Monday, 4 May, 2009, 2:56 PM
Dear Sirs,
We understand that some officials from the IFBB Corporation are going around to seek support from all our ABBF members for their injustice, cheating and dictatorship cause to disrupt the great harmony of our ABBF family.
Please be extremely careful as these people's intention is to confuse and trick you into believing of what they are preaching now. We know that you are a strong leader and that you will not be easily tricked or duped to believe the IFBB Senior Officers.
You have the right not to meet them, however, we will not give you any specific instructions as you know better about the situation in your country and the present situation of the ABBF and the IFBB corporation. Thank you.
Kind regards,
Amit Swami
Asst. Secretary-General
Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation
today it is not so easy to fool people as it was before.
i do not know how it will be with ifbb, but santonja is in a great shit... :oops:
hard times are coming to santonjas corporation. asia is leaving him alone. incomes go down.
that means ifbb has to catch more sportsmen with doping to improve the business.
poor bodybuilders, be ready to make japaneese "harakiri"...
he knows how to rule this business... :oops:
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IFBB SENIOR OFFICERS THIS NEW TITLE FOR IFBB WHICH WAS CALLED BEFORE AS IFBB EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, HOW THESE OFICERS CAN'T ANSWER THIS GUY IN ORDER TO WRITE IN HIS NEWS PAPER. THEY CAN'T, BECUASE THEY WILL BE MORE OPEN TO THE PEOPLE ABOUT THEIR CORRUPTION.
PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWINGS:
From: Indeerneel Dass <inderneel_htsports@yahoo.in>
Subject: Queries about IFBB
To: "ifbb" <internacional@santonja.com>, wanda.tierney@ukonline.co.uk, "abbf" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Saturday, 25 April, 2009, 4:44 PM
Dear IFBB officials,
This is my repeat e-mail, can you please answer these queries for our news paper.
1. Is IFBB a corporation registered under 4 people name?
2. Can you provide us a brief knowledge about the constitution of IFBB, what it is like.
3. As per the constitution of IFBB the executive council is deemed directors of the IFBB?Your comments.
4. When was the last meeting of the executive council held of the IFBB ? Were all the members informed about the registration of IFBB as corporation.
5. About the funding system of IFBB and who operates bank account? can we have your comments on this.
6. We have a copy of joint declaration of the IFBB between you Mr Weider. How do you rate this ?
7. Bodybuilding events organized by IFBB are they professional, corporation shows or the sports events? Your comments on this.
8. Is IFBB recognized by International Olympic Committee?
As it is already cleared by me that these quires are very important for the article and we want to have your version.
Looking forward to have your reply.
Best
Inderneel Dass
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ifbbpro Wrote:IFBB SENIOR OFFICERS THIS NEW TITLE FOR IFBB WHICH WAS CALLED BEFORE AS IFBB EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, HOW THESE OFICERS CAN'T ANSWER THIS GUY IN ORDER TO WRITE IN HIS NEWS PAPER. THEY CAN'T, BECUASE THEY WILL BE MORE OPEN TO THE PEOPLE ABOUT THEIR CORRUPTION.
PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWINGS:
From: Indeerneel Dass <inderneel_htsports@yahoo.in>
Subject: Queries about IFBB
To: "ifbb" <internacional@santonja.com>, wanda.tierney@ukonline.co.uk, "abbf" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Saturday, 25 April, 2009, 4:44 PM
Dear IFBB officials,
This is my repeat e-mail, can you please answer these queries for our news paper.
1. Is IFBB a corporation registered under 4 people name?
2. Can you provide us a brief knowledge about the constitution of IFBB, what it is like.
3. As per the constitution of IFBB the executive council is deemed directors of the IFBB?Your comments.
4. When was the last meeting of the executive council held of the IFBB ? Were all the members informed about the registration of IFBB as corporation.
5. About the funding system of IFBB and who operates bank account? can we have your comments on this.
6. We have a copy of joint declaration of the IFBB between you Mr Weider. How do you rate this ?
7. Bodybuilding events organized by IFBB are they professional, corporation shows or the sports events? Your comments on this.
8. Is IFBB recognized by International Olympic Committee?
As it is already cleared by me that these quires are very important for the article and we want to have your version.
Looking forward to have your reply.
Best
Inderneel Dass
Your question is like: how much is two plus two (2+2)?
The answer of Rafael Santocha is - 5!!! :lol:
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From: mohd abdulla <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: Read my answer in RED color and advice before sending to Mauricio.
To: "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 2:12 AM
Dear Prof. Mauricio,
Please read my answer to your email in RED color.
As you know, the IFBB is a Signatory to the WADA Code and, through its anti-doping rules, conforms to the Code. Sorry to tell you that IFBB not following the WADA rules, if yes:
1. Why you hide the doping result of Jose Santos from your country Brazil .
2. Why you do random doping test of top sex by testing 2 only ( random ) – you must test top three, the medalist and then random for the others in each category, during the IFBB world Men's Bodybuilding Championship, I will answer you to reduce your positive case.
From 19 samples you had 8 positive, and God knows how many other you are hiding. You have almost 45% positive in an event by random test, and God know if you have tested top six in each category, I grantee you that your rate will be above 60%, what a shame.
In spite the ABBF do the top six doping test which means that in each championship 54 will be tested, and the percentage of positive will be 20% or even less, and asked all to be tested 4 weeks before the championship, NOW TELL ME WHO IS FOLLOWING THE , see the different.
3. Why your medical team collect total of 50ml of urine for one athlete, and kept 25 ml in each sample bottles ( A, B ), as per the WADA rules the "A" sample bottle must contain minimum 50 ml and "B" sample bottle 25 ml. IFBB medical committee team make a big mistake, and violate the WADA doping rules.
4. if you are following the WADA rules, why you reduced the suspention of 2 athekltes from QATAR in the year of 2004 from 2 years to 9 months, and with the penalty of 10.000 US $ per each, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THIS VIOLATUION, AND BASED ON WHICH ARTICLES IN THE IFBB DOIPNT RULES AND WADA RULES.
5. Again you reduced the life banned of on the above athlete from life banned to 8 month in order to participate IN 2008 IFBB Championship. Again can you explain to me in which constitution written this action which IFBB had taken? THIS IS AGIANST THE WADA RULES.
As you are aware, the IFBB, with the assistance of WADA, is conducting an investigation into the potentially serious violation of Olympic Council of Asia anti-doping rules, IFBB anti-doping rules and the WADA Code related to the results management of thirteen adverse analytical findings from the Asian Bodybuilding Championships, Andong City , South Korea , October 7-8, 2005. Why now you are investigating, where was the IFBB in the year of 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008, and why now you are investigating? Yes I was the chairman of the hearing committee at that time and I gave full proposal reports to the ABBF president in the year of 2005, 2006.
Your involvement in this matter derives from your part as chairman of a “hearing committee” that allegedly decided, contrary to IFBB anti-doping rules and the WADA Code, to reduce the two-year suspensions to three Hong Kong bodybuilders (who were among the thirteen adverse analytical findings mentioned above) to one year so they may compete in the Asian Games, Doha, Qatar, December 8-9, 2006. I gave proposal, and as I told, you must investigate the matter with the ABBF president in the year of 2005, and 2006.. We gave our proposal, and did not make any action, AGAIN AND AGAIN I REFERE YOU THE ABBF PRESIDENT AT THAT TIME.
On July 14-15, 2008, two and one-half years after the event, at the Singapore embassy in Bangkok , Thailand , you and other officials signed “statutory declarations” that appear manufactured to justify irregularities in the results management of doping controls at the 2005 Asian Bodybuilding Championships. Yes I gave my statement, and said the fact and the truth about our hearing committee proposal, WE DID NOT VIOLATE THE WADA RULES.
Despite requests from the IFBB that you turn over all documents in your possession related to this case, you refuse to do so. You must ask the ABBF president in the year of 2005 – 2006 this question, because I gave all the reports to his office, and he should be blamed and not me. I did not refuse to give any documents, and sorry to tell that you are wrong, I answered you that I send the documents to the ABBF president's Office.
In an unrelated matter, the IFBB is also investigating a potential violation by you of the WADA Code with respect to the confidentiality and reporting of doping controls conducted at the IFBB Men’s World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships, Manama , Bahrain , November 6, 2008. IFBB Violated the WADA rules.
1. I have wrote to the laboratory in Tunisia to send all the doping results (21 Samples) to IFBB and the WADA, I have the letter which I send, and even you have the letter, because cc to you.
2. You wrote to laboratory not to send the results to Bahrain W/L & bodybuilding federation.
3. I never announce or wrote anything about doping results in Newspapers, media.
4. I became to know from your CORPORATION by sending wrong emails to us by mistake, about the hiding the doping of Brazilian athlete.
5. What action IFBB had taken against EYGPT Bodybuilding federation, which yearly they have doping cases, in World Games 2005, IFBB Men's Championship in Check Republic 2006, In Jeju – Korea 2007, and in Bahrain in 2008. THIS IS THE MOST SERIOUS DOPING VIOALTION WHICH IFBB DID NOT TAKING ANY ACTION, WHICH IS AGAINST THE WADA RULES. Can you explain this to me, I know you don't have any answer to this, because it is very clear that YOU VIOLATE THE WADA RULES BY NOT TAKING ANY ACTION.
Given the seriousness of these investigations, on behalf of the senior officers of the IFBB, I convey to you their decision to provisionally suspend you, effective this date, pending further investigation and hearing. YOU ARE TAKING ABOUT SERIOUSNESS OF THESE INVASTIGATION, WHAT YOU MEAN BY THIS, I HAVE THE WRITE TO KNOW ALL OF THESE SERIOUS MATTERS WHICH YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
THE ONE TO BE BANNED:
IS YOUR CORPORATION WHICH CALLED IFBB BY VIOLATING THE WADA RULES AS I MENTIONED ABOVE?
YOUR MEDICAL COMMITTEE WHICH THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO COLLECT TH SAMPLES.
YOU BY HIDING THE DOPING RESULTS.
YOU BANNED FROM WHAT CAN YOU EXPALIN???
I HOPE YOU CAN ANSWER ME WITHIN 7 DAYS OF MY EMAIL, IF NOT I WILL CONSULT MY LAWYER TO SUE YOU AND THE YOUR CORPORATION FOR THREATENING.
Mr. Mohamed Abdulrahim Abdulla,
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ifbbpro Wrote:From: mohd abdulla <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: Read my answer in RED color and advice before sending to Mauricio.
To: "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 2:12 AM
Dear Prof. Mauricio,
Please read my answer to your email in RED color.
As you know, the IFBB is a Signatory to the WADA Code and, through its anti-doping rules, conforms to the Code. Sorry to tell you that IFBB not following the WADA rules, if yes:
1. Why you hide the doping result of Jose Santos from your country Brazil .
2. Why you do random doping test of top sex by testing 2 only ( random ) – you must test top three, the medalist and then random for the others in each category, during the IFBB world Men's Bodybuilding Championship, I will answer you to reduce your positive case.
From 19 samples you had 8 positive, and God knows how many other you are hiding. You have almost 45% positive in an event by random test, and God know if you have tested top six in each category, I grantee you that your rate will be above 60%, what a shame.
In spite the ABBF do the top six doping test which means that in each championship 54 will be tested, and the percentage of positive will be 20% or even less, and asked all to be tested 4 weeks before the championship, NOW TELL ME WHO IS FOLLOWING THE , see the different.
3. Why your medical team collect total of 50ml of urine for one athlete, and kept 25 ml in each sample bottles ( A, B ), as per the WADA rules the "A" sample bottle must contain minimum 50 ml and "B" sample bottle 25 ml. IFBB medical committee team make a big mistake, and violate the WADA doping rules.
4. if you are following the WADA rules, why you reduced the suspention of 2 athekltes from QATAR in the year of 2004 from 2 years to 9 months, and with the penalty of 10.000 US $ per each, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THIS VIOLATUION, AND BASED ON WHICH ARTICLES IN THE IFBB DOIPNT RULES AND WADA RULES.
5. Again you reduced the life banned of on the above athlete from life banned to 8 month in order to participate IN 2008 IFBB Championship. Again can you explain to me in which constitution written this action which IFBB had taken? THIS IS AGIANST THE WADA RULES.
As you are aware, the IFBB, with the assistance of WADA, is conducting an investigation into the potentially serious violation of Olympic Council of Asia anti-doping rules, IFBB anti-doping rules and the WADA Code related to the results management of thirteen adverse analytical findings from the Asian Bodybuilding Championships, Andong City , South Korea , October 7-8, 2005. Why now you are investigating, where was the IFBB in the year of 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008, and why now you are investigating? Yes I was the chairman of the hearing committee at that time and I gave full proposal reports to the ABBF president in the year of 2005, 2006.
Your involvement in this matter derives from your part as chairman of a “hearing committee” that allegedly decided, contrary to IFBB anti-doping rules and the WADA Code, to reduce the two-year suspensions to three Hong Kong bodybuilders (who were among the thirteen adverse analytical findings mentioned above) to one year so they may compete in the Asian Games, Doha, Qatar, December 8-9, 2006. I gave proposal, and as I told, you must investigate the matter with the ABBF president in the year of 2005, and 2006.. We gave our proposal, and did not make any action, AGAIN AND AGAIN I REFERE YOU THE ABBF PRESIDENT AT THAT TIME.
On July 14-15, 2008, two and one-half years after the event, at the Singapore embassy in Bangkok , Thailand , you and other officials signed “statutory declarations” that appear manufactured to justify irregularities in the results management of doping controls at the 2005 Asian Bodybuilding Championships. Yes I gave my statement, and said the fact and the truth about our hearing committee proposal, WE DID NOT VIOLATE THE WADA RULES.
Despite requests from the IFBB that you turn over all documents in your possession related to this case, you refuse to do so. You must ask the ABBF president in the year of 2005 – 2006 this question, because I gave all the reports to his office, and he should be blamed and not me. I did not refuse to give any documents, and sorry to tell that you are wrong, I answered you that I send the documents to the ABBF president's Office.
In an unrelated matter, the IFBB is also investigating a potential violation by you of the WADA Code with respect to the confidentiality and reporting of doping controls conducted at the IFBB Men’s World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships, Manama , Bahrain , November 6, 2008. IFBB Violated the WADA rules.
1. I have wrote to the laboratory in Tunisia to send all the doping results (21 Samples) to IFBB and the WADA, I have the letter which I send, and even you have the letter, because cc to you.
2. You wrote to laboratory not to send the results to Bahrain W/L & bodybuilding federation.
3. I never announce or wrote anything about doping results in Newspapers, media.
4. I became to know from your CORPORATION by sending wrong emails to us by mistake, about the hiding the doping of Brazilian athlete.
5. What action IFBB had taken against EYGPT Bodybuilding federation, which yearly they have doping cases, in World Games 2005, IFBB Men's Championship in Check Republic 2006, In Jeju – Korea 2007, and in Bahrain in 2008. THIS IS THE MOST SERIOUS DOPING VIOALTION WHICH IFBB DID NOT TAKING ANY ACTION, WHICH IS AGAINST THE WADA RULES. Can you explain this to me, I know you don't have any answer to this, because it is very clear that YOU VIOLATE THE WADA RULES BY NOT TAKING ANY ACTION.
Given the seriousness of these investigations, on behalf of the senior officers of the IFBB, I convey to you their decision to provisionally suspend you, effective this date, pending further investigation and hearing. YOU ARE TAKING ABOUT SERIOUSNESS OF THESE INVASTIGATION, WHAT YOU MEAN BY THIS, I HAVE THE WRITE TO KNOW ALL OF THESE SERIOUS MATTERS WHICH YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
THE ONE TO BE BANNED:
IS YOUR CORPORATION WHICH CALLED IFBB BY VIOLATING THE WADA RULES AS I MENTIONED ABOVE?
YOUR MEDICAL COMMITTEE WHICH THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO COLLECT TH SAMPLES.
YOU BY HIDING THE DOPING RESULTS.
YOU BANNED FROM WHAT CAN YOU EXPALIN???
I HOPE YOU CAN ANSWER ME WITHIN 7 DAYS OF MY EMAIL, IF NOT I WILL CONSULT MY LAWYER TO SUE YOU AND THE YOUR CORPORATION FOR THREATENING.
Mr. Mohamed Abdulrahim Abdulla,
can simebody present a gun for defence for rafael santonja?
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Bumer Wrote:ifbbpro Wrote:From: mohd abdulla <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: Read my answer in RED color and advice before sending to Mauricio.
To: "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 2:12 AM
Dear Prof. Mauricio,
Please read my answer to your email in RED color.
As you know, the IFBB is a Signatory to the WADA Code and, through its anti-doping rules, conforms to the Code. Sorry to tell you that IFBB not following the WADA rules, if yes:
1. Why you hide the doping result of Jose Santos from your country Brazil .
2. Why you do random doping test of top sex by testing 2 only ( random ) – you must test top three, the medalist and then random for the others in each category, during the IFBB world Men's Bodybuilding Championship, I will answer you to reduce your positive case.
From 19 samples you had 8 positive, and God knows how many other you are hiding. You have almost 45% positive in an event by random test, and God know if you have tested top six in each category, I grantee you that your rate will be above 60%, what a shame.
In spite the ABBF do the top six doping test which means that in each championship 54 will be tested, and the percentage of positive will be 20% or even less, and asked all to be tested 4 weeks before the championship, NOW TELL ME WHO IS FOLLOWING THE , see the different.
3. Why your medical team collect total of 50ml of urine for one athlete, and kept 25 ml in each sample bottles ( A, B ), as per the WADA rules the "A" sample bottle must contain minimum 50 ml and "B" sample bottle 25 ml. IFBB medical committee team make a big mistake, and violate the WADA doping rules.
4. if you are following the WADA rules, why you reduced the suspention of 2 athekltes from QATAR in the year of 2004 from 2 years to 9 months, and with the penalty of 10.000 US $ per each, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THIS VIOLATUION, AND BASED ON WHICH ARTICLES IN THE IFBB DOIPNT RULES AND WADA RULES.
5. Again you reduced the life banned of on the above athlete from life banned to 8 month in order to participate IN 2008 IFBB Championship. Again can you explain to me in which constitution written this action which IFBB had taken? THIS IS AGIANST THE WADA RULES.
As you are aware, the IFBB, with the assistance of WADA, is conducting an investigation into the potentially serious violation of Olympic Council of Asia anti-doping rules, IFBB anti-doping rules and the WADA Code related to the results management of thirteen adverse analytical findings from the Asian Bodybuilding Championships, Andong City , South Korea , October 7-8, 2005. Why now you are investigating, where was the IFBB in the year of 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008, and why now you are investigating? Yes I was the chairman of the hearing committee at that time and I gave full proposal reports to the ABBF president in the year of 2005, 2006.
Your involvement in this matter derives from your part as chairman of a “hearing committee” that allegedly decided, contrary to IFBB anti-doping rules and the WADA Code, to reduce the two-year suspensions to three Hong Kong bodybuilders (who were among the thirteen adverse analytical findings mentioned above) to one year so they may compete in the Asian Games, Doha, Qatar, December 8-9, 2006. I gave proposal, and as I told, you must investigate the matter with the ABBF president in the year of 2005, and 2006.. We gave our proposal, and did not make any action, AGAIN AND AGAIN I REFERE YOU THE ABBF PRESIDENT AT THAT TIME.
On July 14-15, 2008, two and one-half years after the event, at the Singapore embassy in Bangkok , Thailand , you and other officials signed “statutory declarations” that appear manufactured to justify irregularities in the results management of doping controls at the 2005 Asian Bodybuilding Championships. Yes I gave my statement, and said the fact and the truth about our hearing committee proposal, WE DID NOT VIOLATE THE WADA RULES.
Despite requests from the IFBB that you turn over all documents in your possession related to this case, you refuse to do so. You must ask the ABBF president in the year of 2005 – 2006 this question, because I gave all the reports to his office, and he should be blamed and not me. I did not refuse to give any documents, and sorry to tell that you are wrong, I answered you that I send the documents to the ABBF president's Office.
In an unrelated matter, the IFBB is also investigating a potential violation by you of the WADA Code with respect to the confidentiality and reporting of doping controls conducted at the IFBB Men’s World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships, Manama , Bahrain , November 6, 2008. IFBB Violated the WADA rules.
1. I have wrote to the laboratory in Tunisia to send all the doping results (21 Samples) to IFBB and the WADA, I have the letter which I send, and even you have the letter, because cc to you.
2. You wrote to laboratory not to send the results to Bahrain W/L & bodybuilding federation.
3. I never announce or wrote anything about doping results in Newspapers, media.
4. I became to know from your CORPORATION by sending wrong emails to us by mistake, about the hiding the doping of Brazilian athlete.
5. What action IFBB had taken against EYGPT Bodybuilding federation, which yearly they have doping cases, in World Games 2005, IFBB Men's Championship in Check Republic 2006, In Jeju – Korea 2007, and in Bahrain in 2008. THIS IS THE MOST SERIOUS DOPING VIOALTION WHICH IFBB DID NOT TAKING ANY ACTION, WHICH IS AGAINST THE WADA RULES. Can you explain this to me, I know you don't have any answer to this, because it is very clear that YOU VIOLATE THE WADA RULES BY NOT TAKING ANY ACTION.
Given the seriousness of these investigations, on behalf of the senior officers of the IFBB, I convey to you their decision to provisionally suspend you, effective this date, pending further investigation and hearing. YOU ARE TAKING ABOUT SERIOUSNESS OF THESE INVASTIGATION, WHAT YOU MEAN BY THIS, I HAVE THE WRITE TO KNOW ALL OF THESE SERIOUS MATTERS WHICH YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
THE ONE TO BE BANNED:
IS YOUR CORPORATION WHICH CALLED IFBB BY VIOLATING THE WADA RULES AS I MENTIONED ABOVE?
YOUR MEDICAL COMMITTEE WHICH THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO COLLECT TH SAMPLES.
YOU BY HIDING THE DOPING RESULTS.
YOU BANNED FROM WHAT CAN YOU EXPALIN???
I HOPE YOU CAN ANSWER ME WITHIN 7 DAYS OF MY EMAIL, IF NOT I WILL CONSULT MY LAWYER TO SUE YOU AND THE YOUR CORPORATION FOR THREATENING.
Mr. Mohamed Abdulrahim Abdulla,
can simebody present a gun for defence for rafael santonja?
this is a very serious question :arrow:
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To:
International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness
Mr. Rafael Santonja
President
Calle Jaen, No.8
18020 Madrid
Spain
Dear Mr. Santonja,
Reference: Kamal Abdul Salam of Qatar
At the Men's World Bodybuilding Championships 2008 in the City of Manama, Bahrain, the Qatari athlete KAMAL ABDUL SALAM took 1st place in the category Men's Bodybuilding up to and including 85kg. Iran's athletes Mahri Ayadi took 3rd place and Aggeli Abbas 6th place in the same category.
1. At the Men's World Bodybuilding Championships 2003 in Mumbai/India Qatar's athlete Kamal Abdul Salam took 2nd place, but was later on disqualified due to Anti-Doping Rules Violation for a period of 2 years. Only 8 months after this suspension Qatar athlete Kamal Abdul Salam competed again in the Asian Championships 2004.
At the time of the Anti-Doping Rule Violation committed by Qatar athlete Kamal Abdul Salam at the Men's World Bodybuilding Championships 2003 in Mumbai/India the relevant documents containing the IFBB Rules governing doping control were:
- IFBB Constitution 2003 Edition
- IFBB Anti-Doping Program, 2002 Edition
-IFBB Directives 2002-004 and 2002-005
The sanctions on individuals stipulated in the IFBB Anti-Doping program at that time contained, that the doping offence pursuant to Article 9.1.1 of the program calls for an imposition of a suspension of 2 years for the first violation (SECOND VIOLATION: LIFE TIME SUSPENSION).
Was the athlete Kamal Abdul Salam reinstated following a proper reinstatement procedure (as per WADA) as outlined in the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules before he competed again in the Asian Championships? If not, why was he allowed to compete in the Asian Championships 2004? Who made the decision to reduce the 2 years suspension to a period of more or less 8 months? (We know that you were the No.2 person as the Executive Assistant to the IFBB President during this period).
2. In August 2007 athlete Kamal Abdul Salam had to undergo Anti-Doping Control again conducted by the Qatar Weightlifting & Bodybuilding Federation as the Anti-Doping Organization. According to the certificate of analysis of the WADA accredited laboratory in Penang/Malaysia of 30th August 2007 the sample collected from athlete Kamal Abdul Salam contained "metandienone metabolites". In spite of this adverse analytical finding (AAF), athlete Kamal Abdul Salam was entitled to compete in the Asian Championships, because the Qatar Weightlifting & Bodybuilding Federation concealed the AAF and arranged for a forged certificate to prove, that this athlete has tested negative.
In October 2007 the Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation (ABBF) conducted disciplinary measures against the Qatar Weightlifting & Bodybuilding Federation (QWBBF), which led to a suspension of QWBBF and a fine because of the submission of a forged certificate of analysis dated 20th August, 2007 pertaining to Kamal Abdul Salam together with it's purpose of cheating the ABBF.
Later on the decision of the ABBF was approved by the IFBB Executive Council and Congress in Jeju/Korea 2007. Following the proceedings QWBBF appealed to the IFBB President and the sanction imposed on QWBBF was amended by reducing the suspension to 12 months and quashing the fine.
Although athlete Kamal Abdul Salam was found positive again in August 2007 he received only a one year suspension from QWBBF, although according to the applicable Anti-Doping Rules of the IFBB for the 2nd offence a life time suspension is obligatory. How is it possible, that this athlete was allowed to compete in the Men's World Bodybuilding Championships 2008 in the City of Manama/Bahrain and subsequently in the Qatar Golden Cup? We appreciate your comments to this intolerable situation by 10 days notice.
Yours sincerely
Nasser Pouralifard
President - Iran Bodybuilding Federation
Vice-President, Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation
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ifbbpro Wrote:To:
International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness
Mr. Rafael Santonja
President
Calle Jaen, No.8
18020 Madrid
Spain
Dear Mr. Santonja,
Reference: Kamal Abdul Salam of Qatar
At the Men's World Bodybuilding Championships 2008 in the City of Manama, Bahrain, the Qatari athlete KAMAL ABDUL SALAM took 1st place in the category Men's Bodybuilding up to and including 85kg. Iran's athletes Mahri Ayadi took 3rd place and Aggeli Abbas 6th place in the same category.
1. At the Men's World Bodybuilding Championships 2003 in Mumbai/India Qatar's athlete Kamal Abdul Salam took 2nd place, but was later on disqualified due to Anti-Doping Rules Violation for a period of 2 years. Only 8 months after this suspension Qatar athlete Kamal Abdul Salam competed again in the Asian Championships 2004.
At the time of the Anti-Doping Rule Violation committed by Qatar athlete Kamal Abdul Salam at the Men's World Bodybuilding Championships 2003 in Mumbai/India the relevant documents containing the IFBB Rules governing doping control were:
- IFBB Constitution 2003 Edition
- IFBB Anti-Doping Program, 2002 Edition
-IFBB Directives 2002-004 and 2002-005
The sanctions on individuals stipulated in the IFBB Anti-Doping program at that time contained, that the doping offence pursuant to Article 9.1.1 of the program calls for an imposition of a suspension of 2 years for the first violation (SECOND VIOLATION: LIFE TIME SUSPENSION).
Was the athlete Kamal Abdul Salam reinstated following a proper reinstatement procedure (as per WADA) as outlined in the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules before he competed again in the Asian Championships? If not, why was he allowed to compete in the Asian Championships 2004? Who made the decision to reduce the 2 years suspension to a period of more or less 8 months? (We know that you were the No.2 person as the Executive Assistant to the IFBB President during this period).
2. In August 2007 athlete Kamal Abdul Salam had to undergo Anti-Doping Control again conducted by the Qatar Weightlifting & Bodybuilding Federation as the Anti-Doping Organization. According to the certificate of analysis of the WADA accredited laboratory in Penang/Malaysia of 30th August 2007 the sample collected from athlete Kamal Abdul Salam contained "metandienone metabolites". In spite of this adverse analytical finding (AAF), athlete Kamal Abdul Salam was entitled to compete in the Asian Championships, because the Qatar Weightlifting & Bodybuilding Federation concealed the AAF and arranged for a forged certificate to prove, that this athlete has tested negative.
In October 2007 the Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation (ABBF) conducted disciplinary measures against the Qatar Weightlifting & Bodybuilding Federation (QWBBF), which led to a suspension of QWBBF and a fine because of the submission of a forged certificate of analysis dated 20th August, 2007 pertaining to Kamal Abdul Salam together with it's purpose of cheating the ABBF.
Later on the decision of the ABBF was approved by the IFBB Executive Council and Congress in Jeju/Korea 2007. Following the proceedings QWBBF appealed to the IFBB President and the sanction imposed on QWBBF was amended by reducing the suspension to 12 months and quashing the fine.
Although athlete Kamal Abdul Salam was found positive again in August 2007 he received only a one year suspension from QWBBF, although according to the applicable Anti-Doping Rules of the IFBB for the 2nd offence a life time suspension is obligatory. How is it possible, that this athlete was allowed to compete in the Men's World Bodybuilding Championships 2008 in the City of Manama/Bahrain and subsequently in the Qatar Golden Cup? We appreciate your comments to this intolerable situation by 10 days notice.
Yours sincerely
Nasser Pouralifard
President - Iran Bodybuilding Federation
Vice-President, Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation
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Dear Rafael,
I am appalled that you haven’t removed Jim Manion from the IFBB given that he hasn’t attended any congress of the IFBB for the past six years and shows no consideration for your federation and your rules.
It seems like you are afraid of him. Why don’t you ban his NPC for not obtaining any sanction from the IFBB when he organizes the NPC competion in the USA?
You didn’t even protect Mr. Powel Frilborn when he objected to the fact that NPC was not following the rules of IFBB. They totally disregarded the so called IFBB constitution and contest rules at the Arnold Classis. Was that the way that an international President should play his role?, double standards and a scar crow?
You told Paul Chua that it is very important for you to associate with Jim Lorrimer and slowly capture the USA market by participating in the Arnold Classic. Therefore you need to be “friendly with Jim” and that you need to “play politics” with him.
As you can see from the past years, NPC of USA - under Jim Manion, is not bothered with the IFBB World Championships as they didn’t participate in any event.
I am urging you to step forward and answer these questions. You are pretty queit because you are ashamed and have lost the respect from many nations.
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ifbbpro Wrote:Dear Rafael,
I am appalled that you haven’t removed Jim Manion from the IFBB given that he hasn’t attended any congress of the IFBB for the past six years and shows no consideration for your federation and your rules.
It seems like you are afraid of him. Why don’t you ban his NPC for not obtaining any sanction from the IFBB when he organizes the NPC competion in the USA?
You didn’t even protect Mr. Powel Frilborn when he objected to the fact that NPC was not following the rules of IFBB. They totally disregarded the so called IFBB constitution and contest rules at the Arnold Classis. Was that the way that an international President should play his role?, double standards and a scar crow?
You told Paul Chua that it is very important for you to associate with Jim Lorrimer and slowly capture the USA market by participating in the Arnold Classic. Therefore you need to be “friendly with Jim” and that you need to “play politics” with him.
As you can see from the past years, NPC of USA - under Jim Manion, is not bothered with the IFBB World Championships as they didn’t participate in any event.
I am urging you to step forward and answer these questions. You are pretty queit because you are ashamed and have lost the respect from many nations.
Mohamed Haleem
Maldives
how mr.santonja can loose his respect? he must get this respect first! you can not loose what you do not have...
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Dear Mr Santonja
Reference: Kamal Abdul Salam of Qatar
At the Men's World Bodybuilding Championships 2008 in the City of Manama Bahrain,the Qatari athlete KAMAL ABDUL SALAM took 1st place.
2nd place winner was Mohamed Oyyoub of Morocco (suspended for doping offence)
So Mahry Ayadi of Iran was moved to 2nd place the third place to Vitaly Grechkhov of Ukraina,4th to Josep Merino of Espana and 5th to Aggeli Abbas of Iran.
As the Chairman of ABBF Medical Committee , I wish to seek clarification because many athletes/officials in Asia will be asking me questions at this coming Asian Championships in Tehran Iran and I need to give them a fair answer to the doping infraction committed by Kamal Abdul Salam of Qatar over the years
1. At the Men's World Bodybuilding Championships in Mumbai/India, Qatari athlete Kamal Abdul Salam took 2nd place but was later on disqualified due to Anti-Doping Rules Violation for a period of 2 years.Only 8 months after this suspension Qatari athlete Kamal Abdul Salam competed again in the Asian Championships 2004.
At the time of the Anti-Doping Violation committed by Qatari athlete Kamal Abdul Salam at the Men's Bodybuilding Championships in Mumbai/India the relevant documents containing the IFBB rules gpverning doping control were:
- IFBB Constitution 2003 edition
- IFBB Anti Doping Program, 2002 edition
- IFBB Directives 2002-004 and 2002-005
The sanctions on individual stipulated in the IFBB Anti-Doping program at that time contained the doping offence pursuant to article 9.1.1 of the program calls for an imposition of a suspension of 2 years for the first violation (SECOND VIOLATION LIFE TIME SUSPENSION)
Was the athlete Kamal Abdul Salam reinstated following a proper reinstated procedure (as per WADA) as outlined in the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules before he competed again in the Asian Championships ?If not, why was he allowed to compete in the asian Championships 2004 ?Who made the decision to reduce the 2 years suspension to a period of more or less 8 months ? (We know that you were the no 2 person as the Executive Assistant to the IFBB President during this period)
2. In August 2007 athlete Kamal Abdul Salam had to undergo Anti-Doping Control again conducted by the Qatar Weightlifting & Bodybuilding Federation as Anti-Doping Organization.According to the certificate of analysis of WADA acccredited lab. in Penang/Malaysia of 30th August the sample collected from athlete Kamal Abdul Salam contained "metandione metabolite".In spite of this adverse analytical finding(AAF), atlete Kamal Abdul Salam was entitled to compete in the Asian Championships.
Although athlete Kamal Abdul Salam was found positive again in August 2007 he received only a one year suspension from QWBBF, although according to applicable Anti-Doping Rules of the IFBB for the 2nd offence a life time suspension is obligatory.
How is it possible , that this athlete was allowed to conpete in Italy, the Excaliber Champs in USA, Men's World Bodybuilding Champs 2008 in the City of Manama /Bahrain and subsequently in Qatar Golden Cup ? We appreciate your comments to this intolerable situation by 10 days notice .
Thank you.
Yours sincerely
Dr Dangsina Moeloek
Chairman ABBF Mdicel Commitee
cc.Mr. Osama Alshafar,President ABBF
Datuk Paul Chua ,Secretary General
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ifbbpro Wrote:Dear Mr Santonja
Reference: Kamal Abdul Salam of Qatar
At the Men's World Bodybuilding Championships 2008 in the City of Manama Bahrain,the Qatari athlete KAMAL ABDUL SALAM took 1st place.
2nd place winner was Mohamed Oyyoub of Morocco (suspended for doping offence)
So Mahry Ayadi of Iran was moved to 2nd place the third place to Vitaly Grechkhov of Ukraina,4th to Josep Merino of Espana and 5th to Aggeli Abbas of Iran.
As the Chairman of ABBF Medical Committee , I wish to seek clarification because many athletes/officials in Asia will be asking me questions at this coming Asian Championships in Tehran Iran and I need to give them a fair answer to the doping infraction committed by Kamal Abdul Salam of Qatar over the years
1. At the Men's World Bodybuilding Championships in Mumbai/India, Qatari athlete Kamal Abdul Salam took 2nd place but was later on disqualified due to Anti-Doping Rules Violation for a period of 2 years.Only 8 months after this suspension Qatari athlete Kamal Abdul Salam competed again in the Asian Championships 2004.
At the time of the Anti-Doping Violation committed by Qatari athlete Kamal Abdul Salam at the Men's Bodybuilding Championships in Mumbai/India the relevant documents containing the IFBB rules gpverning doping control were:
- IFBB Constitution 2003 edition
- IFBB Anti Doping Program, 2002 edition
- IFBB Directives 2002-004 and 2002-005
The sanctions on individual stipulated in the IFBB Anti-Doping program at that time contained the doping offence pursuant to article 9.1.1 of the program calls for an imposition of a suspension of 2 years for the first violation (SECOND VIOLATION LIFE TIME SUSPENSION)
Was the athlete Kamal Abdul Salam reinstated following a proper reinstated procedure (as per WADA) as outlined in the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules before he competed again in the Asian Championships ?If not, why was he allowed to compete in the asian Championships 2004 ?Who made the decision to reduce the 2 years suspension to a period of more or less 8 months ? (We know that you were the no 2 person as the Executive Assistant to the IFBB President during this period)
2. In August 2007 athlete Kamal Abdul Salam had to undergo Anti-Doping Control again conducted by the Qatar Weightlifting & Bodybuilding Federation as Anti-Doping Organization.According to the certificate of analysis of WADA acccredited lab. in Penang/Malaysia of 30th August the sample collected from athlete Kamal Abdul Salam contained "metandione metabolite".In spite of this adverse analytical finding(AAF), atlete Kamal Abdul Salam was entitled to compete in the Asian Championships.
Although athlete Kamal Abdul Salam was found positive again in August 2007 he received only a one year suspension from QWBBF, although according to applicable Anti-Doping Rules of the IFBB for the 2nd offence a life time suspension is obligatory.
How is it possible , that this athlete was allowed to conpete in Italy, the Excaliber Champs in USA, Men's World Bodybuilding Champs 2008 in the City of Manama /Bahrain and subsequently in Qatar Golden Cup ? We appreciate your comments to this intolerable situation by 10 days notice .
Thank you.
Yours sincerely
Dr Dangsina Moeloek
Chairman ABBF Mdicel Commitee
cc.Mr. Osama Alshafar,President ABBF
Datuk Paul Chua ,Secretary General
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Today we received one more letter to publish in the forum from the main IFBB Finance Officer:
On Fri, 15/5/09, lawfirm.bauer <lawfirm.bauer@chello.at> wrote:
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Reference: The legal status of the IFBB/EBFF
Dear colleagues and members,
pertaining to the attached document “The legal status of the IFBB” issued by the head office Madrid, Spain I am rendering the following comments:
1. Historical background – The legal status of the IFBB in Canada:
Apparently the IFBB – now even according to the position of the IFBB Head Office in Madrid/Spain – came into existence as a legal entity (under the laws of Canada) only by December 30th 1969 in the shape of “International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc.”. Allegedly on 4th September 1970, at the 1st IFBB International Congress in Belgrad (former Yugoslavia) the IFBB (that was founded by Joe and Ben Weider 1946 in Montreal/Canada) adopted its 1st Constitution and Rules and elected its 1st Executive Committee.
By that time the Canadian Corporation already existed and it would be interesting to know if that was mentioned at this Congress and if the Executive Committee, that was elected at the IFBB International Congress was identical to the then directors of the Corporation.
IFBB Head Office Madrid/Spain asserts, that under Canadian law, letters patent and general bylaws are completely separate documents and filings. Where as letters patent is the equivalent of articles of incorporation for profit companies, general bylaws are rules that govern the internal management of an organisation.
Does that mean, that the IFBB Constitution is identical to the general bylaws of the corporation, if yes, why was it never mentioned, that the IFBB Constitution is just the general bylaws of the corporation?
If the general bylaws of the corporation are not identical to the IFBB Constitution (that is published on the internet www.ifbb.com), why were the members never informed about these general bylaws and why was the existence of the corporation, it´s letters patent and it´s bylaws never mentioned anywhere in any Executive Council Meeting, Congress and official publication, including the official website www.ifbb.com?
From the website of AGFIS (General Asociation of International Sports Federations – GAIFS) International Federation of Bodybuidling & Fitness is mentioned as member International Sports Federation, but it can not be seen when International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness was founded and since when it is a member of AGFIS.
From the position of the IFBB Head Office Madrid/Spain, it still remains mysterious if they consider the corporation to be one and the same entity as the International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness or not.
Since the name of the IFBB was changed at the Congess on 7th November 2004 in Moscow/Russia from International Federation of Bodybuilders to “International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness” and the name of the Corporation remained “International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc.” until today this question bears even more relevance. If the general bylaws are only the rules that govern the internal management of an Organisation, then the IFBB Constitution (published on the internet www.ifbb.com) definitely is not the general bylaws of the corporation.
If IFBB INC and IFBB were one and the same entity why then did the resolution of the IFBB Congress of 7th November 2004 change only the name of the IFBB but not of IFBB Inc.?
Under section 3 of the joint declaration of July 2007 the term “international bylaws” is mentioned referencing section 6.1. of the international bylaws of the corporation. Does that mean that the international bylaws (are they identical to the general bylaws?) are the IFBB Constitution published on www.ifbb.com? The IFBB Constitution definitely not only contains regulations for it´s internal management, but also rules, for it´s representation. A Canadian corporation can usually only operate in Canada. Is that the reason why under section 2 of the joint declaration it is mentioned, that the corporation “de facto” – and not in law -is an International Organisation?
2. The transition:
If the Corporation and the International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness are one and the same Organisation, why was it then necessary to produce minutes of a (fictuous?) special general meeting of the members of the corporation on October 29th 2006 (the minutes were signed by Pamela Kagan, Secretary of the meeting) – that meeting is also mentioned in the joint declaration under section 4 (on October 29th, 2006, Dr. Ben Weider retired as President, Director and Member of the Corporation and Dr. Rafael Santonja, a Spanish Citizen residing in Madrid, was elected President of the corporation by unanimous decision).
Why it is not mentioned in Article 7 of the IFBB Constitution ( www.ifbb.com), that it is a Canadian Non – for – Profit Corporation that was founded on December 30th 1969? The joint declaration was signed by Ben Weider and Rafael Santonja. At the time of the signature of this document (July 2007) Ben Weider was not director of the corporation (he retired on 29th October 2006) and also not President of the International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness. Rafael Santonja at that time was President of International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness and President of the corporation. Why was this joint declaration signed without any prior information to the Executive Council and Congress of the International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness, and why was this joint declaration not even mentioned afterwards during the Executive Council Meetings and Congresses in 2007 (Jeju) and 2008 (Manama)? How can such important business be done without the prior approval of the Congress?
3. The legal status of the IFBB in Spain:
Asociacion – Federacion Internacional de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (AFIFF) was founded on September 14th 2007 by the Spanish, French and Austrian National Bodybuilding & Fitness Federations affiliated with IFBB with Dr. Rafael Santonja, Axel Bauer, José Ramos and Philippe Lefelle being its Directors. Up to this date no meeting in this Spanish Corporation took place (at least not with my information and consent).
How can this corporation become the “legal and natural successor to International Federation of Bodybuilders” as it existed in Canada without an agreement between these two legal entities and the members? In the information of the IFBB Head Office, Madrid, Spain it is asserted:
“The transfer of accounts from Montreal to Madrid was carried out in a legal, transparent and professional manner in compliance with the laws of Canada and Spain.”
It is not described what precise measures were taken and which resolutions between the two legal entities (International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc./Asociacion – Federacion Internacional de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness) were made to support this claim. I am the Vice President of AFIFF and the Austrian Federation is founding member of this Spanish Corporation. I am neither aware of any meetings or transactions or other business carried out by the Spanish Corporation other than that a membership application (Certificate of Membership to the IFBB) was handed out (that document allegedly was prepared by Rafael Santonja´s lawyer Javier Sanchez) to be signed by the European National Federations present at the EBFF Congress in May 2008 in Playa de Aro/Spain.
Under section 5 of this document it is mentioned, that International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc. was dissolved and closed down in 2007 arranging the follow up of it´s activity by the AFIFF as successor at universal titel.
In the joint declaration however nothing is mentioned about the corporation in Spain becoming the successor at universal titel of International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc. It is mentioned though, that the balance of accounts of the corporations bank accounts shall be transfered to the account of the non profit spanish corporation.
Since now the Madrid Head Office can not deny anymore the existence of the corporations in Canada and Spain, they have to come forward with sort of an explanation, which is still incomplete, utterly misleading and unlogical.
According to the IFBB Financial Report 2006/2007 (rendered by José Ramos, IFBB Treasurer) on November 1st 2006 IFBB received an income from the Professional League of Canadian $ 100.000,00 and another Canadian $ 100.000,00 in the form of “Sponsorship Contract by companies Hardcore and Santonja Fitness Point”.
In Rafael Santonja´s e-mail to me of 10th March 2009 he refers to a person named Luc Autet, who – allegedly – claims, that all monies (of IFBB Inc.) “were sent to Dr. Santonja, to my knowlegde”. If the Professional League transfered 100.000,00 Canadian Dollars to “IFBB” (does that mean AFIFF?) and hardcore and Santonja Fitness Point (what are the names of these companies –Equipos Cardiovasculares S. L.? FITNESS POINT S. L.?) paid $ 100.000,00 on the basis of a “Sponsorship Contract”, then where is this Sponsorship Contract and where are the 100.000,00 Canadian Dollars from IFBB Inc.?
According to Canadian Law a non profit organization in order to be dissolved must:
- have no assets;
or
- if the corporation had assets, they have been:
1. Distributed among other recognized charitable corporations in Canada;
2. Distributed among other corporations in Canada possibly having the same or similar objects, or
3. rateably divided among the members; and
- has no debts, liabilities or other obligations; or
- that the debts, liabilities or other obligations have been duly provided for.
Even by 29th April 2009 the International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc. is still on the government registries and has not filed annual declarations since 2007 (federal) or 2005 (provincially).
The statement of the Madrid Head Office pertaining to “the legal status of the IFBB” completely forgets/ conceals the proceedings that happened in 2005 pertaining to the segregation of assets (creating a new corporation named IFBB Professional League and transfer of all assets of International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc. save an amount of 100.000,00 Canadian Dollars to the new corporation). Please note again, that the minutes of the general special meeting of the board of directors held (allegedly) at the head office of the corporation on 16th May 2005 listed the following persons as present:
- Ben Weider
- Eric Weider
- Paul Chua
- Pamela Kagan
- Rafael Santonja
The resolutions that were made at this meeting practically deprived IFBB Inc. of all it´s properties save an amount of 100.000,00 Canadian Dollars!!!
Nothing like that was ever mentioned in any Congress held thereafter (Congress 2005 Shanghai/China, Congress 2006 Ostrava/Czech Republic; Congress 2007 Jeju/Korea; Congress 2008 Manama/Bahrain). To the Congress it was only explained, that the split of the Amateur Division and the Professional Division was necessary because of doping controls. The professionals didn´t want to perform doping controls, so their activities must be split from the activities of the Amateur Division (that accepted Anti-Doping Controls).
I am attaching again the Minutes of IFBB Inc. special meeting of May 16th 2005 and since this document “The Legal Status of the IFBB” from the IFBB Head Office Madrid/Spain was produced and published I have to refer to Rafael Santonja´s fax to me of 26th January 2007 that attached the Minutes of the General Special Meeting of IFBB Inc. of May 16th 2005 and October 29th 2006, when he wrote:
“Dear Axel:
It was nice to talk with you yesterday. Attached is the document I mentioned you..
By the document we can see now a corporation from which I never heard before. Since October 2006, I got no information, nothing at all.. Now, we get this document that, you will see, is just amazing.
In a first lecture, IFBB is a trademark that belongs to a person giving rights to a corporation................. from which I am member without knowing it (not only member, I am Chairman!). The corporation deceided to make me Chairman until next year annual meeting!!) Now, all the attempts from Tony to hide the Ostrava results make sense.
All the accounts are ok, what accounts? I never received a single number!
(Note: talk about transparency!!!)
Please, read it carefully and will talk on it later.
I will do my best to handle this situation with the minimum noise. I would talk with Ben on this, it is unacceptable and it will be scandal when people realise about this. We will find the best way.
Basically, I feel confident in the future, I am very sorry for somebody, and I am going to put this 100% in line in the most discrete manner.
I am travelling outside Madrid, but I shall be back at the office in the afternoon.
Enjoy the lecture,
Rafael”
In January 2007 Rafael Santonja judged the proceedings that happend 2005 and 2006 (referenced in the Minutes – General Special Meetings of IFBB Inc. of May 16th, 2005 and October 29th, 2006) a “scandal”!
Now in the information of IFBB Head Office Madrid, Spain headlined “the legal status of the IFBB” he leads people to believe, that this “scandal” is business as usual! Now that these circumstances in IFBB came to light (segregation of assets, two sets of bylaws and Executive Councils, questionable money transfer, etc.) it seems necessary to enforce an investigation by qualified experts (auditing company; lawyers) to produce a clear objective picture especially with respect to the elections 2010.
I investigated again the legal status of the IFBB in Spain with the help of a brilliant Spanish lawyer, that produced the following findings:
1. The entity named International Federation of Bodybuilding and Fitness/IFBB has no legal presence in Spain (whether in the form of a branch, a subsidiary or an established local company).
2. The International Federation of Bodybuilding and Fitness/IFBB, under this denomination, is not an association/trust/officially recognized sports body in Spain.
3. There are approximately 15 registered associations in Spain, that have names related to the Spanish equivalents of Bodybuilding/Fitness. Three of them are openly connected with our president, Dr. Rafael Satonja:
- Asociacion-Federacion Internacional de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (AFIFF)
The AFIFF is domiciled in Madrid. Documents indicate that Mr. Santonja acts as the chairman of this association. The AFIFF was formed on 14th September 2007. In Dr. Santonja’s terminology, this appears to be the “International Federation”.
- Asociacion-Federacion Europea de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (AFEFF)
The AFEFF has the same address in Madrid as the AFIFF. The AFEFF was formed on 11th April 2008. In Dr. Santonja’s terminology, this appears to be the “European Federation”.
- Federacion Espanola de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (AFESFF)
The AFESSF was one of the three founding members of the AFIFF (and shares a postal address with the AFIFF for notification purposes). Interestingly, its declared purpose is not sport or bodybuilding, but “excursions”. The AFESFF was formed on 25th November 2004. In Mr. Santonja’s terminology, this appears to be the “Spanish Federation”.
4. A community trademark “IFBB Pro” has been requested under application number 7237514 by an entity (IFBB Professional League) domiciled at the same address in Canada, where IFBB Inc. has its headquarters. The filing was made on 17th September 2008, well after the AFIFF had been formed in Spain. If granted the trademark would be fully enforceable in Spain (note that the AFIFF does not appear to use the IFBB denomination at all, just that of the AFIFF, but any activity carried out under IFBB named in Europe should ordinarily be approved by the IFBB trademark holders).
5. The Spanish High Council for Sports (CSD) has confirmed, that despite using the term “federacion”, non of these entities (AFIFF/AFEFF/AFESFF) is officially recognized as a sports federation in accordance with the Spanish law. Some of them are registered within this category by the associations’ registry, because the officials understand, that they are a grouping of smaller associations (which appears not in fact to be truth).
6. “IFBB head office, Madrid, Spain” is just a shabby shop, that does not contain any signage/banners notifying this place to be the official head office of International Federation of Bodybuilding and Fitness/AFIFF/AFEFF. This place/”office” is the official address of a company named “Equipos Cardiovasculares S..L.” (a peculiar denomination since the denomination “Cardiovascular Equipment” refers to medical devices, not to bodybuilding activities as the other three companies of Rafael Santonja – Aerofitness S.L., Fitness Endurance S.L. and Todo Fitness S.L.). Dr. Rafael Santonja is the sole administrator of this company. Its corporate purpose is selling of foods, clothing and sporting and gymnastics materials and shoes (which is not consistent with the corporate denomination). It appears that, as from 2006, a lady called Elisea Sanchez is the manager of the company, although the corporate power would be still in the hands of Mr. Santonja. As from 2008, this company is the legal owner of several trademarks (PENTAMATRIX, HARDCORE LIP OFF, HARDCORE NO LIMIT). The company was sued for omitting payments to the Spanish Social Security and goods and current account were seized to cover a debt of around € 3.000,00.
Attached please find a picture of our “head quarters”
- a picture says more than a thousand words.
Best regards,
Axel Bauer
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On Fri, 15/5/09, lawfirm.bauer <lawfirm.bauer@chello.at> wrote:
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Reference: The legal status of the IFBB/EBFF
Dear colleagues and members,
pertaining to the attached document “The legal status of the IFBB” issued by the head office Madrid, Spain I am rendering the following comments:
1. Historical background – The legal status of the IFBB in Canada:
Apparently the IFBB – now even according to the position of the IFBB Head Office in Madrid/Spain – came into existence as a legal entity (under the laws of Canada) only by December 30th 1969 in the shape of “International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc.”. Allegedly on 4th September 1970, at the 1st IFBB International Congress in Belgrad (former Yugoslavia) the IFBB (that was founded by Joe and Ben Weider 1946 in Montreal/Canada) adopted its 1st Constitution and Rules and elected its 1st Executive Committee.
By that time the Canadian Corporation already existed and it would be interesting to know if that was mentioned at this Congress and if the Executive Committee, that was elected at the IFBB International Congress was identical to the then directors of the Corporation.
IFBB Head Office Madrid/Spain asserts, that under Canadian law, letters patent and general bylaws are completely separate documents and filings. Where as letters patent is the equivalent of articles of incorporation for profit companies, general bylaws are rules that govern the internal management of an organisation.
Does that mean, that the IFBB Constitution is identical to the general bylaws of the corporation, if yes, why was it never mentioned, that the IFBB Constitution is just the general bylaws of the corporation?
If the general bylaws of the corporation are not identical to the IFBB Constitution (that is published on the internet www.ifbb.com), why were the members never informed about these general bylaws and why was the existence of the corporation, it´s letters patent and it´s bylaws never mentioned anywhere in any Executive Council Meeting, Congress and official publication, including the official website www.ifbb.com?
From the website of AGFIS (General Asociation of International Sports Federations – GAIFS) International Federation of Bodybuidling & Fitness is mentioned as member International Sports Federation, but it can not be seen when International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness was founded and since when it is a member of AGFIS.
From the position of the IFBB Head Office Madrid/Spain, it still remains mysterious if they consider the corporation to be one and the same entity as the International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness or not.
Since the name of the IFBB was changed at the Congess on 7th November 2004 in Moscow/Russia from International Federation of Bodybuilders to “International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness” and the name of the Corporation remained “International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc.” until today this question bears even more relevance. If the general bylaws are only the rules that govern the internal management of an Organisation, then the IFBB Constitution (published on the internet www.ifbb.com) definitely is not the general bylaws of the corporation.
If IFBB INC and IFBB were one and the same entity why then did the resolution of the IFBB Congress of 7th November 2004 change only the name of the IFBB but not of IFBB Inc.?
Under section 3 of the joint declaration of July 2007 the term “international bylaws” is mentioned referencing section 6.1. of the international bylaws of the corporation. Does that mean that the international bylaws (are they identical to the general bylaws?) are the IFBB Constitution published on www.ifbb.com? The IFBB Constitution definitely not only contains regulations for it´s internal management, but also rules, for it´s representation. A Canadian corporation can usually only operate in Canada. Is that the reason why under section 2 of the joint declaration it is mentioned, that the corporation “de facto” – and not in law -is an International Organisation?
2. The transition:
If the Corporation and the International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness are one and the same Organisation, why was it then necessary to produce minutes of a (fictuous?) special general meeting of the members of the corporation on October 29th 2006 (the minutes were signed by Pamela Kagan, Secretary of the meeting) – that meeting is also mentioned in the joint declaration under section 4 (on October 29th, 2006, Dr. Ben Weider retired as President, Director and Member of the Corporation and Dr. Rafael Santonja, a Spanish Citizen residing in Madrid, was elected President of the corporation by unanimous decision).
Why it is not mentioned in Article 7 of the IFBB Constitution (www.ifbb.com), that it is a Canadian Non – for – Profit Corporation that was founded on December 30th 1969? The joint declaration was signed by Ben Weider and Rafael Santonja. At the time of the signature of this document (July 2007) Ben Weider was not director of the corporation (he retired on 29th October 2006) and also not President of the International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness. Rafael Santonja at that time was President of International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness and President of the corporation. Why was this joint declaration signed without any prior information to the Executive Council and Congress of the International Federation of Bodybuilding & Fitness, and why was this joint declaration not even mentioned afterwards during the Executive Council Meetings and Congresses in 2007 (Jeju) and 2008 (Manama)? How can such important business be done without the prior approval of the Congress?
3. The legal status of the IFBB in Spain:
Asociacion – Federacion Internacional de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (AFIFF) was founded on September 14th 2007 by the Spanish, French and Austrian National Bodybuilding & Fitness Federations affiliated with IFBB with Dr. Rafael Santonja, Axel Bauer, José Ramos and Philippe Lefelle being its Directors. Up to this date no meeting in this Spanish Corporation took place (at least not with my information and consent).
How can this corporation become the “legal and natural successor to International Federation of Bodybuilders” as it existed in Canada without an agreement between these two legal entities and the members? In the information of the IFBB Head Office, Madrid, Spain it is asserted:
“The transfer of accounts from Montreal to Madrid was carried out in a legal, transparent and professional manner in compliance with the laws of Canada and Spain.”
It is not described what precise measures were taken and which resolutions between the two legal entities (International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc./Asociacion – Federacion Internacional de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness) were made to support this claim. I am the Vice President of AFIFF and the Austrian Federation is founding member of this Spanish Corporation. I am neither aware of any meetings or transactions or other business carried out by the Spanish Corporation other than that a membership application (Certificate of Membership to the IFBB) was handed out (that document allegedly was prepared by Rafael Santonja´s lawyer Javier Sanchez) to be signed by the European National Federations present at the EBFF Congress in May 2008 in Playa de Aro/Spain.
Under section 5 of this document it is mentioned, that International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc. was dissolved and closed down in 2007 arranging the follow up of it´s activity by the AFIFF as successor at universal titel.
In the joint declaration however nothing is mentioned about the corporation in Spain becoming the successor at universal titel of International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc. It is mentioned though, that the balance of accounts of the corporations bank accounts shall be transfered to the account of the non profit spanish corporation.
Since now the Madrid Head Office can not deny anymore the existence of the corporations in Canada and Spain, they have to come forward with sort of an explanation, which is still incomplete, utterly misleading and unlogical.
According to the IFBB Financial Report 2006/2007 (rendered by José Ramos, IFBB Treasurer) on November 1st 2006 IFBB received an income from the Professional League of Canadian $ 100.000,00 and another Canadian $ 100.000,00 in the form of “Sponsorship Contract by companies Hardcore and Santonja Fitness Point”.
In Rafael Santonja´s e-mail to me of 10th March 2009 he refers to a person named Luc Autet, who – allegedly – claims, that all monies (of IFBB Inc.) “were sent to Dr. Santonja, to my knowlegde”. If the Professional League transfered 100.000,00 Canadian Dollars to “IFBB” (does that mean AFIFF?) and hardcore and Santonja Fitness Point (what are the names of these companies –Equipos Cardiovasculares S. L.? FITNESS POINT S. L.?) paid $ 100.000,00 on the basis of a “Sponsorship Contract”, then where is this Sponsorship Contract and where are the 100.000,00 Canadian Dollars from IFBB Inc.?
According to Canadian Law a non profit organization in order to be dissolved must:
- have no assets;
or
- if the corporation had assets, they have been:
1. Distributed among other recognized charitable corporations in Canada;
2. Distributed among other corporations in Canada possibly having the same or similar objects, or
3. rateably divided among the members; and
- has no debts, liabilities or other obligations; or
- that the debts, liabilities or other obligations have been duly provided for.
Even by 29th April 2009 the International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc. is still on the government registries and has not filed annual declarations since 2007 (federal) or 2005 (provincially).
The statement of the Madrid Head Office pertaining to “the legal status of the IFBB” completely forgets/ conceals the proceedings that happened in 2005 pertaining to the segregation of assets (creating a new corporation named IFBB Professional League and transfer of all assets of International Federation of Bodybuilders Inc. save an amount of 100.000,00 Canadian Dollars to the new corporation). Please note again, that the minutes of the general special meeting of the board of directors held (allegedly) at the head office of the corporation on 16th May 2005 listed the following persons as present:
- Ben Weider
- Eric Weider
- Paul Chua
- Pamela Kagan
- Rafael Santonja
The resolutions that were made at this meeting practically deprived IFBB Inc. of all it´s properties save an amount of 100.000,00 Canadian Dollars!!!
Nothing like that was ever mentioned in any Congress held thereafter (Congress 2005 Shanghai/China, Congress 2006 Ostrava/Czech Republic; Congress 2007 Jeju/Korea; Congress 2008 Manama/Bahrain). To the Congress it was only explained, that the split of the Amateur Division and the Professional Division was necessary because of doping controls. The professionals didn´t want to perform doping controls, so their activities must be split from the activities of the Amateur Division (that accepted Anti-Doping Controls).
I am attaching again the Minutes of IFBB Inc. special meeting of May 16th 2005 and since this document “The Legal Status of the IFBB” from the IFBB Head Office Madrid/Spain was produced and published I have to refer to Rafael Santonja´s fax to me of 26th January 2007 that attached the Minutes of the General Special Meeting of IFBB Inc. of May 16th 2005 and October 29th 2006, when he wrote:
“Dear Axel:
It was nice to talk with you yesterday. Attached is the document I mentioned you..
By the document we can see now a corporation from which I never heard before. Since October 2006, I got no information, nothing at all.. Now, we get this document that, you will see, is just amazing.
In a first lecture, IFBB is a trademark that belongs to a person giving rights to a corporation................. from which I am member without knowing it (not only member, I am Chairman!). The corporation deceided to make me Chairman until next year annual meeting!!) Now, all the attempts from Tony to hide the Ostrava results make sense.
All the accounts are ok, what accounts? I never received a single number!
(Note: talk about transparency!!!)
Please, read it carefully and will talk on it later.
I will do my best to handle this situation with the minimum noise. I would talk with Ben on this, it is unacceptable and it will be scandal when people realise about this. We will find the best way.
Basically, I feel confident in the future, I am very sorry for somebody, and I am going to put this 100% in line in the most discrete manner.
I am travelling outside Madrid, but I shall be back at the office in the afternoon.
Enjoy the lecture,
Rafael”
In January 2007 Rafael Santonja judged the proceedings that happend 2005 and 2006 (referenced in the Minutes – General Special Meetings of IFBB Inc. of May 16th, 2005 and October 29th, 2006) a “scandal”!
Now in the information of IFBB Head Office Madrid, Spain headlined “the legal status of the IFBB” he leads people to believe, that this “scandal” is business as usual! Now that these circumstances in IFBB came to light (segregation of assets, two sets of bylaws and Executive Councils, questionable money transfer, etc.) it seems necessary to enforce an investigation by qualified experts (auditing company; lawyers) to produce a clear objective picture especially with respect to the elections 2010.
I investigated again the legal status of the IFBB in Spain with the help of a brilliant Spanish lawyer, that produced the following findings:
1. The entity named International Federation of Bodybuilding and Fitness/IFBB has no legal presence in Spain (whether in the form of a branch, a subsidiary or an established local company).
2. The International Federation of Bodybuilding and Fitness/IFBB, under this denomination, is not an association/trust/officially recognized sports body in Spain.
3. There are approximately 15 registered associations in Spain, that have names related to the Spanish equivalents of Bodybuilding/Fitness. Three of them are openly connected with our president, Dr. Rafael Satonja:
- Asociacion-Federacion Internacional de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (AFIFF)
The AFIFF is domiciled in Madrid. Documents indicate that Mr. Santonja acts as the chairman of this association. The AFIFF was formed on 14th September 2007. In Dr. Santonja’s terminology, this appears to be the “International Federation”.
- Asociacion-Federacion Europea de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (AFEFF)
The AFEFF has the same address in Madrid as the AFIFF. The AFEFF was formed on 11th April 2008. In Dr. Santonja’s terminology, this appears to be the “European Federation”.
- Federacion Espanola de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (AFESFF)
The AFESSF was one of the three founding members of the AFIFF (and shares a postal address with the AFIFF for notification purposes). Interestingly, its declared purpose is not sport or bodybuilding, but “excursions”. The AFESFF was formed on 25th November 2004. In Mr. Santonja’s terminology, this appears to be the “Spanish Federation”.
4. A community trademark “IFBB Pro” has been requested under application number 7237514 by an entity (IFBB Professional League) domiciled at the same address in Canada, where IFBB Inc. has its headquarters. The filing was made on 17th September 2008, well after the AFIFF had been formed in Spain. If granted the trademark would be fully enforceable in Spain (note that the AFIFF does not appear to use the IFBB denomination at all, just that of the AFIFF, but any activity carried out under IFBB named in Europe should ordinarily be approved by the IFBB trademark holders).
5. The Spanish High Council for Sports (CSD) has confirmed, that despite using the term “federacion”, non of these entities (AFIFF/AFEFF/AFESFF) is officially recognized as a sports federation in accordance with the Spanish law. Some of them are registered within this category by the associations’ registry, because the officials understand, that they are a grouping of smaller associations (which appears not in fact to be truth).
6. “IFBB head office, Madrid, Spain” is just a shabby shop, that does not contain any signage/banners notifying this place to be the official head office of International Federation of Bodybuilding and Fitness/AFIFF/AFEFF. This place/”office” is the official address of a company named “Equipos Cardiovasculares S..L.” (a peculiar denomination since the denomination “Cardiovascular Equipment” refers to medical devices, not to bodybuilding activities as the other three companies of Rafael Santonja – Aerofitness S.L., Fitness Endurance S.L. and Todo Fitness S.L.). Dr. Rafael Santonja is the sole administrator of this company. Its corporate purpose is selling of foods, clothing and sporting and gymnastics materials and shoes (which is not consistent with the corporate denomination). It appears that, as from 2006, a lady called Elisea Sanchez is the manager of the company, although the corporate power would be still in the hands of Mr. Santonja. As from 2008, this company is the legal owner of several trademarks (PENTAMATRIX, HARDCORE LIP OFF, HARDCORE NO LIMIT). The company was sued for omitting payments to the Spanish Social Security and goods and current account were seized to cover a debt of around € 3.000,00.
Attached please find a picture of our “head quarters”
- a picture says more than a thousand words.
Best regards,
Axel Bauer
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Today we received one more letter from IFBB Officials to publish in the forum.
On Fri, 15/5/09, hussin alsaffar <alsafarww73@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: hussin alsaffar <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: DEFAMATION AND LIBEL AGAINST ME
To: "IFBB" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg, "osama al shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "mustafa mahdi" <mustafa_salih2004@yahoo.com>, "Mohd Abd elrahim" <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>, "AXEL BAUER" <rechtsanwaltskanzlei.bauer@chello.at>
Date: Friday, 15 May, 2009, 7:31 PM
DEAR RAFAEL SANTONJA
PRESIDENT OF IFBB INC.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR KIND ATTENTION THAT, HOW DARE YOU WILL WRITE A THREATENING LETTER TO IRAN BODYBUILDING FEDERATION ( IBBF ) IN UN-SPORT MANNER, AND WHICH YOU DEFAMED, AND LIBEL MY NAME IN YOUR LETTER.
PLEASE READ MY ANSWER IN BLUE IN RESPONDING TO YOUR LETTER TO IBBF:
YOUR STATEMENT:
" We wish to bring to your attention Very Serious related to doping controls and the results management of these controls happening in Asia that has affected the Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness federation ( ABBF )"
WOW THE PRESIDENT OF IFBB TALKING ABOUT THE DOPING RESULTS IN ASIA, WHAT ABOUT IFBB , WHICH HAVE VERY SERIOUS DOPING VIOLATION BY HIDING THE RESULTS, AND THE EXAMPLE : HIDING THE JOSE CARLOS DOPING RESULT ( 2008 CHAMPIONSHIP IN BAHRAIN ), AND BY KEEPING SILENT OF THE 9 POSITIVE CASES IN ONE EVENT OF 19 SAMPLES, CAN YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION: WHY YOU AND YOUR COMMITTEE HIDE THE JOSE CARLOSE FROM BRAZIL DOPING RESULT, AND WAS GOING TO MANIPULATE IT ?
YOUR STATEMENT:
" IFBB is a Signatory to the WADA Code & its Anti-doping Rules are in Conformity with the code ..........."
DID YOU SEND THE DOPING RESULTS OF 62nd IFBB WORLD MEN'S BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIP WHICH WAS HELD IN BAHRAIN TO WADA?
I DOUBT, IF YES, YOU WAS NOT ABLE TO HIDE THE BRAZILIAN DOPING RESULT, THIS MEANS YOU ARE ONLY USING THE ABOVE STATEMENT TO CHEAT THE DOPING RESULTS, WHICH A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE, AND AGAINST THE WADA RULES. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
YOUR STATEMENT:
" In 2008, the IFBB began receiving information of the potential Serious Violation of IFBB, Olympic Counsel of Asia, and WADA anti-doping rules that involved the secretary general of the Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness federation ( ABBF ) Mr. Paul Chua of Singapore ......."
CAN YOU ANSWER IF YOU ARE HONEST, SHOW ME THE COMPLAIN WHICH YOU RECEIVED FROM THE ABOVES?
I MEAN OLYMPIC COUNCIL OF ASIA & WADA. MR. PAUL CHUA WAS THE IFBB VICE PRESIDENT FOR ASIA FOR SO MANY YEARS, AND THEN HE WAS YOUR EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, AND YOU KNOW HIM MORE THAN ANY BODY ELSE. HOW COME NOW YOUR ARE INVESTIGATING ALL OF THIS MATTER AFTER YOU REMOVE HIM FROM HIS POST ILLEGALLY AND WITH UNCONSTITUTIONAL DECISION. NOT ONLY THIS YOU ARE ALSO INVOLVED IN THIS CASE.
YOU VIOLATE THE WADA RULES BY TAKING YOUR DECISION, WITHOUT CALLING FOR AN EXTRA ORDINARY IFBB EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING TO DISCUSS MR. CHUA CASE, AND GIVE HIM A FARE HEARING, BUT SORRY TO TELL YOU THAT YOU FAILED TO DO SO, AND TOOK ONE MAN DECISION ONLY WHICH IS YOU POWER, ARTICLE 20.1 IN YOUR CORPORATION CONSTITUTION.
YOUR STATEMENT:
" The case concerned of Hong Kong athletes who were suspended for anti-doping rules violation at the 2005 Asian Bodybuilding Championship ( ABBF ) ......... "
VERY STRANGE, WHERE WAS THE IFBB, AND YOUR GOOD SELF IN THE YEAR OF 2005, AND WHY NOW YOU ARE INVESTIGATING THIS ISSUE NOW, CAN YOU ANSWER THIS SIMPLE QUESTION?
WHAT ABOUT THE DOPING VIOLATION IN THE IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP ON YEARLY BASES, THAT RESULT WHICH YOU PUBLISH IN IFBB WEBSITE, AND GOD KNOWS HOW MANY YOU ARE HIDED, SAME WHEN YOU TRIED TO HIDE THE BRAZILIAN ATHLETE RESULT, BUT THANK GOD TO DISCOVER YOUR SERIOUS VIOLATION.
IFBB VIOLATED VERY SERIOUS DOPING VIOLATION:
1. IN 2007 ABBF CHAMPIONSHIP IN SHANGHAI - CHINA YOU WAS PRESENT IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP, AND ATTEND THE ABBF EXECUTIVE AND CONGRESS MEETING AND AGREED THE DECISION WHICH ABBF TOOK AT THAT TIME AGAINST QATAR FEDERATION, I DON'T WANT TO GO IN DETAILS, AND ALSO YOU APPROVED ABBF DECISION IN IFBB CONGRESS IN JEJU - KOREA 2007.
2. WHY YOU DID NOT ALLOWED QATAR ATHLETES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE 61st IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP IN JEJU - 2007, AND I WAS THE WITNESS IN THE CONGRESS YOU AGREED TO BAN QATAR FEDERATION, AND I SAW HOW ALI TABRIZI WAS BAGGING YOU, AND CRYING TO PARTICIPATE, BUT YOU REFUSED AS IFBB - PRESIDENT & SEND THEM BACK NEXT DAY.
3. IFBB REDUCED THE 2 YEARS SUSPENSION OF 2 QATARIES ATHELETS IN THE YEAR OF 2004 FROM 2 YEARS TO 9 MONTHS, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IN WHICH ARTICLE IN IFBB WRITEN THIS RULES.
THEN YOU REDUCED THE SUSPENSION OD LIFE BANNED FOR ONE QATARY ATHELET NAMED KAMAL ABDULSALAM TO 8 MOTHS IN ORDER TO PARICIPATE IN 2008 CHAMPIONSHIP. CAN YOU AGAIN EXPLAIN TO ME IN WHICH WADA OR IFBB ARTICLE WRITEN THIS RULES? DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS THE MOST SERIOUS DOPING VIOLATION WHICH IS AGIANST WADA RULES EVEN AGAINST NATIOMNAL FEDERATION RULES?
4. EYGPT BODYBUILDING FEDERATION YEARLY, YOU ARE PLACING THEM AS TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP, INSPITE THEY VIOLATE THE DOPING RULES AND REGULATION ACCORDING TO WADA ANIT-DOPING RULES AND IFBB RULES. WHAT ACTION IFBB TAKEN TILL NOW AGAINST EYGPT FEDERATION, YEARLY THEY HAVE POSITIVE CASES, FOR LAST 8 YEARS I HAVE A FULL DOCUMENTS ABOUT THEIR DOPING VIOLATION IN IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP. WHAT ACTION IFBB TAKEN? CAN YOU ANSWER ME THIS VITAL QUESTION????
NOW TELL ME WHO IS VIOLATING THE WADA RULES? IF IFBB IS A SIGNATORY TO THE WADA CODE, AND IT’S ANTI – DOPING RULES, WHY IFBB DOES NOT FOLLOW THESE RULES, AND VIOLATE IT FREQUENTLY.
YOUR STATEMENT:
"To date , the ABBF, Mr. Chua & Mr. Al Safar have failed to co operate....."
CAN YOU SHOW ME THE LETTER WHICH YOU ADDRESSED TO ME AND ASKED WHICH INDICATE THAT I HAVE TO SUBMIT ANY REPORT TO YOU OR TO YOUR COMMITTEE. I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT, THIS MATTER WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE FOUNDER, AND LIFE PRESIDENT OF IFBB, LATE BEN WEIDER, AND YOU WAS THE WITNESS, AND I HAVE A COPY OF LATTER FROM LATE BEN WEIDER REGARDING THIS ISSUE.. HOW COME YOU ARE NOW INVESTIGATING, THIS MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE TRUST IN YOUR BOSS THE LATE BEN WEIDER.
YOUR STATEMENT:
" Mr. Chua and his associates, among them Mr. AL Safar through a campaign of misinformation send largely by anonymous emailers, is attempting to harm the IFBB by malicious, hateful and falls propaganda......"
HOW DARE YOU AS THE PRESIDENT OF IFBB SUPPOSE TO BE ONE THE DEMOCRATIC SPORT ORGANIZATION DEFAMED AND LIBEL MY NAME BY WRITING TO IBBF? ALL YOUR STATEMENT ARE NOT TRUE.
I WROTE TO YOU A LETTER IN A PROFESSIONAL MATTER, BUT TILL NOW YOU FAILED TO ANSWER IT, I HOPE YOU HAVE THE DATE OF MY LETTER, IT IS MORE THAN 3 MOTHS NOW, WHY YOU ARE NOT ANSWERING, IF ANY ONE ASKED FOR HIS RIGHT THEN, HE IS AGAINST YOU AND YOUR CORPORATION?????
WHY YOU CANCELLED THE 63rd IFBB WORLD MEN'S CHAMPIONSHIP FOR THE YEAR 2009 ( 2 - 7 NOVEMBER 2009 ) FROM DUBAI - UAE, CAN YOU GIVE ME:
1. A SINGLE REASON??
2. IN WHICH EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING IFBB TOOK THIS DECISION?
3. WHO WAS PRESENT IN THE MEETING, CAN YOU NAMED THEM.
4. IFBB THROUGH ITS CONGRESS APPROVED THE CHAMPIONSHIP TO BE HELD IN DUBAI IN THE IFBB CONGRESS IN JEJU 2007, AND THEN IN IFBB CONGRESS IN THE YEAR 2008 IN BAHRAIN. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME, HOW COME THE CONGRESS WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS DECISION??
5. UAE HAS THE RIGHT TO SUE YOU,THE IFBB AND COMPENSATE FOR ALL THE EXPENSES WHICH WE SPEND FOR THIS CHAMPIONSHIP, WHICH WILL REACHED TO 500.000 US $, ( INSPECTION EXPENSES, HOTEL BOOKING, TROPHIES, ADVERTISING, AVENUE HALL BOOKING, AND .......,
WE HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS, AND YOU ARE GOING TO RECEIVE A LETTER FROM OUR LAWYER VERY SOON FOR COMPENSATION AS WILL AS A CASE AGAINST YOUR DECISION.
YOUR STATEMENT:
" IFBB has established an interim Commission for Asia, on behalf of IFBB , the office
established in Doha Qatar...."
* DID YOU ASKED THE OCA ABOUT THIS COMMISSION, AND HAVE THE LETTER OF APPROVAL.
* DID YOU ASKED FOR EXTRA ORDINARY EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING TO DISSCUS THIS ISSUE AND TO TAKE THIS DECISION.
* HAVE CAN YOU AS RAFAEL SANTONJA ESTABLISH A COMMISSION IN QATAR WHILE THEY ARE UNDER SUSPENSION, WHICH YOU APPROVE IT IN 2007 AS I MENTIONED IN MY ABOVE STATEMENT.
* DID YOU CONSULT THE ASAIN COUTURIERS WHICH AFFILIATED TO ABBF, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONE TO TAKE SUCH DECISION AND NOT YOU.
* ABBF CONGRESS THE ONLY ONE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE SUCH DECISION.
THEREFORE I HAVE A FULL RIGHT TO ASK OUR LAWYER TO PROCEED A CASE AGAINST YOU FOR:
1. CANCELLATION OF IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP FROM UAE.
2. DEFAMED AND LI BLE MY NAME.
YOU HAVE 48 HOURS FROM DATE, AND TIME OF THIS LETTER TO ANSWER MY QUESTION, AND THIS IS MY RIGHT ACCORDING TO YOUR CONSTITUTION.
PLEASE CONFIRM OF RECEIVING THIS EMAIL.
REGARDS.
HUSSAIN AHMED AL SAFFAR
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WFF secretary service Wrote:Today we received one more letter from IFBB Officials to publish in the forum.
On Fri, 15/5/09, hussin alsaffar <alsafarww73@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: hussin alsaffar <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: DEFAMATION AND LIBEL AGAINST ME
To: "IFBB" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg, "osama al shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "mustafa mahdi" <mustafa_salih2004@yahoo.com>, "Mohd Abd elrahim" <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>, "AXEL BAUER" <rechtsanwaltskanzlei.bauer@chello.at>
Date: Friday, 15 May, 2009, 7:31 PM
DEAR RAFAEL SANTONJA
PRESIDENT OF IFBB INC.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR KIND ATTENTION THAT, HOW DARE YOU WILL WRITE A THREATENING LETTER TO IRAN BODYBUILDING FEDERATION ( IBBF ) IN UN-SPORT MANNER, AND WHICH YOU DEFAMED, AND LIBEL MY NAME IN YOUR LETTER.
PLEASE READ MY ANSWER IN BLUE IN RESPONDING TO YOUR LETTER TO IBBF:
YOUR STATEMENT:
" We wish to bring to your attention Very Serious related to doping controls and the results management of these controls happening in Asia that has affected the Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness federation ( ABBF )"
WOW THE PRESIDENT OF IFBB TALKING ABOUT THE DOPING RESULTS IN ASIA, WHAT ABOUT IFBB , WHICH HAVE VERY SERIOUS DOPING VIOLATION BY HIDING THE RESULTS, AND THE EXAMPLE : HIDING THE JOSE CARLOS DOPING RESULT ( 2008 CHAMPIONSHIP IN BAHRAIN ), AND BY KEEPING SILENT OF THE 9 POSITIVE CASES IN ONE EVENT OF 19 SAMPLES, CAN YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION: WHY YOU AND YOUR COMMITTEE HIDE THE JOSE CARLOSE FROM BRAZIL DOPING RESULT, AND WAS GOING TO MANIPULATE IT ?
YOUR STATEMENT:
" IFBB is a Signatory to the WADA Code & its Anti-doping Rules are in Conformity with the code ..........."
DID YOU SEND THE DOPING RESULTS OF 62nd IFBB WORLD MEN'S BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIP WHICH WAS HELD IN BAHRAIN TO WADA?
I DOUBT, IF YES, YOU WAS NOT ABLE TO HIDE THE BRAZILIAN DOPING RESULT, THIS MEANS YOU ARE ONLY USING THE ABOVE STATEMENT TO CHEAT THE DOPING RESULTS, WHICH A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE, AND AGAINST THE WADA RULES. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
YOUR STATEMENT:
" In 2008, the IFBB began receiving information of the potential Serious Violation of IFBB, Olympic Counsel of Asia, and WADA anti-doping rules that involved the secretary general of the Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness federation ( ABBF ) Mr. Paul Chua of Singapore ......."
CAN YOU ANSWER IF YOU ARE HONEST, SHOW ME THE COMPLAIN WHICH YOU RECEIVED FROM THE ABOVES?
I MEAN OLYMPIC COUNCIL OF ASIA & WADA. MR. PAUL CHUA WAS THE IFBB VICE PRESIDENT FOR ASIA FOR SO MANY YEARS, AND THEN HE WAS YOUR EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, AND YOU KNOW HIM MORE THAN ANY BODY ELSE. HOW COME NOW YOUR ARE INVESTIGATING ALL OF THIS MATTER AFTER YOU REMOVE HIM FROM HIS POST ILLEGALLY AND WITH UNCONSTITUTIONAL DECISION. NOT ONLY THIS YOU ARE ALSO INVOLVED IN THIS CASE.
YOU VIOLATE THE WADA RULES BY TAKING YOUR DECISION, WITHOUT CALLING FOR AN EXTRA ORDINARY IFBB EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING TO DISCUSS MR. CHUA CASE, AND GIVE HIM A FARE HEARING, BUT SORRY TO TELL YOU THAT YOU FAILED TO DO SO, AND TOOK ONE MAN DECISION ONLY WHICH IS YOU POWER, ARTICLE 20.1 IN YOUR CORPORATION CONSTITUTION.
YOUR STATEMENT:
" The case concerned of Hong Kong athletes who were suspended for anti-doping rules violation at the 2005 Asian Bodybuilding Championship ( ABBF ) ......... "
VERY STRANGE, WHERE WAS THE IFBB, AND YOUR GOOD SELF IN THE YEAR OF 2005, AND WHY NOW YOU ARE INVESTIGATING THIS ISSUE NOW, CAN YOU ANSWER THIS SIMPLE QUESTION?
WHAT ABOUT THE DOPING VIOLATION IN THE IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP ON YEARLY BASES, THAT RESULT WHICH YOU PUBLISH IN IFBB WEBSITE, AND GOD KNOWS HOW MANY YOU ARE HIDED, SAME WHEN YOU TRIED TO HIDE THE BRAZILIAN ATHLETE RESULT, BUT THANK GOD TO DISCOVER YOUR SERIOUS VIOLATION.
IFBB VIOLATED VERY SERIOUS DOPING VIOLATION:
1. IN 2007 ABBF CHAMPIONSHIP IN SHANGHAI - CHINA YOU WAS PRESENT IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP, AND ATTEND THE ABBF EXECUTIVE AND CONGRESS MEETING AND AGREED THE DECISION WHICH ABBF TOOK AT THAT TIME AGAINST QATAR FEDERATION, I DON'T WANT TO GO IN DETAILS, AND ALSO YOU APPROVED ABBF DECISION IN IFBB CONGRESS IN JEJU - KOREA 2007.
2. WHY YOU DID NOT ALLOWED QATAR ATHLETES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE 61st IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP IN JEJU - 2007, AND I WAS THE WITNESS IN THE CONGRESS YOU AGREED TO BAN QATAR FEDERATION, AND I SAW HOW ALI TABRIZI WAS BAGGING YOU, AND CRYING TO PARTICIPATE, BUT YOU REFUSED AS IFBB - PRESIDENT & SEND THEM BACK NEXT DAY.
3. IFBB REDUCED THE 2 YEARS SUSPENSION OF 2 QATARIES ATHELETS IN THE YEAR OF 2004 FROM 2 YEARS TO 9 MONTHS, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IN WHICH ARTICLE IN IFBB WRITEN THIS RULES.
THEN YOU REDUCED THE SUSPENSION OD LIFE BANNED FOR ONE QATARY ATHELET NAMED KAMAL ABDULSALAM TO 8 MOTHS IN ORDER TO PARICIPATE IN 2008 CHAMPIONSHIP. CAN YOU AGAIN EXPLAIN TO ME IN WHICH WADA OR IFBB ARTICLE WRITEN THIS RULES? DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS THE MOST SERIOUS DOPING VIOLATION WHICH IS AGIANST WADA RULES EVEN AGAINST NATIOMNAL FEDERATION RULES?
4. EYGPT BODYBUILDING FEDERATION YEARLY, YOU ARE PLACING THEM AS TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP, INSPITE THEY VIOLATE THE DOPING RULES AND REGULATION ACCORDING TO WADA ANIT-DOPING RULES AND IFBB RULES. WHAT ACTION IFBB TAKEN TILL NOW AGAINST EYGPT FEDERATION, YEARLY THEY HAVE POSITIVE CASES, FOR LAST 8 YEARS I HAVE A FULL DOCUMENTS ABOUT THEIR DOPING VIOLATION IN IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP. WHAT ACTION IFBB TAKEN? CAN YOU ANSWER ME THIS VITAL QUESTION????
NOW TELL ME WHO IS VIOLATING THE WADA RULES? IF IFBB IS A SIGNATORY TO THE WADA CODE, AND IT’S ANTI – DOPING RULES, WHY IFBB DOES NOT FOLLOW THESE RULES, AND VIOLATE IT FREQUENTLY.
YOUR STATEMENT:
"To date , the ABBF, Mr. Chua & Mr. Al Safar have failed to co operate....."
CAN YOU SHOW ME THE LETTER WHICH YOU ADDRESSED TO ME AND ASKED WHICH INDICATE THAT I HAVE TO SUBMIT ANY REPORT TO YOU OR TO YOUR COMMITTEE. I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT, THIS MATTER WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE FOUNDER, AND LIFE PRESIDENT OF IFBB, LATE BEN WEIDER, AND YOU WAS THE WITNESS, AND I HAVE A COPY OF LATTER FROM LATE BEN WEIDER REGARDING THIS ISSUE.. HOW COME YOU ARE NOW INVESTIGATING, THIS MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE TRUST IN YOUR BOSS THE LATE BEN WEIDER.
YOUR STATEMENT:
" Mr. Chua and his associates, among them Mr. AL Safar through a campaign of misinformation send largely by anonymous emailers, is attempting to harm the IFBB by malicious, hateful and falls propaganda......"
HOW DARE YOU AS THE PRESIDENT OF IFBB SUPPOSE TO BE ONE THE DEMOCRATIC SPORT ORGANIZATION DEFAMED AND LIBEL MY NAME BY WRITING TO IBBF? ALL YOUR STATEMENT ARE NOT TRUE.
I WROTE TO YOU A LETTER IN A PROFESSIONAL MATTER, BUT TILL NOW YOU FAILED TO ANSWER IT, I HOPE YOU HAVE THE DATE OF MY LETTER, IT IS MORE THAN 3 MOTHS NOW, WHY YOU ARE NOT ANSWERING, IF ANY ONE ASKED FOR HIS RIGHT THEN, HE IS AGAINST YOU AND YOUR CORPORATION?????
WHY YOU CANCELLED THE 63rd IFBB WORLD MEN'S CHAMPIONSHIP FOR THE YEAR 2009 ( 2 - 7 NOVEMBER 2009 ) FROM DUBAI - UAE, CAN YOU GIVE ME:
1. A SINGLE REASON??
2. IN WHICH EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING IFBB TOOK THIS DECISION?
3. WHO WAS PRESENT IN THE MEETING, CAN YOU NAMED THEM.
4. IFBB THROUGH ITS CONGRESS APPROVED THE CHAMPIONSHIP TO BE HELD IN DUBAI IN THE IFBB CONGRESS IN JEJU 2007, AND THEN IN IFBB CONGRESS IN THE YEAR 2008 IN BAHRAIN. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME, HOW COME THE CONGRESS WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS DECISION??
5. UAE HAS THE RIGHT TO SUE YOU,THE IFBB AND COMPENSATE FOR ALL THE EXPENSES WHICH WE SPEND FOR THIS CHAMPIONSHIP, WHICH WILL REACHED TO 500.000 US $, ( INSPECTION EXPENSES, HOTEL BOOKING, TROPHIES, ADVERTISING, AVENUE HALL BOOKING, AND .......,
WE HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS, AND YOU ARE GOING TO RECEIVE A LETTER FROM OUR LAWYER VERY SOON FOR COMPENSATION AS WILL AS A CASE AGAINST YOUR DECISION.
YOUR STATEMENT:
" IFBB has established an interim Commission for Asia, on behalf of IFBB , the office
established in Doha Qatar...."
* DID YOU ASKED THE OCA ABOUT THIS COMMISSION, AND HAVE THE LETTER OF APPROVAL.
* DID YOU ASKED FOR EXTRA ORDINARY EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING TO DISSCUS THIS ISSUE AND TO TAKE THIS DECISION.
* HAVE CAN YOU AS RAFAEL SANTONJA ESTABLISH A COMMISSION IN QATAR WHILE THEY ARE UNDER SUSPENSION, WHICH YOU APPROVE IT IN 2007 AS I MENTIONED IN MY ABOVE STATEMENT.
* DID YOU CONSULT THE ASAIN COUTURIERS WHICH AFFILIATED TO ABBF, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONE TO TAKE SUCH DECISION AND NOT YOU.
* ABBF CONGRESS THE ONLY ONE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE SUCH DECISION.
THEREFORE I HAVE A FULL RIGHT TO ASK OUR LAWYER TO PROCEED A CASE AGAINST YOU FOR:
1. CANCELLATION OF IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP FROM UAE.
2. DEFAMED AND LI BLE MY NAME.
YOU HAVE 48 HOURS FROM DATE, AND TIME OF THIS LETTER TO ANSWER MY QUESTION, AND THIS IS MY RIGHT ACCORDING TO YOUR CONSTITUTION.
PLEASE CONFIRM OF RECEIVING THIS EMAIL.
REGARDS.
HUSSAIN AHMED AL SAFFAR
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Maja Wrote:WFF secretary service Wrote:Today we received one more letter from IFBB Officials to publish in the forum.
On Fri, 15/5/09, hussin alsaffar <alsafarww73@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: hussin alsaffar <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: DEFAMATION AND LIBEL AGAINST ME
To: "IFBB" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg, "osama al shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "mustafa mahdi" <mustafa_salih2004@yahoo.com>, "Mohd Abd elrahim" <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>, "AXEL BAUER" <rechtsanwaltskanzlei.bauer@chello.at>
Date: Friday, 15 May, 2009, 7:31 PM
DEAR RAFAEL SANTONJA
PRESIDENT OF IFBB INC.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR KIND ATTENTION THAT, HOW DARE YOU WILL WRITE A THREATENING LETTER TO IRAN BODYBUILDING FEDERATION ( IBBF ) IN UN-SPORT MANNER, AND WHICH YOU DEFAMED, AND LIBEL MY NAME IN YOUR LETTER.
PLEASE READ MY ANSWER IN BLUE IN RESPONDING TO YOUR LETTER TO IBBF:
YOUR STATEMENT:
" We wish to bring to your attention Very Serious related to doping controls and the results management of these controls happening in Asia that has affected the Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness federation ( ABBF )"
WOW THE PRESIDENT OF IFBB TALKING ABOUT THE DOPING RESULTS IN ASIA, WHAT ABOUT IFBB , WHICH HAVE VERY SERIOUS DOPING VIOLATION BY HIDING THE RESULTS, AND THE EXAMPLE : HIDING THE JOSE CARLOS DOPING RESULT ( 2008 CHAMPIONSHIP IN BAHRAIN ), AND BY KEEPING SILENT OF THE 9 POSITIVE CASES IN ONE EVENT OF 19 SAMPLES, CAN YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION: WHY YOU AND YOUR COMMITTEE HIDE THE JOSE CARLOSE FROM BRAZIL DOPING RESULT, AND WAS GOING TO MANIPULATE IT ?
YOUR STATEMENT:
" IFBB is a Signatory to the WADA Code & its Anti-doping Rules are in Conformity with the code ..........."
DID YOU SEND THE DOPING RESULTS OF 62nd IFBB WORLD MEN'S BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIP WHICH WAS HELD IN BAHRAIN TO WADA?
I DOUBT, IF YES, YOU WAS NOT ABLE TO HIDE THE BRAZILIAN DOPING RESULT, THIS MEANS YOU ARE ONLY USING THE ABOVE STATEMENT TO CHEAT THE DOPING RESULTS, WHICH A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE, AND AGAINST THE WADA RULES. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
YOUR STATEMENT:
" In 2008, the IFBB began receiving information of the potential Serious Violation of IFBB, Olympic Counsel of Asia, and WADA anti-doping rules that involved the secretary general of the Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness federation ( ABBF ) Mr. Paul Chua of Singapore ......."
CAN YOU ANSWER IF YOU ARE HONEST, SHOW ME THE COMPLAIN WHICH YOU RECEIVED FROM THE ABOVES?
I MEAN OLYMPIC COUNCIL OF ASIA & WADA. MR. PAUL CHUA WAS THE IFBB VICE PRESIDENT FOR ASIA FOR SO MANY YEARS, AND THEN HE WAS YOUR EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, AND YOU KNOW HIM MORE THAN ANY BODY ELSE. HOW COME NOW YOUR ARE INVESTIGATING ALL OF THIS MATTER AFTER YOU REMOVE HIM FROM HIS POST ILLEGALLY AND WITH UNCONSTITUTIONAL DECISION. NOT ONLY THIS YOU ARE ALSO INVOLVED IN THIS CASE.
YOU VIOLATE THE WADA RULES BY TAKING YOUR DECISION, WITHOUT CALLING FOR AN EXTRA ORDINARY IFBB EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING TO DISCUSS MR. CHUA CASE, AND GIVE HIM A FARE HEARING, BUT SORRY TO TELL YOU THAT YOU FAILED TO DO SO, AND TOOK ONE MAN DECISION ONLY WHICH IS YOU POWER, ARTICLE 20.1 IN YOUR CORPORATION CONSTITUTION.
YOUR STATEMENT:
" The case concerned of Hong Kong athletes who were suspended for anti-doping rules violation at the 2005 Asian Bodybuilding Championship ( ABBF ) ......... "
VERY STRANGE, WHERE WAS THE IFBB, AND YOUR GOOD SELF IN THE YEAR OF 2005, AND WHY NOW YOU ARE INVESTIGATING THIS ISSUE NOW, CAN YOU ANSWER THIS SIMPLE QUESTION?
WHAT ABOUT THE DOPING VIOLATION IN THE IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP ON YEARLY BASES, THAT RESULT WHICH YOU PUBLISH IN IFBB WEBSITE, AND GOD KNOWS HOW MANY YOU ARE HIDED, SAME WHEN YOU TRIED TO HIDE THE BRAZILIAN ATHLETE RESULT, BUT THANK GOD TO DISCOVER YOUR SERIOUS VIOLATION.
IFBB VIOLATED VERY SERIOUS DOPING VIOLATION:
1. IN 2007 ABBF CHAMPIONSHIP IN SHANGHAI - CHINA YOU WAS PRESENT IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP, AND ATTEND THE ABBF EXECUTIVE AND CONGRESS MEETING AND AGREED THE DECISION WHICH ABBF TOOK AT THAT TIME AGAINST QATAR FEDERATION, I DON'T WANT TO GO IN DETAILS, AND ALSO YOU APPROVED ABBF DECISION IN IFBB CONGRESS IN JEJU - KOREA 2007.
2. WHY YOU DID NOT ALLOWED QATAR ATHLETES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE 61st IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP IN JEJU - 2007, AND I WAS THE WITNESS IN THE CONGRESS YOU AGREED TO BAN QATAR FEDERATION, AND I SAW HOW ALI TABRIZI WAS BAGGING YOU, AND CRYING TO PARTICIPATE, BUT YOU REFUSED AS IFBB - PRESIDENT & SEND THEM BACK NEXT DAY.
3. IFBB REDUCED THE 2 YEARS SUSPENSION OF 2 QATARIES ATHELETS IN THE YEAR OF 2004 FROM 2 YEARS TO 9 MONTHS, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IN WHICH ARTICLE IN IFBB WRITEN THIS RULES.
THEN YOU REDUCED THE SUSPENSION OD LIFE BANNED FOR ONE QATARY ATHELET NAMED KAMAL ABDULSALAM TO 8 MOTHS IN ORDER TO PARICIPATE IN 2008 CHAMPIONSHIP. CAN YOU AGAIN EXPLAIN TO ME IN WHICH WADA OR IFBB ARTICLE WRITEN THIS RULES? DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS THE MOST SERIOUS DOPING VIOLATION WHICH IS AGIANST WADA RULES EVEN AGAINST NATIOMNAL FEDERATION RULES?
4. EYGPT BODYBUILDING FEDERATION YEARLY, YOU ARE PLACING THEM AS TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP, INSPITE THEY VIOLATE THE DOPING RULES AND REGULATION ACCORDING TO WADA ANIT-DOPING RULES AND IFBB RULES. WHAT ACTION IFBB TAKEN TILL NOW AGAINST EYGPT FEDERATION, YEARLY THEY HAVE POSITIVE CASES, FOR LAST 8 YEARS I HAVE A FULL DOCUMENTS ABOUT THEIR DOPING VIOLATION IN IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP. WHAT ACTION IFBB TAKEN? CAN YOU ANSWER ME THIS VITAL QUESTION????
NOW TELL ME WHO IS VIOLATING THE WADA RULES? IF IFBB IS A SIGNATORY TO THE WADA CODE, AND IT’S ANTI – DOPING RULES, WHY IFBB DOES NOT FOLLOW THESE RULES, AND VIOLATE IT FREQUENTLY.
YOUR STATEMENT:
"To date , the ABBF, Mr. Chua & Mr. Al Safar have failed to co operate....."
CAN YOU SHOW ME THE LETTER WHICH YOU ADDRESSED TO ME AND ASKED WHICH INDICATE THAT I HAVE TO SUBMIT ANY REPORT TO YOU OR TO YOUR COMMITTEE. I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT, THIS MATTER WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE FOUNDER, AND LIFE PRESIDENT OF IFBB, LATE BEN WEIDER, AND YOU WAS THE WITNESS, AND I HAVE A COPY OF LATTER FROM LATE BEN WEIDER REGARDING THIS ISSUE.. HOW COME YOU ARE NOW INVESTIGATING, THIS MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE TRUST IN YOUR BOSS THE LATE BEN WEIDER.
YOUR STATEMENT:
" Mr. Chua and his associates, among them Mr. AL Safar through a campaign of misinformation send largely by anonymous emailers, is attempting to harm the IFBB by malicious, hateful and falls propaganda......"
HOW DARE YOU AS THE PRESIDENT OF IFBB SUPPOSE TO BE ONE THE DEMOCRATIC SPORT ORGANIZATION DEFAMED AND LIBEL MY NAME BY WRITING TO IBBF? ALL YOUR STATEMENT ARE NOT TRUE.
I WROTE TO YOU A LETTER IN A PROFESSIONAL MATTER, BUT TILL NOW YOU FAILED TO ANSWER IT, I HOPE YOU HAVE THE DATE OF MY LETTER, IT IS MORE THAN 3 MOTHS NOW, WHY YOU ARE NOT ANSWERING, IF ANY ONE ASKED FOR HIS RIGHT THEN, HE IS AGAINST YOU AND YOUR CORPORATION?????
WHY YOU CANCELLED THE 63rd IFBB WORLD MEN'S CHAMPIONSHIP FOR THE YEAR 2009 ( 2 - 7 NOVEMBER 2009 ) FROM DUBAI - UAE, CAN YOU GIVE ME:
1. A SINGLE REASON??
2. IN WHICH EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING IFBB TOOK THIS DECISION?
3. WHO WAS PRESENT IN THE MEETING, CAN YOU NAMED THEM.
4. IFBB THROUGH ITS CONGRESS APPROVED THE CHAMPIONSHIP TO BE HELD IN DUBAI IN THE IFBB CONGRESS IN JEJU 2007, AND THEN IN IFBB CONGRESS IN THE YEAR 2008 IN BAHRAIN. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME, HOW COME THE CONGRESS WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS DECISION??
5. UAE HAS THE RIGHT TO SUE YOU,THE IFBB AND COMPENSATE FOR ALL THE EXPENSES WHICH WE SPEND FOR THIS CHAMPIONSHIP, WHICH WILL REACHED TO 500.000 US $, ( INSPECTION EXPENSES, HOTEL BOOKING, TROPHIES, ADVERTISING, AVENUE HALL BOOKING, AND .......,
WE HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS, AND YOU ARE GOING TO RECEIVE A LETTER FROM OUR LAWYER VERY SOON FOR COMPENSATION AS WILL AS A CASE AGAINST YOUR DECISION.
YOUR STATEMENT:
" IFBB has established an interim Commission for Asia, on behalf of IFBB , the office
established in Doha Qatar...."
* DID YOU ASKED THE OCA ABOUT THIS COMMISSION, AND HAVE THE LETTER OF APPROVAL.
* DID YOU ASKED FOR EXTRA ORDINARY EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING TO DISSCUS THIS ISSUE AND TO TAKE THIS DECISION.
* HAVE CAN YOU AS RAFAEL SANTONJA ESTABLISH A COMMISSION IN QATAR WHILE THEY ARE UNDER SUSPENSION, WHICH YOU APPROVE IT IN 2007 AS I MENTIONED IN MY ABOVE STATEMENT.
* DID YOU CONSULT THE ASAIN COUTURIERS WHICH AFFILIATED TO ABBF, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONE TO TAKE SUCH DECISION AND NOT YOU.
* ABBF CONGRESS THE ONLY ONE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE SUCH DECISION.
THEREFORE I HAVE A FULL RIGHT TO ASK OUR LAWYER TO PROCEED A CASE AGAINST YOU FOR:
1. CANCELLATION OF IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP FROM UAE.
2. DEFAMED AND LI BLE MY NAME.
YOU HAVE 48 HOURS FROM DATE, AND TIME OF THIS LETTER TO ANSWER MY QUESTION, AND THIS IS MY RIGHT ACCORDING TO YOUR CONSTITUTION.
PLEASE CONFIRM OF RECEIVING THIS EMAIL.
REGARDS.
HUSSAIN AHMED AL SAFFAR
unbelievable...
now everybody can see the real facts about ifbb :oops:
Expecting bad results on the Official Internet Site IFBB Lithuania was the first National IFBB federation that agreed of the great International problems in IFBB:
IFBB IR EBFF: IŠBANDYMAI UGNIMI, VANDENIU IR VARINĖMIS TRIŪBOMIS...
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Pastaruoju metu kultūrizmo ir fitneso visuomenė stebi įvykius, susijusius su IFBB – Tarptautine kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacija. Tiesa, kol kas daugiau internautų interpretacijose, nei oficialių pareiškimų lygyje. Nors keletas jų jau yra irgi.
Kai kas susidariusią situaciją piktdžiugiškai paskubėjo įvertinti kaip IFBB organizacijos mirtį. Bet, panašu, jog su šia žinia yra kiek paskubėta. Tačiau dėl teisybės būtina pasakyti, kad vargu ar IFBB ir kai kurioms jos kontinentinėms sesėms – Europos kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacijai (jai, kaip ir IFBB, vadovauja tas pats asmuo – Rafael Santonja) bei Azijos kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacijai pavyks iškilusi vidinį konfliktą užglaistyti daugmaž tyliai ir visiškai be pasekmių: išbandymai ugnimi (kritikų strėlės), vandeniu (skandinimas ne tik faktais bet ir prasimanymais) ir varinėmis triūbomis (neužtarnautais ditirambais ar pelnyta šlove) parodys, kas yra kas. Žemės drebėjimai be sugriovimų, didesnių ar mažesnių, žinia, nepraeina.
Visos šios istorijos užuomazga tikriausiai galima laikyti Axel Bauer iš Austrijos, kuris yra IFBB patarėjas teisiniais (Legal Advisor) klausimais, taip pat – IFBB Teisėjų komiteto sekretorius ir EBFF (Europos kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacija) generalinis sekretorius. Jis 2009-ųjų pradžioje kreipėsi į IFBB prezidentą Rafael Santonja, norėdamas išsiaiškinti kai kuriuos federacijos „virtuvės“ reikalus. Tačiau konfidenciali korespondencija kažkokiu tai būdu pateko į viešąją erdvę...
Kultūrizmo, sporto šakos, kuri iki dabartinio jos modelio rutuliojosi kiek daugiau nei septynis dešimtmečius, istorija neatsiejama ne tik nuo brolių Joe ir Ben Weider dinastijos, bet ir nuo...sunkiosios atletikos. Juk nežinia kaip būtų pakrypę kultūrizmo kaip sporto formavimasis, jeigu sunkiatlečiai nebūtų jo kažkada...atsisakę.
Mat iki pat 1968 metų Tarptautinė sunkiosios atletikos ir kultūrizmo (FIHC) – būtent taip tada vadinosi dabartinė IWF (Tarptautinė sunkiosios atletikos federacija) globojo ir savo „jaunesnįjį brolį“. Organizuodavo ir kultūristų „Universe“ čempionatus, tiesa, dažniausiai pasibaigus sunkiosios atletikos varžyboms. Kai atsibodo tuo rūpintis, tiesiog metė tai.
Taip vieta „po saule“ liko tuščia...Padedamas ilgamečio FIHC, o vėliau ir IWF funkcionieriaus Oscar State, Ben Weider suskubo padaryti „namų darbus“ – parengti IFBB organizacijos įstatus ir rengtis kelionei į platesnius vandenis.
Axel Bauer – naujas žmogus federacijoje, todėl nėra naftalinu atsiduodančiais „gero diplomatinio tono“ pančiais susaitytas funkcionierius. Jam, beje, ir priklauso pagal užimamas pareigas federacijoje uždavinėti (kartais - ir kai kam nelabai patogius) klausimus, vienaip ar kitaip susijusius su teisiniais federacijos reikalais ? Panašu, jog būtent dėl to ir išsivystė šis konfliktas (ar skirtingų pozicijų pasireiškimas – čia jau kaip kam patogiau visa tai įvardinti).
Pradžia – IFBB statusas ir teisinė registracija. Išsiaiškinta, jog teisinė IFBB registracija užfiksuota 1969 12 30, t.y. prieš IFBB įstojimą į GAISF (Generalinė tarptautinių sporto šakų federacijų asociacija). Pastarosios principas: viena sporto šaka – viena tarptautinė šios sporto šakos federacija, o IFBB ir buvo pirmoji iš tarptautinių kultūristų organizacijų, pasibeldusių į duris.
Finansinės federacijos ataskaitos, sutartys su rėmėjais, tenkinančios vieną, bet netinkančios antrajai pusei – vėlgi, panašu, yra nesusikalbėjimo, informacijos (viešumo) stokos ar požiūrio ir iki tol buvusių nusistovėjusių įpročių skirtumai.
Kaip ir išsiskiriantis sąvokų „korporacija“ (ar tokia nepelno siekiančios organizacijos forma buvo (yra) priimtina bei „asociacija“ supratimas. IFBB vadovai tvirtina, jog dabar Ispanijoje yra registruota ne IFBB korporacija, o asociacija: ispaniškai tai skamba Asociacion-Federacion Internacional de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (steigėjai: Ispanijos, Austrijos ir Prancūzijos federacijos).
Analogiškai – ir Europos federacija (EBFF): Associacion-Federacion Europea de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (steigėjai: Didžiosios Britanijos ir Prancūzijos federacijos).
Kaip reagavo IFBB vadovybė į šiuos, anot, Axel Bauer, „normalius klausimus dėl organizacijos (IFBB / EBFF) legalumo, jos nuostatų, finansinių dalykų bei IFBB vadovų kritikos“ ? Laikinai, kol vyks tyrimas, sustabdė Axel Bauer įgaliojimus IFBB Vykdomajame komitete...Tačiau neatsakytų klausimų, tikėtina, liks...
Dar viena tema, peraugusi į tikras „strėlių laužymo varžybas“, tapo kelerių metų...senumo istorijos, į viešumą iškilusios tik dabar. Tai – Azijos kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacija (ABBF) ir jos dopingo kontrolės klausimai bei sportininkų, susijusių su uždraustų preparatų vartojimu, diskvalifikacija. Taip pat – ir sankcijos už tai.
IFBB apkaltino Azijos kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacijos (ABBF) generalinį sekretorių Datuk Paul Chua, jog šis „užmerkė“ akis ir leido dalyvauti Azijos šalių 2006 m. žaidynėse trims atletams iš Honkongo, kurių dopingo testai buvo teigiami 2005 m. varžybose. Mat jie turėjo būti už tai diskvalifikuoti. IFBB paskelbė šiuo klausimu pranešimą, kuriame teigiama jog Datuk Paul Chua atsisakė bendradarbiauti su IFBB tiriant šį klausimą.
Todėl IFBB nusprendė panaikinti ABBF pripažinimą bei pašalino Datuk Paul Chua iš IFBB prezidento vykdančiojo padėjėjo pareigų. Taip pat nutarta, kol vyks tyrimas, laikinai sustabdyti jo IFBB viceprezidento Azijai įgaliojimus.
Tikriausiai šioje vietoje nebuvo atsitiktinis sutapimas - Miloš Šarčev diskvalifikacijos nuėmimas. Belieka tik prisiminti, jog IFBB Profesionalų Lyga taip nubaudė jį už Chua pareikštą kaltinimus sukčiavus per 2006 m. Azijos žaidynes. Panašu, jog dabar prie to buvo sugrįžta įsiklausant ir į antrąją pusę – o kaip gi ten viskas buvo iš tikrųjų ?
Neliko skolingas ir Chua: jis padavė IFBB į teismą už tai, jog ši pakeitė (sušvelnino) ABBF sankcijas dviems Kataro kultūristams ir panaikino baudą (100 tūkst. USD) šios šalies federacijai.
Suinteresuotumą pakurstyti konfliktą, siekiant iš viso to išpešti naudos sau, labai intensyviai parodė ir „mistiniai šaltiniai“, kaip juos įvardijo pats Axel Bauer: jo laiško originale apie tai irgi kalbama: „a lot of e-mails from mysterious sources are going around these days; I keep getting e-mails from...“ („pastarosiomis dienomis ateina daug laiškų iš mistinių autorių; Aš gaunu laiškus iš...“).
Panašu, jog tai – iš vieno ir to paties adresato, besislapstančio už „victor“, „fair play“, „ifbbpro“, „ifbbeurope“ ir kt. slapyvardžių, darbas. Kartojasi tas pats (ir jau atpažįstamas) braižas - „šaukštelis“ tiesos, paskęstantis melo ir prasimanymų kibire, viena kita intrigėlė, su manipuliacijų ir šantažo priemaišomis. Ir dar intensyviai visa tai pamaišant, kad kiltų kuo daugiau drumzlių!
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Dita Wrote:Expecting bad results on the Official Internet Site IFBB Lithuania was the first National IFBB federation that agreed of the great International problems in IFBB:
IFBB IR EBFF: IŠBANDYMAI UGNIMI, VANDENIU IR VARINĖMIS TRIŪBOMIS...
Arūnas Petraitis
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Pastaruoju metu kultūrizmo ir fitneso visuomenė stebi įvykius, susijusius su IFBB – Tarptautine kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacija. Tiesa, kol kas daugiau internautų interpretacijose, nei oficialių pareiškimų lygyje. Nors keletas jų jau yra irgi.
Kai kas susidariusią situaciją piktdžiugiškai paskubėjo įvertinti kaip IFBB organizacijos mirtį. Bet, panašu, jog su šia žinia yra kiek paskubėta. Tačiau dėl teisybės būtina pasakyti, kad vargu ar IFBB ir kai kurioms jos kontinentinėms sesėms – Europos kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacijai (jai, kaip ir IFBB, vadovauja tas pats asmuo – Rafael Santonja) bei Azijos kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacijai pavyks iškilusi vidinį konfliktą užglaistyti daugmaž tyliai ir visiškai be pasekmių: išbandymai ugnimi (kritikų strėlės), vandeniu (skandinimas ne tik faktais bet ir prasimanymais) ir varinėmis triūbomis (neužtarnautais ditirambais ar pelnyta šlove) parodys, kas yra kas. Žemės drebėjimai be sugriovimų, didesnių ar mažesnių, žinia, nepraeina.
Visos šios istorijos užuomazga tikriausiai galima laikyti Axel Bauer iš Austrijos, kuris yra IFBB patarėjas teisiniais (Legal Advisor) klausimais, taip pat – IFBB Teisėjų komiteto sekretorius ir EBFF (Europos kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacija) generalinis sekretorius. Jis 2009-ųjų pradžioje kreipėsi į IFBB prezidentą Rafael Santonja, norėdamas išsiaiškinti kai kuriuos federacijos „virtuvės“ reikalus. Tačiau konfidenciali korespondencija kažkokiu tai būdu pateko į viešąją erdvę...
Kultūrizmo, sporto šakos, kuri iki dabartinio jos modelio rutuliojosi kiek daugiau nei septynis dešimtmečius, istorija neatsiejama ne tik nuo brolių Joe ir Ben Weider dinastijos, bet ir nuo...sunkiosios atletikos. Juk nežinia kaip būtų pakrypę kultūrizmo kaip sporto formavimasis, jeigu sunkiatlečiai nebūtų jo kažkada...atsisakę.
Mat iki pat 1968 metų Tarptautinė sunkiosios atletikos ir kultūrizmo (FIHC) – būtent taip tada vadinosi dabartinė IWF (Tarptautinė sunkiosios atletikos federacija) globojo ir savo „jaunesnįjį brolį“. Organizuodavo ir kultūristų „Universe“ čempionatus, tiesa, dažniausiai pasibaigus sunkiosios atletikos varžyboms. Kai atsibodo tuo rūpintis, tiesiog metė tai.
Taip vieta „po saule“ liko tuščia...Padedamas ilgamečio FIHC, o vėliau ir IWF funkcionieriaus Oscar State, Ben Weider suskubo padaryti „namų darbus“ – parengti IFBB organizacijos įstatus ir rengtis kelionei į platesnius vandenis.
Axel Bauer – naujas žmogus federacijoje, todėl nėra naftalinu atsiduodančiais „gero diplomatinio tono“ pančiais susaitytas funkcionierius. Jam, beje, ir priklauso pagal užimamas pareigas federacijoje uždavinėti (kartais - ir kai kam nelabai patogius) klausimus, vienaip ar kitaip susijusius su teisiniais federacijos reikalais ? Panašu, jog būtent dėl to ir išsivystė šis konfliktas (ar skirtingų pozicijų pasireiškimas – čia jau kaip kam patogiau visa tai įvardinti).
Pradžia – IFBB statusas ir teisinė registracija. Išsiaiškinta, jog teisinė IFBB registracija užfiksuota 1969 12 30, t.y. prieš IFBB įstojimą į GAISF (Generalinė tarptautinių sporto šakų federacijų asociacija). Pastarosios principas: viena sporto šaka – viena tarptautinė šios sporto šakos federacija, o IFBB ir buvo pirmoji iš tarptautinių kultūristų organizacijų, pasibeldusių į duris.
Finansinės federacijos ataskaitos, sutartys su rėmėjais, tenkinančios vieną, bet netinkančios antrajai pusei – vėlgi, panašu, yra nesusikalbėjimo, informacijos (viešumo) stokos ar požiūrio ir iki tol buvusių nusistovėjusių įpročių skirtumai.
Kaip ir išsiskiriantis sąvokų „korporacija“ (ar tokia nepelno siekiančios organizacijos forma buvo (yra) priimtina bei „asociacija“ supratimas. IFBB vadovai tvirtina, jog dabar Ispanijoje yra registruota ne IFBB korporacija, o asociacija: ispaniškai tai skamba Asociacion-Federacion Internacional de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (steigėjai: Ispanijos, Austrijos ir Prancūzijos federacijos).
Analogiškai – ir Europos federacija (EBFF): Associacion-Federacion Europea de Fisicoculturismo y Fitness (steigėjai: Didžiosios Britanijos ir Prancūzijos federacijos).
Kaip reagavo IFBB vadovybė į šiuos, anot, Axel Bauer, „normalius klausimus dėl organizacijos (IFBB / EBFF) legalumo, jos nuostatų, finansinių dalykų bei IFBB vadovų kritikos“ ? Laikinai, kol vyks tyrimas, sustabdė Axel Bauer įgaliojimus IFBB Vykdomajame komitete...Tačiau neatsakytų klausimų, tikėtina, liks...
Dar viena tema, peraugusi į tikras „strėlių laužymo varžybas“, tapo kelerių metų...senumo istorijos, į viešumą iškilusios tik dabar. Tai – Azijos kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacija (ABBF) ir jos dopingo kontrolės klausimai bei sportininkų, susijusių su uždraustų preparatų vartojimu, diskvalifikacija. Taip pat – ir sankcijos už tai.
IFBB apkaltino Azijos kultūrizmo ir fitneso federacijos (ABBF) generalinį sekretorių Datuk Paul Chua, jog šis „užmerkė“ akis ir leido dalyvauti Azijos šalių 2006 m. žaidynėse trims atletams iš Honkongo, kurių dopingo testai buvo teigiami 2005 m. varžybose. Mat jie turėjo būti už tai diskvalifikuoti. IFBB paskelbė šiuo klausimu pranešimą, kuriame teigiama jog Datuk Paul Chua atsisakė bendradarbiauti su IFBB tiriant šį klausimą.
Todėl IFBB nusprendė panaikinti ABBF pripažinimą bei pašalino Datuk Paul Chua iš IFBB prezidento vykdančiojo padėjėjo pareigų. Taip pat nutarta, kol vyks tyrimas, laikinai sustabdyti jo IFBB viceprezidento Azijai įgaliojimus.
Tikriausiai šioje vietoje nebuvo atsitiktinis sutapimas - Miloš Šarčev diskvalifikacijos nuėmimas. Belieka tik prisiminti, jog IFBB Profesionalų Lyga taip nubaudė jį už Chua pareikštą kaltinimus sukčiavus per 2006 m. Azijos žaidynes. Panašu, jog dabar prie to buvo sugrįžta įsiklausant ir į antrąją pusę – o kaip gi ten viskas buvo iš tikrųjų ?
Neliko skolingas ir Chua: jis padavė IFBB į teismą už tai, jog ši pakeitė (sušvelnino) ABBF sankcijas dviems Kataro kultūristams ir panaikino baudą (100 tūkst. USD) šios šalies federacijai.
Suinteresuotumą pakurstyti konfliktą, siekiant iš viso to išpešti naudos sau, labai intensyviai parodė ir „mistiniai šaltiniai“, kaip juos įvardijo pats Axel Bauer: jo laiško originale apie tai irgi kalbama: „a lot of e-mails from mysterious sources are going around these days; I keep getting e-mails from...“ („pastarosiomis dienomis ateina daug laiškų iš mistinių autorių; Aš gaunu laiškus iš...“).
Panašu, jog tai – iš vieno ir to paties adresato, besislapstančio už „victor“, „fair play“, „ifbbpro“, „ifbbeurope“ ir kt. slapyvardžių, darbas. Kartojasi tas pats (ir jau atpažįstamas) braižas - „šaukštelis“ tiesos, paskęstantis melo ir prasimanymų kibire, viena kita intrigėlė, su manipuliacijų ir šantažo priemaišomis. Ir dar intensyviai visa tai pamaišant, kad kiltų kuo daugiau drumzlių!
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Today we received one more letter on the IFBB affairs with the request to publish in the forum:
On Fri, 22/5/09, Hanif Kureishi <hanifkureishi@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Hanif Kureishi <hanifkureishi@yahoo.com>
Subject: ACCEPT YOUR MISTAKES
To: internacional@santonja.com
Cc: abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg
Date: Friday, 22 May, 2009, 5:36 PM
DEAR DR RAFAEL SANTONJA,
I AM HANIF KUREISHI RETIRED AS POLICE CHIEF AND A HUMBLE PROMOTER OF BODYBUILDING, IF YOU REMEMBER ABOUT OUR BRIEF MEETING DURING 2006 MR OLYMPIA AT LAS VEGAS. I AM VERY MUCH AWARE OF THE FRAY BETWEEN IFBB AND ABBF AND I COULDN'T HOLD MYSELF TO WRITE YOU AND TO ASK YOU THE FOLLOWING POINTS ON THE BASES OF THE DOCUMENTS AND INFORMATIONS I HAVE:-
IFBB IS NO LONGER IS A VIRTUAL ENTITY (FAIRY TALE) NO LEGAL ENTITY IN SPAIN.
THE SPANISH SPORTS COUNCIL DOES NOT RECOGNIZE AFIFF
THE AFIFF IS LOOSELY CONNECTED TO THE IFBB INC.
AS PER THE LAW ABBF IS NOT AN AFFILIATED MEMBER OF THE IFBB AS ABBF DO NOT PAY ANY MEMBERSHIP FEES AND IFBB DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SUSPEND ANY MEMBER IN THE ABBF. THE IFBB CAN SUSPEND PAUL CHUA AS THE VICE-PRESIDENT FROM THEIR FEDERATION BUT NOT FROM THE ABBF, THEY HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER THE CONTINENTAL FEDERATION.
YOU CANNOT COLLECT FEES FOR THE IFBB..IFBB DOES NOT EXIST OR HAVING A BANKING ACCOUNT IN SPAIN. YOU ARE ALSO NOT DISCLOSING THE BANKING ACCOUNTS, OF COURSE, I CAN UNDERSTAND THERE IS NONE UNDER THE NAME OF THE IFBB SINCE THE IFBB HAS NO LEGAL PRESENCE IN SPAIN (WHETHER IN THE FORM OF A BRANCH, A SUBSIDIARY OR AN ESTABLISHED LOCAL COMPANY).
YOU ARE BEHAVING IN AN OBSCURE MANNER. APPARENTLY NOT BEING TRANSPARENT TO MEMBERS OF YOUR SO CALLED "IFBB"
IFBB INC. HAVE NO LEGALITY OVER THE ABBF ...
SO BE FAIR AND BE BOLD TO ACCEPT THE MISTAKES WHICH YOU AND YOUR COMPANY(IFBB) HAD BEEN DOING AND DON'T HARM THIS SPORT OF BODYBUILDING ANYMORE.
SINCERELY YOURS
HANIF KUREISHI
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Today we received a letter to publish in the forum from the ABBF Secretary-General DATUK PAUL CHUA (Singapore).
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On Wed, 20/5/09, CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: QATAR WEIGTLIFTING AND BODYBUILDING FEDERATION & IFBB
To: "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>, "ALSHAFAR UAE" <osama@alshafar.ae>
Cc: "hussin UAE alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009, 5:38 PM
Dear Members of ABBF:
Please be informed that the Qatar Weightlifting and Bodybuilding Federation was suspended by the Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation for FORGERY (cheating) of doping documents. This is a CRIMINAL offence under the law.
Now they are going around and canvassing for support to go against the 50 years established organisation of ASIAN BODYBUILDING AND FITNESS FEDERATION.
Your may inform you government departments and Olympic Committees on this matter, and if they require any documents, we will be very happy to provide them.
Do not let the Qatar Weightlifting and Bodybuilding Federation and the International Federation of Bodybuilding and Fitness (IFBB) to misled your government or sports ministry. The IFBB in reality does not exist and they are bogus. We can also provide documents to show proof that they IFBB has no legal presence in Spain (whether in the form of a branch, a subsidiary or an established local company). The IFBB under this denomination, is not an association/trust/officially recognised sports body in Spain.
Thank you
Datuk Paul Chua
ABBF Secretary-General
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WFF secretary service Wrote:Today we received a letter to publish in the forum from the ABBF Secretary-General DATUK PAUL CHUA (Singapore).
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On Wed, 20/5/09, CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: QATAR WEIGTLIFTING AND BODYBUILDING FEDERATION & IFBB
To: "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>, "ALSHAFAR UAE" <osama@alshafar.ae>
Cc: "hussin UAE alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009, 5:38 PM
Dear Members of ABBF:
Please be informed that the Qatar Weightlifting and Bodybuilding Federation was suspended by the Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation for FORGERY (cheating) of doping documents. This is a CRIMINAL offence under the law.
Now they are going around and canvassing for support to go against the 50 years established organisation of ASIAN BODYBUILDING AND FITNESS FEDERATION.
Your may inform you government departments and Olympic Committees on this matter, and if they require any documents, we will be very happy to provide them.
Do not let the Qatar Weightlifting and Bodybuilding Federation and the International Federation of Bodybuilding and Fitness (IFBB) to misled your government or sports ministry. The IFBB in reality does not exist and they are bogus. We can also provide documents to show proof that they IFBB has no legal presence in Spain (whether in the form of a branch, a subsidiary or an established local company). The IFBB under this denomination, is not an association/trust/officially recognised sports body in Spain.
Thank you
Datuk Paul Chua
ABBF Secretary-General
so much shit in ifbb?
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Today we received one more letter for publication in the forum.
ifbbeurope@yahoo.com wrote:
Friends and brave fellow countryman of Europe, Stand-up for your rights!!!
For the first time in the history, we have seen the greatest coward named Rafael Santonja. He is a tyrant, dictator and a clown (midget).
He used security guards and practically threatened Axel Bauer, President of the Austrian Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation from attending the EBBF meeting. This cowardly and stupid act is a bad example in showing to the world how desperate and arrogant Rafael is, abnormal misbehaviour. He wish to protect his image being tarnished in the presence of all the members. He is afraid that he will be exposed of all his stupid mistakes and evil doings, of course, the accounts of the EBBF/IFBB will be questioned, and this will hurt him most. How long can he hide, surely at the World Championships (IF ANY) he together with his Senior Officers will face a barrage of questions and he cannot escape. We will put them to SHAME. Will he employ the same tactics to rough fellow members??
Why does Rafael have to resort to this dirty tactics to keep out Axel? The answer is simple: Rafael does not want Axel to tell the TRUTH. Rafael is worried and terrified of Axel because he knows that Axel knows everything from A - Z about the accounts and the secret transactions. Axel's first question will be where is the Bank's account of the IFBB & EBBF and the transfer of money from Canada to Spain, Contracts, all the fees collected from registration, sanction etc. etc. etc. WHERE ARE THEY ???
Rafael thinking is that all Europeans are silly/stupid and they can be treated like robots but he forgets that one day he and his Senior Officers will face the wrath of the members. This cannot go for too long. I understand that many Asians are fed-up with the way Rafael is acting, no manners, too arrogant and high-handed.
How on earth can Rafael and his Senior Officers suspend ABBF provisionally and at the same time they formed a "SCA" Special Commission for Asia" led by a renegade federation member Mr.. Ibrahim Kafoud of Qatar Weightlifting and Bodybuilding Federation (QWBBF).. The QWBBF forged and cheated the doping documents in 2007 and they were caught and such a person is appointed to head the SCA??? Where is the credibility? Here again Rafael and his Senior Officers flawed. Many people in the Olympic Committees are laughing at this episode.
Iran slapped Rafael on his face and proceeding to organise the Asian Championships under the purview of the Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation. Why Rafael don't take them to task? He is a COWARD.
GOD IS GREAT and RAFAEL cannot escape God's punishment, it is only a matter of time.
Victor Mendis
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WFF secretary service Wrote:Today we received one more letter for publication in the forum.
ifbbeurope@yahoo.com wrote:
Friends and brave fellow countryman of Europe, Stand-up for your rights!!!
For the first time in the history, we have seen the greatest coward named Rafael Santonja. He is a tyrant, dictator and a clown (midget).
He used security guards and practically threatened Axel Bauer, President of the Austrian Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation from attending the EBBF meeting. This cowardly and stupid act is a bad example in showing to the world how desperate and arrogant Rafael is, abnormal misbehaviour. He wish to protect his image being tarnished in the presence of all the members. He is afraid that he will be exposed of all his stupid mistakes and evil doings, of course, the accounts of the EBBF/IFBB will be questioned, and this will hurt him most. How long can he hide, surely at the World Championships (IF ANY) he together with his Senior Officers will face a barrage of questions and he cannot escape. We will put them to SHAME. Will he employ the same tactics to rough fellow members??
Why does Rafael have to resort to this dirty tactics to keep out Axel? The answer is simple: Rafael does not want Axel to tell the TRUTH. Rafael is worried and terrified of Axel because he knows that Axel knows everything from A - Z about the accounts and the secret transactions. Axel's first question will be where is the Bank's account of the IFBB & EBBF and the transfer of money from Canada to Spain, Contracts, all the fees collected from registration, sanction etc. etc. etc. WHERE ARE THEY ???
Rafael thinking is that all Europeans are silly/stupid and they can be treated like robots but he forgets that one day he and his Senior Officers will face the wrath of the members. This cannot go for too long. I understand that many Asians are fed-up with the way Rafael is acting, no manners, too arrogant and high-handed.
How on earth can Rafael and his Senior Officers suspend ABBF provisionally and at the same time they formed a "SCA" Special Commission for Asia" led by a renegade federation member Mr.. Ibrahim Kafoud of Qatar Weightlifting and Bodybuilding Federation (QWBBF).. The QWBBF forged and cheated the doping documents in 2007 and they were caught and such a person is appointed to head the SCA??? Where is the credibility? Here again Rafael and his Senior Officers flawed. Many people in the Olympic Committees are laughing at this episode.
Iran slapped Rafael on his face and proceeding to organise the Asian Championships under the purview of the Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation. Why Rafael don't take them to task? He is a COWARD.
GOD IS GREAT and RAFAEL cannot escape God's punishment, it is only a matter of time.
Victor Mendis
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TALES OF IFBB
Just try to imagine how long all of us were fooled about the “IFBB Imperia”, about the “Trainer of Champions from 1936”, about the protein “fabrics” and “scientific laboratories” as well as many other materials to fool primitive sportsmen.
The latest fooling reflects this picture of the IFBB office in Madrid, that looks more like a second-hand shop, and one more latest fooling of the “IFBB information center”, which is represented only by a personal house keeper of Rafael Santonja, who prepares “IFBB official informative materials” just between washing dishes and sweeping floor in Rafael’s house…
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Dita Wrote:TALES OF IFBB
Just try to imagine how long all of us were fooled about the “IFBB Imperia”, about the “Trainer of Champions from 1936”, about the protein “fabrics” and “scientific laboratories” as well as many other materials to fool primitive sportsmen.
The latest fooling reflects this picture of the IFBB office in Madrid, that looks more like a second-hand shop, and one more latest fooling of the “IFBB information center”, which is represented only by a personal house keeper of Rafael Santonja, who prepares “IFBB official informative materials” just between washing dishes and sweeping floor in Rafael’s house…
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Today we received one more letter from PAUL CHUA to publish in the forum.
On Sat, 23/5/09, dr.vellusamyrajan@ymail.com <dr.vellusamyrajan@ymail.com> wrote:
From: dr.vellusamyrajan@ymail.com <dr.vellusamyrajan@ymail.com>
Subject: NON PROFT ORGANIZATION
To: internacional@santonja.com
Cc: abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg
Date: Saturday, 23 May, 2009, 6:08 PM
Dr. Rafael,
I have been reading all the emails which has been forwarded to me by several members of the Indian Bodybuilding Federations (4 association in India in total), and I have also been reading all your articles in the IFBB website and sadly the stories are slanted and one sided.
I do not see any criticism or attack by the ABBF in their website against you and the IFBB. To this end, I must say they are man of good standing.
I read thoroughly the JOINT DECLARATION which you signed with the late Ben Weider and it states that the IFBB is a NON PROFIT CORPORATION. I am pretty sure Doctor Rafael that this need to be proved. This is indeed a SERIOUS STATEMENT.
If it is a NON PROFIT CORPORATION, surely you need to submit all the ex-office bearers name list (Stake-Holders), Balance sheets stating profits in financial year endings and reserve funds shown in the Balance Sheets, Investments by the IFBB Corporation and Charities if done any. This accounts has to be audited and approved by the Canadian Government under their law. You need to produce all the documents to show where, when and how the funds were used. This is the norm for non profit organizations to the best of my knowledge.
I am sorry if this touches your nerves...you also have to produce documents from the Canadian authorities that all the transactions were done above board since you are one of the Directors of this IFBB Inc. in Canada as it shows in the Joint Declaration.
I hope to hear from you Doctor and my apologies for taking your good time but as a physical culture enthusiasts, I am very much concerned about the financial situation of the IFBB Inc. because many poor athletes and countries have contributed immensely to the success of the IFBB and all these people should not be taken for a ride and ridiculed.
Thank you and have a GOOD DAY.
Dr. Vellusamy Rajan
c.c. Dr. Paul Chua
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