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Nick Wrote:Dita Wrote:TALES OF IFBB
Just try to imagine how long all of us were fooled about the “IFBB Imperia”, about the “Trainer of Champions from 1936”, about the protein “fabrics” and “scientific laboratories” as well as many other materials to fool primitive sportsmen.
The latest fooling reflects this picture of the IFBB office in Madrid, that looks more like a second-hand shop, and one more latest fooling of the “IFBB information center”, which is represented only by a personal house keeper of Rafael Santonja, who prepares “IFBB official informative materials” just between washing dishes and sweeping floor in Rafael’s house…
:roll:
so many new things happened.. :roll:
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Being very busy I forgot IFBB Latvia.
After financial scandal in the federation, IFBB Latvia lost support and recognition in Sport Ministerium and it is no longer supportd by any high sport institutions of the country.
Latvians write about this themselves:
"Впрочем, то что ИФББ вычеркнута из списка спортивных федераций Латвии, может убедиться любой желающий на официальном сайте Управления Спорта Латвии: www.latsports.lv
Их от туда убрали ещё в прошлом году".
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wff_edita Wrote:Being very busy I forgot IFBB Latvia.
After financial scandal in the federation, IFBB Latvia lost support and recognition in Sport Ministerium and it is no longer supportd by any high sport institutions of the country.
Latvians write about this themselves:
"Впрочем, то что ИФББ вычеркнута из списка спортивных федераций Латвии, может убедиться любой желающий на официальном сайте Управления Спорта Латвии: www.latsports.lv
Их от туда убрали ещё в прошлом году".
right!
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Lineta Wrote:wff_edita Wrote:Being very busy I forgot IFBB Latvia.
After financial scandal in the federation, IFBB Latvia lost support and recognition in Sport Ministerium and it is no longer supportd by any high sport institutions of the country.
Latvians write about this themselves:
"Впрочем, то что ИФББ вычеркнута из списка спортивных федераций Латвии, может убедиться любой желающий на официальном сайте Управления Спорта Латвии: www.latsports.lv
Их от туда убрали ещё в прошлом году".
right!
we say it frankly...
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WFF secretary service Wrote:Today we received one more letter for the publication in the forum.
The Asian newspaper writes that Asia Countries say “good bye” to the private IFBB corporation.
From: mohd abdulla <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: Re: AL WAQT NEWSPAPER - BAHRAIN TODAY 01.05.09
To: "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "hussin alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 2:18 PM
DEAR ALL,
TODAY AL WAQT NEWSPAPER ABOUT OUR MEETING IN MALYSIA, 27 COUNTRIES SAID YES TO ABBF, AND SAID NO TO IFBB DECISION, IN SPITE IFBB TRYED THEIR BEST TO PREVENT GTHERING IN THIS MEETING, BUT THEY FIALED. 19 COUNTRIES PRESENT, 8 COUNTRIES SUPPORTED OFFICIAL LETTERES, 5 APPOLOGIZED (CHINA, JAPAN, INDIA, BANGLADESH AND KOREA), AND 6 WAS ABSCENT (JORDON, PALASTINE, SYRIA, LEBANON, QATAR, BAHRAIN).
MOHAMED BDULRAHIM SAID THAT WE GOT THE SUPPORT FROM THE MAJORITY OF ASIAN FEDERATION, AND THE CASE AGAINST THE IFBB WILL CONTINUE AFTER SUPPORT OF ALL THE COUNTRIES ATTENETED THE MEEETING, AND ABBF WILL NOT FOLLOW THE IFBB DECISION, BECUASE THERE IS NO FEDERATION REGISTERED AND RECOGNIZED BY IOC, BUT THERE IS IFBB REGISTERED UNDER CORPORATION.
this is a very important thing. you are correct.
[quote="WFF secretary service"] Today we received one more letter for the publication in the forum.
The Asian newspaper writes that Asia Countries say “good bye” to the private IFBB corporation.
From: mohd abdulla <mohd_bwbb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: Re: AL WAQT NEWSPAPER - BAHRAIN TODAY 01.05.09
To: "Osama Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "hussin alsaffar" <alsafarww73@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 2:18 PM
DEAR ALL,
TODAY AL WAQT NEWSPAPER ABOUT OUR MEETING IN MALYSIA, 27 COUNTRIES SAID YES TO ABBF, AND SAID NO TO IFBB DECISION, IN SPITE IFBB TRYED THEIR BEST TO PREVENT GTHERING IN THIS MEETING, BUT THEY FIALED. 19 COUNTRIES PRESENT, 8 COUNTRIES SUPPORTED OFFICIAL LETTERES, 5 APPOLOGIZED (CHINA, JAPAN, INDIA, BANGLADESH AND KOREA), AND 6 WAS ABSCENT (JORDON, PALASTINE, SYRIA, LEBANON, QATAR, BAHRAIN).
MOHAMED BDULRAHIM SAID THAT WE GOT THE SUPPORT FROM THE MAJORITY OF ASIAN FEDERATION, AND THE CASE AGAINST THE IFBB WILL CONTINUE AFTER SUPPORT OF ALL THE COUNTRIES ATTENETED THE MEEETING, AND ABBF WILL NOT FOLLOW THE IFBB DECISION, BECUASE THERE IS NO FEDERATION REGISTERED AND RECOGNIZED BY IOC, BUT THERE IS IFBB REGISTERED UNDER CORPORATION.[/quote
very short words and ...finito!
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Brad Wrote:Nick Wrote:Dita Wrote:TALES OF IFBB
Just try to imagine how long all of us were fooled about the “IFBB Imperia”, about the “Trainer of Champions from 1936”, about the protein “fabrics” and “scientific laboratories” as well as many other materials to fool primitive sportsmen.
The latest fooling reflects this picture of the IFBB office in Madrid, that looks more like a second-hand shop, and one more latest fooling of the “IFBB information center”, which is represented only by a personal house keeper of Rafael Santonja, who prepares “IFBB official informative materials” just between washing dishes and sweeping floor in Rafael’s house…
:roll:
so many new things happened.. :roll:
i hardly believe it but the documents prove this very strongly!
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No secret, that IFBB has split in 2009 and today we have two International IFBB organizations.
Today we received a letter from Singapore.
National Olympic Committees of Asia support the IFBB International Event in Thailand, that will be organized without having bad reputation RAFAEL SANTONJA this time:
The former Vice President IFBB-International PAUL CHUA wrote:
On Tue, 2/6/09, CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
PHOTO TAKEN WITH THE THAI OLYMPIC COMMITTEE.
COURTESY CALL TO THE OFFICE OF THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE OF THAILAND
Datuk Paul Chua. ABBF Secretary-General made a courtesy call to thank the President of the National Olympic Committee of Thailand, General Yuthasak Sasiprha for accepting the position of Advisor to the Multi- Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Championships which will take place from 14 - 19 October, 2009 in Pattaya City, Thailand. Datuk Chua made a presentation of the ABBF GOLD MEDAL on behalf of President Osama Alshafar to the President of the NOC.
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WFF-WBBF Headquarters Int Wrote:No secret, that IFBB has split in 2009 and today we have two International IFBB organizations.
Today we received a letter from Singapore.
National Olympic Committees of Asia support the IFBB International Event in Thailand, that will be organized without having bad reputation RAFAEL SANTONJA this time:
The former Vice President IFBB-International PAUL CHUA wrote:
On Tue, 2/6/09, CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
PHOTO TAKEN WITH THE THAI OLYMPIC COMMITTEE.
COURTESY CALL TO THE OFFICE OF THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE OF THAILAND
Datuk Paul Chua. ABBF Secretary-General made a courtesy call to thank the President of the National Olympic Committee of Thailand, General Yuthasak Sasiprha for accepting the position of Advisor to the Multi- Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Championships which will take place from 14 - 19 October, 2009 in Pattaya City, Thailand. Datuk Chua made a presentation of the ABBF GOLD MEDAL on behalf of President Osama Alshafar to the President of the NOC.
PHOTO
Photo standing from left:
General Bancha Marinpong, Director, National Olympic Committee of Thailand, President Office, Dr. Varin Tansuphasiri, Deputy Secretary-General, Sir Douglas Latchford, President of TBBA and Patron of ABBF, General Sakan Mitkasem, Vice-President of TBBA, General Yuthasak Sasipraha, President, National Olympic Committee of Thailand and Honorary Life President of SEA Games Federation, Datuk Paul Chua, Ms. Christina Kam, Executive Director and Mr. Sugree Supawarikul, Secretary-General of TBBA and Vice-President of ABBF.
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WFF-WBBF Headquarters Int Wrote:WFF-WBBF Headquarters Int Wrote:No secret, that IFBB has split in 2009 and today we have two International IFBB organizations.
Today we received a letter from Singapore.
National Olympic Committees of Asia support the IFBB International Event in Thailand, that will be organized without having bad reputation RAFAEL SANTONJA this time:
The former Vice President IFBB-International PAUL CHUA wrote:
On Tue, 2/6/09, CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
PHOTO TAKEN WITH THE THAI OLYMPIC COMMITTEE.
COURTESY CALL TO THE OFFICE OF THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE OF THAILAND
Datuk Paul Chua. ABBF Secretary-General made a courtesy call to thank the President of the National Olympic Committee of Thailand, General Yuthasak Sasiprha for accepting the position of Advisor to the Multi- Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Championships which will take place from 14 - 19 October, 2009 in Pattaya City, Thailand. Datuk Chua made a presentation of the ABBF GOLD MEDAL on behalf of President Osama Alshafar to the President of the NOC.
PHOTO
Photo standing from left:
General Bancha Marinpong, Director, National Olympic Committee of Thailand, President Office, Dr. Varin Tansuphasiri, Deputy Secretary-General, Sir Douglas Latchford, President of TBBA and Patron of ABBF, General Sakan Mitkasem, Vice-President of TBBA, General Yuthasak Sasipraha, President, National Olympic Committee of Thailand and Honorary Life President of SEA Games Federation, Datuk Paul Chua, Ms. Christina Kam, Executive Director and Mr. Sugree Supawarikul, Secretary-General of TBBA and Vice-President of ABBF.
that's great!
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WFF-WBBF Headquarters Int Wrote:No secret, that IFBB has split in 2009 and today we have two International IFBB organizations.
Today we received a letter from Singapore.
National Olympic Committees of Asia support the IFBB International Event in Thailand, that will be organized without having bad reputation RAFAEL SANTONJA this time:
The former Vice President IFBB-International PAUL CHUA wrote:
On Tue, 2/6/09, CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
PHOTO TAKEN WITH THE THAI OLYMPIC COMMITTEE.
COURTESY CALL TO THE OFFICE OF THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE OF THAILAND
Datuk Paul Chua. ABBF Secretary-General made a courtesy call to thank the President of the National Olympic Committee of Thailand, General Yuthasak Sasiprha for accepting the position of Advisor to the Multi- Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Championships which will take place from 14 - 19 October, 2009 in Pattaya City, Thailand. Datuk Chua made a presentation of the ABBF GOLD MEDAL on behalf of President Osama Alshafar to the President of the NOC.
Asia Support PAUL CHUA and welcomes International delegations to Thailand (this time again without having bad reputation RAFAEL SANTONJA):
On Tue, 2/6/09, CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
CAPTION:
THE MAYOR OF PATTAYA CITY, H.E. MR. ITTHIPHOL KUNPLOME WARMLY WELCOMES DATUK PAUL CHUA, ABBF SECRETARY-GENERAL.IN HIS OFFICE ON 26TH MAY, 2009.
TEXT:
From 14 - 19 October, 2009 the Asian Women's Bodybuilding, Fitness, Bodyfitness, Men's Fitness, Asian Jr. and Masters Bodybuilding, 10th SEA Bodybuilding Championships (6 categories) and the 50th Golden Anniversary Championships and Classic Bodybuilding plus the WORLD INVITATIONAL OPEN BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIPS with a prize money of US$10,000.- will take place in PATTAYA, the world-renowned beach town for its beautiful beaches, paradise islands, amazing attractions, pubs and nightclubs, world-class sport facilities, and international cuisine restaurants.
The pre-judging and finals of the competition will be held in the ALANGKARN THEATRE, one of the most beautiful theatre in the world. Click www..alangkarnthailand.com to view the beauty of the theatre.
WFF-International Official Information Only
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WFF secretary service Wrote:WFF-WBBF Headquarters Int Wrote:No secret, that IFBB has split in 2009 and today we have two International IFBB organizations.
Today we received a letter from Singapore.
National Olympic Committees of Asia support the IFBB International Event in Thailand, that will be organized without having bad reputation RAFAEL SANTONJA this time:
The former Vice President IFBB-International PAUL CHUA wrote:
On Tue, 2/6/09, CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
PHOTO TAKEN WITH THE THAI OLYMPIC COMMITTEE.
COURTESY CALL TO THE OFFICE OF THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE OF THAILAND
Datuk Paul Chua. ABBF Secretary-General made a courtesy call to thank the President of the National Olympic Committee of Thailand, General Yuthasak Sasiprha for accepting the position of Advisor to the Multi- Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Championships which will take place from 14 - 19 October, 2009 in Pattaya City, Thailand. Datuk Chua made a presentation of the ABBF GOLD MEDAL on behalf of President Osama Alshafar to the President of the NOC.
Asia Support PAUL CHUA and welcomes International delegations to Thailand (this time again without having bad reputation RAFAEL SANTONJA):
On Tue, 2/6/09, CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
CAPTION:
THE MAYOR OF PATTAYA CITY, H.E. MR. ITTHIPHOL KUNPLOME WARMLY WELCOMES DATUK PAUL CHUA, ABBF SECRETARY-GENERAL.IN HIS OFFICE ON 26TH MAY, 2009.
TEXT:
From 14 - 19 October, 2009 the Asian Women's Bodybuilding, Fitness, Bodyfitness, Men's Fitness, Asian Jr. and Masters Bodybuilding, 10th SEA Bodybuilding Championships (6 categories) and the 50th Golden Anniversary Championships and Classic Bodybuilding plus the WORLD INVITATIONAL OPEN BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIPS with a prize money of US$10,000.- will take place in PATTAYA, the world-renowned beach town for its beautiful beaches, paradise islands, amazing attractions, pubs and nightclubs, world-class sport facilities, and international cuisine restaurants.
The pre-judging and finals of the competition will be held in the ALANGKARN THEATRE, one of the most beautiful theatre in the world. Click www..alangkarnthailand.com to view the beauty of the theatre.
santonja compani is finished? :roll:
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WFF secretary service Wrote:WFF-WBBF Headquarters Int Wrote:No secret, that IFBB has split in 2009 and today we have two International IFBB organizations.
Today we received a letter from Singapore.
National Olympic Committees of Asia support the IFBB International Event in Thailand, that will be organized without having bad reputation RAFAEL SANTONJA this time:
The former Vice President IFBB-International PAUL CHUA wrote:
On Tue, 2/6/09, CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
PHOTO TAKEN WITH THE THAI OLYMPIC COMMITTEE.
COURTESY CALL TO THE OFFICE OF THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE OF THAILAND
Datuk Paul Chua. ABBF Secretary-General made a courtesy call to thank the President of the National Olympic Committee of Thailand, General Yuthasak Sasiprha for accepting the position of Advisor to the Multi- Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Championships which will take place from 14 - 19 October, 2009 in Pattaya City, Thailand. Datuk Chua made a presentation of the ABBF GOLD MEDAL on behalf of President Osama Alshafar to the President of the NOC.
Asia Support PAUL CHUA and welcomes International delegations to Thailand (this time again without having bad reputation RAFAEL SANTONJA):
On Tue, 2/6/09, CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
CAPTION:
THE MAYOR OF PATTAYA CITY, H.E. MR. ITTHIPHOL KUNPLOME WARMLY WELCOMES DATUK PAUL CHUA, ABBF SECRETARY-GENERAL.IN HIS OFFICE ON 26TH MAY, 2009.
TEXT:
From 14 - 19 October, 2009 the Asian Women's Bodybuilding, Fitness, Bodyfitness, Men's Fitness, Asian Jr. and Masters Bodybuilding, 10th SEA Bodybuilding Championships (6 categories) and the 50th Golden Anniversary Championships and Classic Bodybuilding plus the WORLD INVITATIONAL OPEN BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIPS with a prize money of US$10,000.- will take place in PATTAYA, the world-renowned beach town for its beautiful beaches, paradise islands, amazing attractions, pubs and nightclubs, world-class sport facilities, and international cuisine restaurants.
The pre-judging and finals of the competition will be held in the ALANGKARN THEATRE, one of the most beautiful theatre in the world. Click www..alangkarnthailand.com to view the beauty of the theatre.
PHOTO FROM LEFT:
Mr. Suttikorn Jearpaitoon, Managing Director of Unique & Fun Organizer Co. Ltd.(the owner of Alangkarn theatre), Mayor of Pattaya City, H.E. Itthiphol Kunplome receiving the ABBF PRESIDENT'S GOLD MEDAL from Datuk Paul Chua, Secretary-General of ABBF. Ms. Christina Kam, Executive Director of ABBF and Mr. Sugree Supawarikul, Secretary-General of Thailand Bodybuilding Association & Vice-President of ABBF were present during this occasion
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WFF-WBBF Headquarters Int Wrote:WFF secretary service Wrote:WFF-WBBF Headquarters Int Wrote:No secret, that IFBB has split in 2009 and today we have two International IFBB organizations.
Today we received a letter from Singapore.
National Olympic Committees of Asia support the IFBB International Event in Thailand, that will be organized without having bad reputation RAFAEL SANTONJA this time:
The former Vice President IFBB-International PAUL CHUA wrote:
On Tue, 2/6/09, CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
PHOTO TAKEN WITH THE THAI OLYMPIC COMMITTEE.
COURTESY CALL TO THE OFFICE OF THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE OF THAILAND
Datuk Paul Chua. ABBF Secretary-General made a courtesy call to thank the President of the National Olympic Committee of Thailand, General Yuthasak Sasiprha for accepting the position of Advisor to the Multi- Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Championships which will take place from 14 - 19 October, 2009 in Pattaya City, Thailand. Datuk Chua made a presentation of the ABBF GOLD MEDAL on behalf of President Osama Alshafar to the President of the NOC.
Asia Support PAUL CHUA and welcomes International delegations to Thailand (this time again without having bad reputation RAFAEL SANTONJA):
On Tue, 2/6/09, CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
CAPTION:
THE MAYOR OF PATTAYA CITY, H.E. MR. ITTHIPHOL KUNPLOME WARMLY WELCOMES DATUK PAUL CHUA, ABBF SECRETARY-GENERAL.IN HIS OFFICE ON 26TH MAY, 2009.
TEXT:
From 14 - 19 October, 2009 the Asian Women's Bodybuilding, Fitness, Bodyfitness, Men's Fitness, Asian Jr. and Masters Bodybuilding, 10th SEA Bodybuilding Championships (6 categories) and the 50th Golden Anniversary Championships and Classic Bodybuilding plus the WORLD INVITATIONAL OPEN BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIPS with a prize money of US$10,000.- will take place in PATTAYA, the world-renowned beach town for its beautiful beaches, paradise islands, amazing attractions, pubs and nightclubs, world-class sport facilities, and international cuisine restaurants.
The pre-judging and finals of the competition will be held in the ALANGKARN THEATRE, one of the most beautiful theatre in the world. Click www..alangkarnthailand.com to view the beauty of the theatre.
PHOTO FROM LEFT:
Mr. Suttikorn Jearpaitoon, Managing Director of Unique & Fun Organizer Co. Ltd.(the owner of Alangkarn theatre), Mayor of Pattaya City, H.E. Itthiphol Kunplome receiving the ABBF PRESIDENT'S GOLD MEDAL from Datuk Paul Chua, Secretary-General of ABBF. Ms. Christina Kam, Executive Director of ABBF and Mr. Sugree Supawarikul, Secretary-General of Thailand Bodybuilding Association & Vice-President of ABBF were present during this occasion
PAUL CHUA starts working!
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Today we received one more letter from Singapore.
Vice President IFBB PAUL CHUA sends a letter from IFBB Thailand, addressing RAFAEL SANTONJA again the questions he does not like:
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Fw: MR. SANTONJA...THAILAND QUESTIONING YOU, PLEASE ANSWER
To: vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es
Date: Friday, 5 June, 2009, 10:53 AM
On Fri, 5/6/09, Sugree Supawarikul <seabbf@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Sugree Supawarikul <seabbf@yahoo.com>
Subject: MR. SANTONJA...THAILAND QUESTIONING YOU, PLEASE ANSWER
To: "Dr. Rafael SANTONJA" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: "PAUL CHUA" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "Douglas Latchford" <skanda@loxinfo.co.th>, "ALSHAFAR" <osama@alshafar.ae>
Date: Friday, 5 June, 2009, 12:03 AM
Dear Rafael
I sent you an email on 28th May, 2009. You are not answering them. WHY?
We have a committee meeting this coming Sunday 7 JUNE, 2009 and including a Press Conference. Can you please be man enough to reply to the email shown below.
I thank you in advance
Sugree Suprawakil
General-Secretary - Thailand Bodybuilding Association
Secretary-General - East Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation
Vice-President, Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation
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WFF-WBBF Headquarters Int Wrote:Today we received one more letter from Singapore.
Vice President IFBB PAUL CHUA sends a letter from IFBB Thailand, addressing RAFAEL SANTONJA again the questions he does not like:
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Fw: MR. SANTONJA...THAILAND QUESTIONING YOU, PLEASE ANSWER
To: vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health.gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es
Date: Friday, 5 June, 2009, 10:53 AM
On Fri, 5/6/09, Sugree Supawarikul <seabbf@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Sugree Supawarikul <seabbf@yahoo.com>
Subject: MR. SANTONJA...THAILAND QUESTIONING YOU, PLEASE ANSWER
To: "Dr. Rafael SANTONJA" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: "PAUL CHUA" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "Douglas Latchford" <skanda@loxinfo.co.th>, "ALSHAFAR" <osama@alshafar.ae>
Date: Friday, 5 June, 2009, 12:03 AM
Dear Rafael
I sent you an email on 28th May, 2009. You are not answering them. WHY?
We have a committee meeting this coming Sunday 7 JUNE, 2009 and including a Press Conference. Can you please be man enough to reply to the email shown below.
I thank you in advance
Sugree Suprawakil
General-Secretary - Thailand Bodybuilding Association
Secretary-General - East Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation
Vice-President, Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation
From: seabbf@yahoo.com <seabbf@yahoo.com>
Subject: MR. SANTONJA...THAILAND QUESTIONING YOU, PLEASE ANSWER
To: "Dr. Rafael SANTONJA" <internacional@santonja.com>
Cc: "PAUL CHUA" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>, "Douglas Latchford" <skanda@loxinfo.co.th>, "ALSHAFAR" <osama@alshafar.ae>
Date: Thursday, 28 May, 2009, 12:39 AM
Dear Mr. Santonja,
We have not failed paying the IFBB our affiliation fees and we have the legal rights to ask these questions.
My President and Committee members have asked me to ask you the following questions and I hope that you will respond immediately.
1. WHO AUTHORISED YOU TO SIGN THE JOINT DECLARATION WITH THE LATE DR. BEN WEIDER?
2. WHY WE (ALL MEMBER NATIONS OF THE IFBB) WERE NOT INFORMED OF THIS JOINT DECLARATION IN THE YEARS 2006, 2007 AND 2008 CONGRESSES?
3. HOW MUCH MONEY YOU RECEIVED FROM DR. BEN WEIDER OR THE IFBB INCORPORATION AND DID YOU BANK THE MONEY DIRECTLY TO THE IFBB ACCOUNT IN SPAIN? WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS NO IFBB EXISTING IN SPAIN?
4. WHY ARE YOU CONCEALING (HIDING) THE PAYMENT QUESTIONS WHEN MR. AXEL BAUER, PRESIDENT OF THE AUSTRIAN BODYBUILDING AND FITNESS FEDERATION QUESTIONING YOU? WE READ ALL HIS EMAILS AND IN OUR OPINION THEY ARE LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS, WHY CAN'T YOU ANSWER THEM INSTEAD OF APPLYING SUSPENSION AND TRYING TO KEEP HIM GAGGED.
Your reply to the above will be greatly appreciated and I am sending this to all members of the ABBF and IFBB.
We hope that you will answer them.
Thank you
Sugree Suprawakil
General-Secretary - Thailand Bodybuilding Association
Vice-President - Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation
Secretary-General - East Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness Fed.
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Today we received one more letter form on RAFAEL SANTONJA‘S affairs:
On Fri, 5/6/09, Dangsina Moeloek <m.dangsina@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Dangsina Moeloek <m.dangsina@yahoo.com>
Subject: Why you hide Mr President
To: "Rafael Santonja" <international@santonja.com>
Cc: "Alshafar UAE" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Chua Paul" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Friday, 5 June, 2009, 12:13 PM
Dear Dr. Santonja,
I read all emails and especially the one sent by Mr. Sugree Suprawakul, General-Secretary of the Thailand Bodybuilding Association today.
Being a professional gentleman and being the President of the "IFBB" (which in truth does not exist), you must pluck the courtesy, decency and politeness to reply all emails which are sent to you.
You are ducking all the shots and instead you seem to guide your Actor General Secretary William Tierney to write all the letters and ask questions and threaten people and associations.
ABBF was founded 50 years ago by Sri Lanka, Pakistan, India, Mynamar, Thailand and Malaysia and you and your Senior Officers are trying to erase this foundation from the history of bodybuilding. This will not work please do not underestimate the Asians and all other sports loving people in the world including Europeans, South Americans and Africans, they know for sure what is going on but some of them fear to speak up. Time will tell for sure Dr. Santonja.
ABBF is led by an able President Mr. Osama Alshafar and he will not tolerate all your nonsense. Mr. Axel Bauer is another perfect, honest and decent gentleman, and he exposed all the games of the "IFBB" in Spain to the world.
I heard that you are now plotting to get rid of the Austrian federation, is this the way for a International President to act and behave?
Why can't you sit and talk and face the facts?
Why are you so adamant and ruthless?
I will speak to Mr. Osama and Datuk Chua to invite you to the ABBF Congress in Tehran, Iran this coming August 2009. Will you come, please let me know so that I can arrange for you to speak in the presence of all the Asian members at the Congress with QUESTION & ANSWERS sessions. We will also invite Mr. Axel Bauer to be fair to him for his opinion to be heard since we are living in a democratic world and not in the jungle.
Dr. Dangsina Moeloek
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From: Sugree Supawarikul <seabbf@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: IFBB THREATS BY WILLIAM TIERNERY AND HIS BOSS RAFAEL SANTONJA
To: abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg
Cc: "Douglas Latchford" <skanda@loxinfo.co.th>
Date: Sunday, 7 June, 2009, 12:26 AM
Dear ABBF Members,
The Thailand Bodybuilding Association wish to register its great disappointment with the barbaric and uncouth behaviour of the so called "ifbb" officers.
We are members of ABBF and we recognise its existence and we are organising the Asian Championships and an International Invitational Competition to celebrate the 50th Anniversary founding of this great continental federation.
The IFBB is trying to dictate terms and harassing us, and we will not bow to their threats.
They refuse to reply all our emails and they have the audacity to write to us and warn us. This is ridiculous and unimaginable...
William Tierney and his boss Rafael Santonja together with his JUNIOR officers are picking on everyone and this is no good for Bodybuilding's image. You ask question, you get either suspended or expelled. Where is DEMOCRACY in the so called "ifbb".
THAILAND will not give way to their threats and intimidation's....we will not give way to the IFBB because they are hiding and playing dirty tactics to destroy the Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation. Come what may we will fight and see that justice is done.
We will be writing a strong letter to IOC, OCA, GAISF and IWGF about the behaviour of IFBB and their junior officers. They have no right to control us from promoting the sport, we obtained this sanction from the continental federation which is the ABBF and they are recognised by the Olympic Council of Asia.
We PROTEST strongly this kind of bullying tactics by the so called "ifbb" and their puppets.
Sugree Suprawakul
General-Secretary- Thailand Bodybuilding Association
Secretary-General, South East Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation
Vice-President, Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation
c.c. Sir Douglas Latchford, President TBBA
Note: Datuk Paul Chua, kindly send this email to all members of the ABBF as well to all the IFBB members because Rafael Santonja and William Tierney are going over board and they must be stopped for their tyranny behaviour.
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ifbbpro Wrote:From: Sugree Supawarikul <seabbf@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: IFBB THREATS BY WILLIAM TIERNERY AND HIS BOSS RAFAEL SANTONJA
To: abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg
Cc: "Douglas Latchford" <skanda@loxinfo.co.th>
Date: Sunday, 7 June, 2009, 12:26 AM
Dear ABBF Members,
The Thailand Bodybuilding Association wish to register its great disappointment with the barbaric and uncouth behaviour of the so called "ifbb" officers.
We are members of ABBF and we recognise its existence and we are organising the Asian Championships and an International Invitational Competition to celebrate the 50th Anniversary founding of this great continental federation.
The IFBB is trying to dictate terms and harassing us, and we will not bow to their threats.
They refuse to reply all our emails and they have the audacity to write to us and warn us. This is ridiculous and unimaginable...
William Tierney and his boss Rafael Santonja together with his JUNIOR officers are picking on everyone and this is no good for Bodybuilding's image. You ask question, you get either suspended or expelled. Where is DEMOCRACY in the so called "ifbb".
THAILAND will not give way to their threats and intimidation's....we will not give way to the IFBB because they are hiding and playing dirty tactics to destroy the Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation. Come what may we will fight and see that justice is done.
We will be writing a strong letter to IOC, OCA, GAISF and IWGF about the behaviour of IFBB and their junior officers. They have no right to control us from promoting the sport, we obtained this sanction from the continental federation which is the ABBF and they are recognised by the Olympic Council of Asia.
We PROTEST strongly this kind of bullying tactics by the so called "ifbb" and their puppets.
Sugree Suprawakul
General-Secretary- Thailand Bodybuilding Association
Secretary-General, South East Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation
Vice-President, Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation
c.c. Sir Douglas Latchford, President TBBA
Note: Datuk Paul Chua, kindly send this email to all members of the ABBF as well to all the IFBB members because Rafael Santonja and William Tierney are going over board and they must be stopped for their tyranny behaviour.
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WFF-WBBF starts working on the 31-st Issue of the International Magazine “Sport of Fitness and Bodybuilding”.
You know that this magazine is printed in English, Russian and Lithuanian and it is spread in 90 countries that are members of the WFF-WBBF International.
At the same time the magazine is spread during the World’s most important International Events.
The Head Article will give much official information about various federations, especially latest information about the IFBB corporation.
Chairman WFF-WBBF International Judges Council
Secretary General WFF-WBBF Lithuania
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Edita Sendriene Wrote:WFF-WBBF starts working on the 31-st Issue of the International Magazine “Sport of Fitness and Bodybuilding”.
You know that this magazine is printed in English, Russian and Lithuanian and it is spread in 90 countries that are members of the WFF-WBBF International.
At the same time the magazine is spread during the World’s most important International Events.
The Head Article will give much official information about various federations, especially latest information about the IFBB corporation.
that magazine will be something... :evil:
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Today we received one more letter from Paul Chua to publish in the forum:
From: Dangsina Moeloek <m.dangsina@yahoo.com>
Subject: Respons
To: "Rafael Santonja" <international@santonja.com>
Cc: "Alshafar UAE" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Chua Paul" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Thursday, 11 June, 2009, 3:45 PM
On Thu, 11/6/09, Dangsina Moeloek <m.dangsina@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Rafael,
This is disgraceful and shameful that you are keeping quiet and supporting competitions which are tainted with drugs. Remember you are a member of WADA. At the same time you pick fault against Mr. Paul Chua saying that he concealed the doping results of the 2005 and reduced the suspension of the 3 athletes from Hongkong from 2 years to 1 year. The IFBB supported the reductions and YOU are definitely aware of this. Since you do not see eye-to-eye with Mr. Chua you have now conveniently taken the warpath to attack him. You are not a gentleman RAFAEL.
Never have I seen a man claiming to be a President ignorning all the emails.
You are scared and hiding. I look forward to your reply about my offer for you to be in Tehran, Iran to address the ABBF Congress with Question and Answers. I spoke to ABBF Officials and they are ready to take you on. Come on Rafael if you are honest and a true gentleman - PLEASE ACCEPT THIS OFFER.
Dr. Dangsina Moeloek
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David Wrote:Edita Sendriene Wrote:WFF-WBBF starts working on the 31-st Issue of the International Magazine “Sport of Fitness and Bodybuilding”.
You know that this magazine is printed in English, Russian and Lithuanian and it is spread in 90 countries that are members of the WFF-WBBF International.
At the same time the magazine is spread during the World’s most important International Events.
The Head Article will give much official information about various federations, especially latest information about the IFBB corporation.
that magazine will be something... :evil:
i use to get the mags from estonia nad always read them thoroughly :idea:
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Today we received one more letter concerning IFBB, WADA and Australia:
From: ifbbeurope@yahoo.com <ifbbeurope@yahoo.com>
Subject: NPC OF AUSTRALIA MEMBER OF THE IFBB
To: abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg, internacional@santonja.com
Cc: efbb@tedata..net.eg, ehderose@terra.com.br, "Hitoshi Tamari" <mkymiyao@yahoo.co.jp>, ifbbcaribbean@msn.com, ifbbmauritius@yahoo.com, info@wada-ama.org, info@wff.lt, interbody@home.pl, jeffschucroft@gmail.com, juliettebergmann@planet.nl, kp.ourama@kpfitness.fi, lawfirm.bauer@chello.at, osama@alshafar.ae, p.filleborn@neostrada.pl, pcgraham@ozemail.com.au, pkagan@ifbbprofessionalleague.com, prof.beuker@t-online.de, rechtsanwaltskanzlei.bauer@chello.at, sekretariat@skfcr.cz, smishek@sasktel.net, tamas.ajan@iwfnet.net, tzolamedee@yahoo.fr, ulf.bjoernfot@telia.com, wanda.tierney@ukonline.co.uk, ysgouros@weightlifting.gr
Date: Thursday, 11 June, 2009, 9:52 PM
Dear Mr. Chua
This is very interesting news for you.
The NPC in Australia is not enrolled in the country's national drug testing programme (as all credible amateur sports are), nor is it affiliated to, or recognized by the AOC (Australian Olympic Committee). There has never been annual elections, or disclosure regards annual accounts.
The NPC is wholly owned by Paul and Carol Graham and I believe his daughter and son are also involved.
They do not conform to WADA rules. Will the IFBB suspend this federation for not following the WADA rules?????
Please ask Rafael to give answers to these questions. We will provide you more ammunition. Pena sympathize with you Mr. Chua, she knows what is going on and if you need her help, please let me know. I can speak to her.
Sincerely
Victor Mendis
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FALSE DOCUMENTS
Today we received a letter from the main IFBB financial officer.
He accuses RAFAEL SANTONJA with falsification of the documents:
From: Fair Play <ifbbeurope@yahoo.com>
Subject: MINUTES PREPARED BY PAMELA ???
To: vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health..gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es
Fair Play <ifbbeurope@yahoo.com> wrote:
THIS IS THE MINUTES PREPARED BY PAMELA KAGAN.
RAFAEL DID NOT UTTER A SINGLE WORD AGAINST THIS MINUTE BECAUSE ALL THE MONIES WERE TRANSFERRED TO HIM.
THE BIGGEST FOOL WAS PAUL CHUA BECAUSE HE WAS NOT AWARE THAT HIS NAME WAS USED NOR HE WAS AWARE OF ALL THESE TRANSACTIONS?
WAKE UP CHUA??????
THIS IS FORGERY AND PAMELA IS ANSWERABLE TOGETHER WITH RAFAEL.
ALL OF US WERE CONNED/CHEATED AND TAKEN FOR A RIDE............
I WILL BE ATTENDING THE MEETINGS OF THE EUROPEAN CONGRESS.
THIS MONTH..
I WILL ASK QUESTIONS AND I EXPECT ANSWERS ???
VICTOR
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WFF secretary service Wrote:FALSE DOCUMENTS
Today we received a letter from the main IFBB financial officer.
He accuses RAFAEL SANTONJA with falsification of the documents:
From: Fair Play <ifbbeurope@yahoo.com>
Subject: MINUTES PREPARED BY PAMELA ???
To: vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, jfinzi@finspor.com.tr, praesident@ifbb.ch, malih@terra.net.lb, MAbdulla1@health..gov.bh, fenafh04@yahoo.es
Fair Play <ifbbeurope@yahoo.com> wrote:
THIS IS THE MINUTES PREPARED BY PAMELA KAGAN.
RAFAEL DID NOT UTTER A SINGLE WORD AGAINST THIS MINUTE BECAUSE ALL THE MONIES WERE TRANSFERRED TO HIM.
THE BIGGEST FOOL WAS PAUL CHUA BECAUSE HE WAS NOT AWARE THAT HIS NAME WAS USED NOR HE WAS AWARE OF ALL THESE TRANSACTIONS?
WAKE UP CHUA??????
THIS IS FORGERY AND PAMELA IS ANSWERABLE TOGETHER WITH RAFAEL.
ALL OF US WERE CONNED/CHEATED AND TAKEN FOR A RIDE............
I WILL BE ATTENDING THE MEETINGS OF THE EUROPEAN CONGRESS.
THIS MONTH..
I WILL ASK QUESTIONS AND I EXPECT ANSWERS ???
VICTOR
WFF-International Official Information Only
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IFBB FAMILY BUSINESS
For years IFBB corporation – federation was owned and rulled by their private owners BEN and ERIC WEIDER.
Now old traditions are alive even in a lower level.
Today we received one more letter from PAUL CHUA (Singapore) to publish in the forum:
From: Mohamed Haleem <haleem@gmail.com>
Subject: Are you choosing IFBB turn into a marriage counseling service?.
To: stanislav.pesat@pepasport.cz, j.zigrai@quick.cz, aon.912456590@aon.at, vajdova@markiza.sk, cernotaJ@seznam.cz, wwp@seznam.cz, zdeneksedmik@seznam..cz, elcoach2010@yahoo.com, peterek.michal@centrum.cz, ott@kulturism.ee, lukasosladil-ifbb@volny.cz, andrej.mozolani@orangemail.sk, viktoska@seznam.cz, jkubik@tiscali.cz, tazmann@quick.cz, Hanak.Mirek@seznam.cz, kontakt@musclegym.de, universal.gym@tiscali.cz, wiltavsky@hbtisk.cz, maradek@quick.cz, mach@narwall.cz, vojtovic@interier.com, bohumir.vojtovic@opava.cz, georgvisny@tiscali.ch, f.vincourek@tiscali.cz, rcernoskova@bvv.cz, pnavratil@bvv.cz, vehovsky@jaka-invest.cz, vagner@kwk.cz, bretislav.tuma@ferram.cz, m.triska@interier.com, m_tichy@sendme.cz, ivana.bednarikova@czech-tv.cz, jaromir.bosak@czech-tv.cz, rostislav.sumbera@ceskatelevize.cz, m.srubar@centrum.cz, PSedenka@seznam.cz, julius.safr@volny.cz, syrovatko@syner.cz, eva..sukupova@seznam.cz, kuruc@akkh.cz, S.Pesat@seznam.cz, skramlik@totalsport.cz, R.Sklar@seznam.cz, rehacek@reemtsma.cz, to=profitala@tiscali.cz, zorves@post.cz, cardio-kt@comp.cz, zdenek.saman@vasbo.cz
Cc: "Paul Chua" <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Date: Monday, 15 June, 2009, 11:23 PM
On Mon, 15/6/09, Mohamed Haleem <haleem@gmail.com> wrote:
ARE YOU CHOOSING IFBB TURN INTO A MARRIAGE COUNSELING SERVICE?
Dear Rafael
This is Haleem of the Maldives again.
It's sad to see that you have still not replied to any of my emails.
The case between the ABBF and the IFBB came up recently while I was having a discussion with some of my colleagues who are also involved in promoting sport in Asia. I told them how you suspended the ABBF for no apparent reason and set up a 'Commission' for Asia. They agree that this a great insult to all Asians. Did you expect to step on the tigers tail and walk away unscathed? All this could have been avoided if you hadn't taken your rash and hasty decisions.
They laughed when I showed them the IFBB stationery. When I asked them why, they replied that they had not seen a husband and wife get appointed as members of an Executive Committee in any other Federation. Wouldn't they have two votes? I am ofcourse referring to William Tierney and his wife Wanda, and Paul Graham and Carol. This is indeed ridiculous. There are many intelligent and important officials from several countries who could contribute greatly to this sport and you choose to turn it into a marriage counseling service.
Can you please explain yourself?
Mohamed Haleem
Founder and Hon President Bodybuilding Federation of Maldives (BBFM)
Executive Vice-President South Asian Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation
Maldives
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Edita Sendriene Wrote:WFF-WBBF starts working on the 31-st Issue of the International Magazine “Sport of Fitness and Bodybuilding”.
You know that this magazine is printed in English, Russian and Lithuanian and it is spread in 90 countries that are members of the WFF-WBBF International.
At the same time the magazine is spread during the World’s most important International Events.
The Head Article will give much official information about various federations, especially latest information about the IFBB corporation.
that will be great!
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Eva Wrote:Edita Sendriene Wrote:WFF-WBBF starts working on the 31-st Issue of the International Magazine “Sport of Fitness and Bodybuilding”.
You know that this magazine is printed in English, Russian and Lithuanian and it is spread in 90 countries that are members of the WFF-WBBF International.
At the same time the magazine is spread during the World’s most important International Events.
The Head Article will give much official information about various federations, especially latest information about the IFBB corporation.
that will be great!
nobody else does it...
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Today we received one more letter from Singapore.
Vice President IFBB PAUL CHUA asks to publish the materials in internet:
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: SURESH PAI'S MEDIA COMMISSION OFFICER OF IFBB???
To: "ABBF ADM" <abbf.adm@hotmail.com>, "Rajesh Babu Nepal Shrestha" <rajesh@chitawoncoe.com>
Date: Saturday, 27 June, 2009, 12:46 PM
Dear Mr. Rajesh,
Suresh Pai of India is harping on WADA rules etc. why don't he ask the IFBB or he answer us the following questions:
1. The cover up of Kamal of Qatar for doping offences committed twice, he should have been banned for life. The IFBB reduced the two athletes' suspensions from 2 years to 8 months and received a sum of US$20,000.- to settle the issue. Rafael was the Executive Asst. to the IFBB President at that time. By allowing Kamal to participate in competitions while serving his suspension and till today no action was taken. WHY?
2. The FORGING OF DOPING DOCUMENTS by the Qatar W/Lifting and Bodybuilding Federation which is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE under the law and the IFBB under Rafael forgave them by lifting their suspension and gave recognition and directing them to form a special commission against the legally recognised ABBF by the Olympic Council of Asia. The lifting of the suspension is against the WADA rules. We have all the documents to show proof from the Penang Lab. in Malaysia. The IFBB does not keep their record for doping.. Ask them to send us all the doping documents for the past 10 years and we will know the TRUTH. They are scared to death to reveal all these to us. They are HIDING all doping matters .
3. The covering up of the doping offence of Jose from Brazil who was tested positive in the 2008 World Championships. IFBB President Rafael and the Doping Committee by mistake sent to me a copy of their email where they were conspiring to assist this athlete. They were exposed in nude and were put on shame. Nobody will trust them anymore on doping matters, only GOD knows how many cases they have cheated in the past.
4. No doping tests were conducted in the Arab Championships and two of the athletes were rushed to hospital last week when they collapsed on the stage witnessed by the audience and by Rafael and Adel Fahim. The IFBB President condoning such competitions. They are talking rubbish and nonsense about WADA taking action against me? What action? I am walking tall everyday.
5. Why the IFBB President is not answering all the emails about the IFBB accounts and the non- existence of the so called IFBB in Spain. We have a complete report against this bogus organisation submitted by a Private Investigator. An account was GARNISHED by the Court!!!
6. Why all their payments was settled by Rafael Santonja's company and not by the IFBB
7. Why IFBB President did not disclose the "joint declaration" signed by him and the late Ben Weider to the IFBB Congress in Ostrava in 2006, Jeju in 2007 and Manama in 2008? Why he is concealing this transaction;
8. Why the Executive Director of the IFBB Ms.. Pamela Kagan committed a forgery by including my name in the minutes when I was not present; The name of Rafael was also included but he is not objecting.
9. Why up till today there is no HEARING fixed over our suspensions? They fear that we will ask questions and they have no answers; We are represented by DLA PIPER in England which is one of the most well respected legal firm in the world. We are proceeding with our legal action and will not let them go easily. There is NO DEMOCRACY in the IFBB, democracy is dead in the IFBB.
10. Why they have no guts to come for an open debate at our ABBF Congress ? They know that we will expose their dirty games.
We have many more questions but I thought that the above will suffice. The man Suresh PAI was punched in the stomach by the former President of the ABBF when he was drunk and arguing in the suite room at New Delhi in 1996 and witnessed by several people. Suresh PAI is now claiming to be a member of media commission of the IFBB ....this is a JOKE. We will extend an invitation to Pai to our ABBF Congress and explain to him on constitutional matters. He need to know about Article 20.1 of the IFBB Constitution about his President's absolute power.
Brotherly regards,
Paul Chua
Secretary-General - ABBF
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